Hare Krsna Mataji, please forgive me. I wrongly thought you were on my age level, so I felt it was okay to point something out. But it was my mistake. Actually, it was not humility but my own hallucination of knowledge and my ego speaking.
Śrīman Mahāprabhu has instructed us:
tṛṇād api sunīcena taror api sahiṣṇunā, amāninā mānadena kīrtanīyaḥ sadā hariḥ
I could not apply this in my behavior, and instead, I allowed my rigid nature to come forward. This is my avguna (fault). I had harshness and lack of sensitivity.
You have shared your point of view clearly from your heart and I can see clearly how much bhāva is there in your devotion. My mind was clouded by overconfidence, so instead of honoring your emotions and realizations, I questioned and acted foolishly.
Truly, it is I who must learn from you i.e. your sincerity, your natural love, and your way of expressing bhakti, even if it comes with emotion or toṭhālī bhāṣā. What matters is that it is genuine glorification of Śrī Śrī Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa.
Please bless me that I may become free from pride and truly imbibe Mahāprabhu’s instruction of humility. I will try to focus on praising Kṛṣṇa more and correcting myself rather than correcting others. Hari Hari.
Gayatri > Govind SharanSeptember 30, 2025 at 12:06am
No issues. We are in Kaliyuga and it is all Kali Prabhaav. Sometimes we are in bad mood. It reflects on our behavior.
We are all "L" board in Bhakti.
We maybe are well read in books but while implementing in day to day practice is it very tough all these what is told in scriptures.
But implementing part is what we have to learn to become qualified to be called as a devotee also.
Anyhow. Lets end this here and continue our bhakti.
This episode surely made me close to you all.
Thanks for the support given by Gaurav prabhu, Akshit prabhu and Madhava dasa prabhu..
All thanks to Govind Sharan prabhu too because now we have a group of devotee friends here. YAY!!!
Yeah, i would like to be a part of your group. Thank you for your wonderful association. Hari Hari.
Madhava das > Govind SharanSeptember 29, 2025 at 10:06pm
Hare Krsna Govind Sharan Prabhu ji
I think mataji will reply to you soon enough.
There is a saying that " All is well that ends well ". It is actually Napolean Bonaparte who said it but that is not important since also things didn't end too well with him in Waterloo. However, it is a nice saying and I think mataji will also agree :)
I am really glad that you are having a change of heart. This is the real symptom of progress in devotion. I am happy for you. :)
Hari bol
Govind Sharan > Madhava dasSeptember 30, 2025 at 1:25am
Hare Krsna Gayatri Mataji After having stayed away from IDT forum for nearly five days I have come back because I found something in your reply that synchronized somewhat with my reason for staying away. That day when I made my last reply when I said it gives me great pain why this is happening, me and my team observed two unusual happenings. We were conducting periodical testing of the airport grid. Firstly, our communication was hampered over the phone from inside the control room and outside in the yard by these very fast low flying fighter aircraft who were making a thunderous noise. The personnel at the grid told us that they have been doing that since day before yesterday. I thought maybe war is about to happen as they were flying sortie after sortie. A few months earlier there was actually a situation when we were enforcing blackouts because of escalating tensions between India and Pakistan. However, next day we learnt that air force day was around the corner so the pilots could have been practicing for that. Now, this is not that unusual as compared to what we saw next. I made my reply at 1.00 pm and when we were returning back from the airport after approximately half an hour. Our driver noticed something on the broad main road. On slowing down we noticed that a shiny black snake was slithering across the road. We waited for the snake to cross over. I was thinking in my mind that bechare saanp ne badi himmat dikhayi because chances of getting run over by a vehicle were high. I also thought it was a sign from Krsna that perhaps danger is close but I was not exactly sure. Then when I resumed Sri Caitanya-caritamrta from where I had left, I quckly came across this statement in a PURPORT: " The croaking of the frogs in the rainy season resounds very loudly