Animal Sacrifices allowed or not ?

In both Mahabharatha and Bhagavatham , and in some other sastras like Manudharma, there are discussions on animal Sacrifice and meat eating

All these scriptures agree on one point viz., " Killing animals  is not a sin in sacrifice. Otherwise a great sin."

 But still, we can find some statements against even animal Sacrifices which is not considered as sin.

 The question that arises here is that if animal Sacrifices are sanctioned by scriptures, then why there are conflicting statements which oppose animal Sacrifices ?

 

statements which sanction animal Sacrifices 

 https://sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07064.htm

 Of rigid vows and always engaged in due performance of sacrifices, countless animals, desirous of going to heaven, used to come to him of their own accord. 2 So large was the number of animals sacrificed in the Agnihotra of that king that the secretions flowing from his kitchen from the heaps of skins deposited there caused a veritable river which from this circumstance, came to be called the Charmanwati.

https://sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07064.htm

The sacred fire is fond of animal food,' this saying has come down to us. And at sacrifices animals are invariably killed by regenerate Brahmanas, and these animals being purged of sin, by incantation of hymns, go to heaven. If, O Brahmana, the sacred fire had not been so fond of animal food in ancient times, it could never have become the food of any one

ŚB 6.4.9,  ŚB 10.69.35,  ŚB 10.58.15-16

 

 https://sacred-texts.com/hin/m01/m01229.htm

    "Then those foremost of car-warriors (Krishna and Arjuna), riding in their cars and placing themselves on opposite sides of that forest, began a great slaughter, on all sides, of the creatures dwelling in Khandava"

    "The birds that took wings to escape from that conflagration were pierced by Arjuna with his shafts, and cut into pieces, they fell down into the burning element below. Pierced all over with Arjuna's shafts, the birds dropped down into the burning forest, uttering loud cries."

 https://www.wisdomlib.org/hinduism/book/the-mahabharata-mohan/d/doc826441.html

The audition is heard that animals were created for sacrifice. They who eat flesh in any other way are said to follow the Rakshasa practice.

 Bhishma said, Listen to me as I tell you what the ordinance is that has been laid down for the Kshatriyas. They do not incur any fault by eating flesh that has been acquired by expenditure of prowess. All deer of the wilderness were dedicated to the deities and the Pitris in days of old, O king, by Agastya. Hence, the hunting of deer is not censured.

 

statements which oppose animal Sacrifices

 https://sacred-texts.com/hin/m12/m12b092.htm

 Wine, fish, honey, meat, alcohol, and preparations of rice and sesame seeds, have been introduced by knaves. The use of these (in sacrifices) is not laid down in the Vedas. The hankering after these arises from pride, error of judgment, and cupidity. They that are true Brahmanas realise the presence of Vishnu in every sacrifice. His worship, it has been laid down, should be made with agreeable Payasa.

https://sacred-texts.com/hin/m12/m12c037.htm

The Rishis said, The opinion entertained by us, O king, is that sacrifices should be performed with grain. The deities, however, maintain that sacrifices should be performed with animals. Do thou judge between us and tell us which of these opinions is correct.'

"Bhishma continued, 'Learning what the opinion was that was entertained by the deities, Vasu, moved by partiality for them, said that sacrifices should be performed with animals. At this answer, all the Rishis, endued with the splendour of the Sun, became very angry. Addressing Vasu who was seated on his car and who had (wrongly) taken up the side of the deities, they said unto him,--Since thou hast (wrongly) taken up the side of the deities, do thou fall down from heaven.

And those hardcore hindutwa vadis who argue that vedas or scriptures didn't sanction  meateating . They argue that verses were mistranslated.

They also say that some britishers polluted and twisted the scriptures with interpolations and mistranslations.

 

Note : Only persons with good knowledge of scriptures are welcome. Quoating with references is appreciated.

 This question is not for brainwashers who do not show any references.

 

Thank you

 

 

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                • Sevak

                  Hare Krsna

                  I would spit on the face of that shameless man.

                  Nobody doubts your capacity to offend great devotees of Sri Krsna. 

                  Hare Krsna

                • Hare Krishna 

                  You are very irresponsible!

                  Had Prabhupada been like you then we would only have hate stories. 

                  Blessed be the Prophet because he didn't hate like you.

                  But this is the will of Krishna. 

