Animal Sacrifices allowed or not ?

In both Mahabharatha and Bhagavatham , and in some other sastras like Manudharma, there are discussions on animal Sacrifice and meat eating

All these scriptures agree on one point viz., " Killing animals  is not a sin in sacrifice. Otherwise a great sin."

 But still, we can find some statements against even animal Sacrifices which is not considered as sin.

 The question that arises here is that if animal Sacrifices are sanctioned by scriptures, then why there are conflicting statements which oppose animal Sacrifices ?

 

statements which sanction animal Sacrifices 

 https://sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07064.htm

 Of rigid vows and always engaged in due performance of sacrifices, countless animals, desirous of going to heaven, used to come to him of their own accord. 2 So large was the number of animals sacrificed in the Agnihotra of that king that the secretions flowing from his kitchen from the heaps of skins deposited there caused a veritable river which from this circumstance, came to be called the Charmanwati.

https://sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07064.htm

The sacred fire is fond of animal food,' this saying has come down to us. And at sacrifices animals are invariably killed by regenerate Brahmanas, and these animals being purged of sin, by incantation of hymns, go to heaven. If, O Brahmana, the sacred fire had not been so fond of animal food in ancient times, it could never have become the food of any one

ŚB 6.4.9,  ŚB 10.69.35,  ŚB 10.58.15-16

 

 https://sacred-texts.com/hin/m01/m01229.htm

    "Then those foremost of car-warriors (Krishna and Arjuna), riding in their cars and placing themselves on opposite sides of that forest, began a great slaughter, on all sides, of the creatures dwelling in Khandava"

    "The birds that took wings to escape from that conflagration were pierced by Arjuna with his shafts, and cut into pieces, they fell down into the burning element below. Pierced all over with Arjuna's shafts, the birds dropped down into the burning forest, uttering loud cries."

 https://www.wisdomlib.org/hinduism/book/the-mahabharata-mohan/d/doc826441.html

The audition is heard that animals were created for sacrifice. They who eat flesh in any other way are said to follow the Rakshasa practice.

 Bhishma said, Listen to me as I tell you what the ordinance is that has been laid down for the Kshatriyas. They do not incur any fault by eating flesh that has been acquired by expenditure of prowess. All deer of the wilderness were dedicated to the deities and the Pitris in days of old, O king, by Agastya. Hence, the hunting of deer is not censured.

 

statements which oppose animal Sacrifices

 https://sacred-texts.com/hin/m12/m12b092.htm

 Wine, fish, honey, meat, alcohol, and preparations of rice and sesame seeds, have been introduced by knaves. The use of these (in sacrifices) is not laid down in the Vedas. The hankering after these arises from pride, error of judgment, and cupidity. They that are true Brahmanas realise the presence of Vishnu in every sacrifice. His worship, it has been laid down, should be made with agreeable Payasa.

https://sacred-texts.com/hin/m12/m12c037.htm

The Rishis said, The opinion entertained by us, O king, is that sacrifices should be performed with grain. The deities, however, maintain that sacrifices should be performed with animals. Do thou judge between us and tell us which of these opinions is correct.'

"Bhishma continued, 'Learning what the opinion was that was entertained by the deities, Vasu, moved by partiality for them, said that sacrifices should be performed with animals. At this answer, all the Rishis, endued with the splendour of the Sun, became very angry. Addressing Vasu who was seated on his car and who had (wrongly) taken up the side of the deities, they said unto him,--Since thou hast (wrongly) taken up the side of the deities, do thou fall down from heaven.

And those hardcore hindutwa vadis who argue that vedas or scriptures didn't sanction  meateating . They argue that verses were mistranslated.

They also say that some britishers polluted and twisted the scriptures with interpolations and mistranslations.

 

Note : Only persons with good knowledge of scriptures are welcome. Quoating with references is appreciated.

 This question is not for brainwashers who do not show any references.

 

Thank you

 

 

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                    • glad to see your reply, that is because i thought perhaps you died of shame after reading my replies.

                      Krishna surely is great for he sustains evil beings like you too.

                      Mother earth too is great for she bears the burden of a terrible beast like you.

                      BTW you have said "i gave hard thumpings" to whom if i may ask?

                      if you are thinking about your last silly reply to me then what more can i say --you are too conceited and really really foolish..

                    • Seems I gave hard thumpings. 

                      But, the truth that I was unable to make you vomit the truth hurts me. Your wicked ego makes it very tough.

                      You cunning fellow speaking about true siddhanta . Waffling , word jugglery,  intimidating ,insolence is your siddhanta. 

                      Go, save face , run away like a jackal.

                    • Seems like i hit a nerve there.

                      Don't worry,it's by default that truth hurts to people like you.

                      Just follow true siddhanta and even you may find peace.

                    • just might be that i don't want to answer to stupidity personified

                      So, why did you not shut your stinking evil mouth ?

                      What makes you think that I am stupidity personified ? What makes you think that I am omnicient imbecile with garbage in my brain ? Is it your wicked skull filled with scrap though it dreams itself to be omniscient ?

                      Do u really think it requires omniscience to assess the attitude of nuts like you, whose brain is filled with mud.?

                      An answer is not deserved for some nonsensical ramblings of an idiots.

                       Who is rambling ? Who is not coming to the point ? Did I ever talk without any reference. Do you ever comeup with single reference ? Did I ever beat around the bush. Did you ever try to be straightforward ? Your wicked skull dreams that word jugglery and beating around bush is the best thing. It does not think that "if I don't know I should shut up" it thinks " Somehow cover it up by offending or intimidating though I don't have answer" " Somehow make  that questioner  feel that I have serious stuff "

                       "why will i make excuses?i'll simply not reply if i don't know"

                       Bcz, you don't come to the point and you try to intimidate by offending the questioner by pretending to give your crap education .by using the words like housefly.