in the forest, with the result that snakes, hearing the croaking in the darkness, approach the frogs and swallow them. " The first thought that came into my mind was that we are all like frogs making noise on the internet and that it is better to stay away as I had decided but I was still not convinced about that until I read your reply and realized that actually something else made more sense. In the previous verse it is stated: " By remembering the lotus feet of the Panca tattva, a dumb man can become a poet, a lame man cross mountains, and a blind man can see the stars in the sky. PURPORT In Vaisnava philosophy there are three ways for perfection- namely sadhana-siddha, nitya-siddha and krpa-siddha. Kaviraja Gosvami here stresses krpa-siddha, perfection by the mercy of superior authorities. THIS MERCY DOES NOT DEPEND ON THE QUALIFICATIONS OF A DEVOTEE. By such mercy, even if a devotee is dumb he can speak or write to glorify the Lord splendidly, even if lame he can cross the mountains, and even if blind he can see the stars in the sky. " It is in context with this understanding that it is said in the next verse that: " The education cultivated by so-called scholars who do not believe these statements of Sri Caitanya-caritamrta is like the tumultous croaking of frogs." In conclusion, I still believe I have not been able to comprehend or explain everything. Actually, I have grown weary of typing so I will end this reply here. Hari bol
Hare Krsna Mata ji, if you are not actually reading the books and still giving replies, then you are simply not qualified to answer. I genuinely appreciate Madhava Dasa Prabhu ji because at least he reads and gives solid, valid points backed by scripture. There is proper evidence behind his arguments, unlike yours.
Honestly, your replies have no basis. They come across as nothing more than sentimental outpourings. Most of what you write is just emotion without substance.
But in bhakti, empty sentiments carry no weight without scriptural support. So please, if you are not studying the scriptures, it would be better not to reply at all. Hari Hari.
gaurav chauhan > Govind SharanSeptember 25, 2025 at 5:21pm
i didn't wish to reply but i found myself at this post for a third time since yesterday.
I think you mean well but the way you've put it out seems a bit harsh.
Govind Sharan > gaurav chauhanSeptember 26, 2025 at 12:41am
Hare Krsna. Do you agree with my statement? Hari Hari.
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Hare Krsna Mataji, please forgive me. I wrongly thought you were on my age level, so I felt it was okay to point something out. But it was my mistake. Actually, it was not humility but my own hallucination of knowledge and my ego speaking.
Śrīman Mahāprabhu has instructed us:
tṛṇād api sunīcena taror api sahiṣṇunā, amāninā mānadena kīrtanīyaḥ sadā hariḥ
I could not apply this in my behavior, and instead, I allowed my rigid nature to come forward. This is my avguna (fault). I had harshness and lack of sensitivity.
You have shared your point of view clearly from your heart and I can see clearly how much bhāva is there in your devotion. My mind was clouded by overconfidence, so instead of honoring your emotions and realizations, I questioned and acted foolishly.
Truly, it is I who must learn from you i.e. your sincerity, your natural love, and your way of expressing bhakti, even if it comes with emotion or toṭhālī bhāṣā. What matters is that it is genuine glorification of Śrī Śrī Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa.
Please bless me that I may become free from pride and truly imbibe Mahāprabhu’s instruction of humility. I will try to focus on praising Kṛṣṇa more and correcting myself rather than correcting others. Hari Hari.
No issues. We are in Kaliyuga and it is all Kali Prabhaav. Sometimes we are in bad mood. It reflects on our behavior.
We are all "L" board in Bhakti.
We maybe are well read in books but while implementing in day to day practice is it very tough all these what is told in scriptures.
But implementing part is what we have to learn to become qualified to be called as a devotee also.
Anyhow. Lets end this here and continue our bhakti.
This episode surely made me close to you all.
Thanks for the support given by Gaurav prabhu, Akshit prabhu and Madhava dasa prabhu..
All thanks to Govind Sharan prabhu too because now we have a group of devotee friends here. YAY!!!
Ab hum sab dost hai. teekh hai?