                  Nobody is outside His will. Everyone comes under His will.

                  You try to spit on me instead.

                  Hari Bol 

                   

          • "the fact is that he was deluded"

            That is not a fact but pure fiction.

             

            • First prove that  muhammad was not a pedophile. prove  that he didn't marry a 6 year old child and didn't have sex with her when she was 9 years old.

              prove that " he fought wars only for defence. he didn't marry widows afrer killing their husbands, he didn't encourage sex slavery,

              he didn't encourage demolishing temples, he discouraged cow killing "

              Then we will know whether it is fact  or fiction..

              • Sevak

                Hare Krsna

                First prove that  muhammad was not a pedophile.

                Not required. We can chant hare Krsna, serve Krsna's devotee and achieve Krsna's lotus feet. 

                Hare Krsna

                 

              • your tendency of fault finding is deplorable.Firstly you are exemplifying the characters of housefly rather than a saragrahi honeybee.

                Moreover your housefly behavior is also illusioned as there is no rubbish to sit on.

      • Hare Krsna 

        Lord Krsna is the source of all emanations,  aham sarvasya prabhava..

        The Muslim population of the world is twice the Hindu population if not more. If Prophet Muhammad wasn't specifically empowered from Krsna,  or Saktya-avesa-avatara, it wouldn't have been possible for such large numbers to be created in the first place. Since, everything significant or insignificant in the world emanates from but a spark of Lord Krsna's splendor. 

        A bonafide religion is one according to Prabhupada which has Divinity in the center, the people of the middle east call Him by many names of which God or Allah are one of the names. Christianity is no different, it has the Supreme in the center. So does Islam. These are not pseudo sects, because they believe in a Supreme Controller. This is basic knowledge only and I do not wish to discuss this any further because we are not discussing other religions on this platform. 

        Anyhow,  this is not what disturbs me, it is your lack of faith in Srila Prabhupada. If Prabhupada wasn't especially  specifically empowered from Krsna,  it would have been impossible to make the hippies or yavanas give up meat eating and other nasty habits and join him. It would have been impossible to bring the whole world under the culture of one Krsna consciousness.  

        I feel sorry for you,  with all your scriptural knowledge, what is it worth If you cannot recognize a Mahabhagavata like Prabhupada?

        Hari Bol

          • The Muslim population of the world is twice the Hindu population if not more.

            We know that demons are in huge numbers in the world than godly men. Meat eaters are in greater in numver than vegetarians.

            Even Hitler and genghis khan had huge fan base. Even demons like Ravana had huge fan base.

            Even the evil rulers of kaliyuga and actors who dance like monkeys have somany fools as devotees.

            Shall we start praising them as saktyavesa avatars ?

             

            Do you know the character of muhammad ? He kills men and forcefully marries widows. This is what exactly Ravanasura did.

            You ask muslims if you don't believe. You read the history.

            He is the head of a religion, whose followers know only onething. attack , kill evenif they are children, women. demolish temples.

            Bcz of the atrocities of these muslims, women used to throw themselves into fire to protect their chastity. 

            If sivaji was not there, there would be no one in this world to do Harekrishna bhajan. You better praise sivaji as saktyavesa avatar

            Don't you people have any shame to call such wicked demon muhammad as saktyavesa avatar ?

            • Hare Krsna 

              Firstly,  I'm no one to praise anyone as saktya-avesa-avatara. Meat eaters may be in majority, that is true. This is what we need to discuss considering the topic of discussion and the words of Srila Prabhupada have sealed the discussion regarding meat eating and it's consequences. 

              You want to deviate the discussion to Prophet Muhammad and the Muslims by calling them demons. That is your hatred or your perception. As far as I have read Bhagavatam, Srila Prabhupada has not eulogized Muhammad as a great Vaisnava or acarya. Provide reference before making serious accusations by mixing your own words. The reason Muhammad is empowered because he was chosen to reveal the Quran to a spiritually unprivileged people of the middle east. We respect that they believe in a supreme unseen higher power. That's all. 

              Hari Bol 

              • Yes, Prabhupada committed a grave mistake of praising a demon. If any person has least honesty, he will accept it.

                 All indians and vedic persons will dislike him and condemn him if they know how he praised a pedophile and rapist.

                  Plz read this.

                     https://www.harekrsna.de/artikel/islam.htm

                 

                A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada on ISLAM
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