                      In addition you claim that i know that i am the actual rambler!!. I know nothing of this ...oh omniscient I I imbecile

                       I know that you don't know, you devil. Bcz, How can a thief think himself to be a thief ? 

                        Again don't think that I am thinking myself to be an omnicient person to assess a nut like you.

                      Now you think of  yourself in plural? your senses don't seem in order. 

                       What makes you think that I think myself plural ?  We , mean straightforward fellows like me , you dull headed one.

                      Nobody is useless my friend/enemy. e.g you too could be useful as a punching bag.isn't it?

                       You too , So , it seems that you felt very bad that I said you are useless. So you want to clarify that "I am not useless and I am very much in use as a punchbag." But , do u think that everybody  likes it like you, you poor perverted fellow...But if you dare to offend me again, I may consider to use you like a punchbag though I don't want it.  . Become a punchbag for others if you love it so much..

                      Some devotees tried to answer me. But they didn't think they are putting some sense into my incorrigible mind. Bcz they are not arrogant fellows like you. They do not offend like you. Even that Bharat is not so bad like you.

                       Who is in mode of ignorance ? Who is cheater ? Those who disapprove the praise of devils ?  Those who disapprove cow killers ? Genociders ? Or who praise them ? You shameless one . If you have least honor come to the point now  instead of your crap education like this 

                      your tendency of fault finding is deplorable.Firstly you are exemplifying the characters of housefly rather than a saragrahi honeybees.  Moreover your housefly behavior is also illusioned as there is no rubbish to sit on.

                        What a beautiful lesson !! Then, why your tendency of faultfinding with mayavadis is not deplorable !? Y do you sit on the rubbish of mayavadi like a housefly rather than sucking honey like a honeybee just like you suck honey out of the evil book quran and suck honey out of muhammad's crap teachings by making him saktyavesa avatar ?

                      So, these teachings r for dumping on others 

                      Stooped in mode of  ignorance., Dveshi, cheater.

                        Sodisapproving  nonvedic, cruel,  evil fellows and nuts like you  is  mode of  ignorance., Dveshi, cheater. 

                       Then what is mode of goodness according to your evil brain ? " Murmuring Mayavadi,.. mayavadi like this  dozen times a day ? and approving cow killing cult as authentic religion  ?

                      What cheating, you shameless rogue ?  Did I ever try to lie ? I akways gave clear references. I was always open and straiforward.  Did you ever come up with a references ? Who is cheater, evil wretch. 

                       Who will go to hell, you pervert ?, truth speakers or cheaters and cunning fellows like you Who praise demons and  beat around the bush.

                        Since you r fully exposed you dare to give your vain threats, you damned devil.

                        

                    • You already know that i don't have  answer?How?

                      It just might be that i don't want to answer to stupidity personified ! it seems you have omniscience power alongwith garbage for brain.

                      In addition you claim that i know that i am the actual rambler!!. I know nothing of this ...oh omniscient imbecile !

                      why will i make excuses?i'll simply not reply if i don't know.

                      "we will question"??  now you think of  yourself in plural? your senses don't seem in order and you are calling me senseless.

                      nobody is useless my friend/enemy. e.g you too could be useful as a punching bag.isn't it?

                    • Sevak

                      Hare Krsna

                      Your hatred, poison and malice are not required here. Offenders of Srila Prabhupada are not allowed here,

                      Please go away and.never return

                      Hare Krsna

                    • An answer is not deserved for some nonsensical ramblings of an idiot.

                       I know that you don't have answer. you fool.  That's why you started barking. You know that you are the actual rambler, you worst fellow.

                       I didn't give any answer because there is not a useful KC question

                         This is an excuse of an ignorant wretch.  If you do your KC, without doing useless glorification of mlechas, no one will question.

                         But if anybody dares, we will question, you useless, senseless fellow.

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          • The Muslim population of the world is twice the Hindu population if not more.

            We know that demons are in huge numbers in the world than godly men. Meat eaters are in greater in numver than vegetarians.

            Even Hitler and genghis khan had huge fan base. Even demons like Ravana had huge fan base.

            Even the evil rulers of kaliyuga and actors who dance like monkeys have somany fools as devotees.

            Shall we start praising them as saktyavesa avatars ?

             

            Do you know the character of muhammad ? He kills men and forcefully marries widows. This is what exactly Ravanasura did.

            You ask muslims if you don't believe. You read the history.

            He is the head of a religion, whose followers know only onething. attack , kill evenif they are children, women. demolish temples.

            Bcz of the atrocities of these muslims, women used to throw themselves into fire to protect their chastity. 

            If sivaji was not there, there would be no one in this world to do Harekrishna bhajan. You better praise sivaji as saktyavesa avatar

            Don't you people have any shame to call such wicked demon muhammad as saktyavesa avatar ?

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              • Yes, Prabhupada committed a grave mistake of praising a demon. If any person has least honesty, he will accept it.

                 All indians and vedic persons will dislike him and condemn him if they know how he praised a pedophile and rapist.

                  Plz read this.

                     https://www.harekrsna.de/artikel/islam.htm

                 

                A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada on ISLAM
                • Sevak

                  Hare  Krsna

                  Not interested in your poison.  We are happy to hear only about Krsna

                  Hare  

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