Hare Krishna
Yeah, i would like to be a part of your group. Thank you for your wonderful association. Hari Hari.
Hare Krsna Govind Sharan Prabhu ji
I think mataji will reply to you soon enough.
There is a saying that " All is well that ends well ". It is actually Napolean Bonaparte who said it but that is not important since also things didn't end too well with him in Waterloo. However, it is a nice saying and I think mataji will also agree :)
I am really glad that you are having a change of heart. This is the real symptom of progress in devotion. I am happy for you. :)
Hari bol
Hari Hari.
Hare Krsna Gayatri Mataji
After having stayed away from IDT forum for nearly five days I have come back because I found something in your reply that synchronized somewhat with my reason for staying away.
That day when I made my last reply when I said it gives me great pain why this is happening, me and my team observed two unusual happenings. We were conducting periodical testing of the airport grid. Firstly, our communication was hampered over the phone from inside the control room and outside in the yard by these very fast low flying fighter aircraft who were making a thunderous noise. The personnel at the grid told us that they have been doing that since day before yesterday. I thought maybe war is about to happen as they were flying sortie after sortie. A few months earlier there was actually a situation when we were enforcing blackouts because of escalating tensions between India and Pakistan. However, next day we learnt that air force day was around the corner so the pilots could have been practicing for that.
Now, this is not that unusual as compared to what we saw next. I made my reply at 1.00 pm and when we were returning back from the airport after approximately half an hour. Our driver noticed something on the broad main road. On slowing down we noticed that a shiny black snake was slithering across the road. We waited for the snake to cross over. I was thinking in my mind that bechare saanp ne badi himmat dikhayi because chances of getting run over by a vehicle were high.
I also thought it was a sign from Krsna that perhaps danger is close but I was not exactly sure. Then when I resumed Sri Caitanya-caritamrta from where I had left, I quckly came across this statement in a PURPORT: " The croaking of the frogs in the rainy season resounds very loudly in the forest, with the result that snakes, hearing the croaking in the darkness, approach the frogs and swallow them. "
The first thought that came into my mind was that we are all like frogs making noise on the internet and that it is better to stay away as I had decided but I was still not convinced about that until I read your reply and realized that actually something else made more sense.
In the previous verse it is stated:
" By remembering the lotus feet of the Panca tattva, a dumb man can become a poet, a lame man cross mountains, and a blind man can see the stars in the sky.
PURPORT
In Vaisnava philosophy there are three ways for perfection- namely sadhana-siddha, nitya-siddha and krpa-siddha. Kaviraja Gosvami here stresses krpa-siddha, perfection by the mercy of superior authorities. THIS MERCY DOES NOT DEPEND ON THE QUALIFICATIONS OF A DEVOTEE. By such mercy, even if a devotee is dumb he can speak or write to glorify the Lord splendidly, even if lame he can cross the mountains, and even if blind he can see the stars in the sky. "
It is in context with this understanding that it is said in the next verse that: " The education cultivated by so-called scholars who do not believe these statements of Sri Caitanya-caritamrta is like the tumultous croaking of frogs."
In conclusion, I still believe I have not been able to comprehend or explain everything. Actually, I have grown weary of typing so I will end this reply here.
Hari bol
adbhudt copy pasting ka pradarshan.
Hare Krsna Mata ji, if you are not actually reading the books and still giving replies, then you are simply not qualified to answer. I genuinely appreciate Madhava Dasa Prabhu ji because at least he reads and gives solid, valid points backed by scripture. There is proper evidence behind his arguments, unlike yours.
Honestly, your replies have no basis. They come across as nothing more than sentimental outpourings. Most of what you write is just emotion without substance.
But in bhakti, empty sentiments carry no weight without scriptural support. So please, if you are not studying the scriptures, it would be better not to reply at all. Hari Hari.
i didn't wish to reply but i found myself at this post for a third time since yesterday.
I think you mean well but the way you've put it out seems a bit harsh.
Hare Krsna. Do you agree with my statement? Hari Hari.
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