gaurav chauhan > Govind SharanOctober 16, 2025 at 3:56pm
that's alright lord chaitanya also took initiation in like fashion.that was just to gain public acceptance.Look at the purpose.it is not to spread mayawad philosophy.So how can a person who is preaching and spreading NON advaitic philosophy be termed as an advaitin? what about my other question, the relation between gita govinda and shankaracharya?
Govind Sharan > Madhava dasOctober 17, 2025 at 10:05am
I think your logic collapses — calling Śaṅkarācārya a māyāvādī in the sense of a deluded atheist is equal to insulting Lord Śiva, who was merely fulfilling a divine commission.
Even your own quotation says:
“He had to imagine some kind of interpretation.”
But Śaṅkarācārya himself, in his Bhaja Govindam, Govinda Aṣṭakam, and Harimīde Stotra, explicitly glorifies Govinda, Kṛṣṇa, and Nārāyaṇa as the Supreme Reality.
If that’s “atheism,” then perhaps your definition of devotion needs serious revision
Śaṅkarācārya’s role was surgical — he removed the poison of Buddhist voidism by reintroducing Vedic theism in an abstract form. After his time, the Lord Himself, as Śrī Caitanya, revealed the full nectar of Bhakti. You can’t blame the physician for using anesthesia before the cure.
If, as you quote, “Śaṅkarācārya says — Nārāyaṇaḥ paro ’vyaktāt,” then by your own evidence he accepted Nārāyaṇa as transcendental and supreme.
Now tell me, does an atheist declare “Nārāyaṇa is beyond the material world”? Your own reference refutes your labeling.
Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu Himself quoted Śaṅkarācārya’s “bhaja govindaṁ” approvingly, because that reveals Śaṅkara’s true intent — to direct people ultimately to Govinda.
Even Śrīdhara Svāmī, whom Mahāprabhu called jagad-guru, came from Śaṅkara’s Smārta line. So, if lineage equals contamination, you’re indirectly accusing Mahāprabhu Himself of following a “Māyāvādī” ācārya — a blunder beyond measure.
Govind Sharan > gaurav chauhanOctober 16, 2025 at 11:56pm
As Jayadeva Gosvami composed rasika granthas, his writings are filled with deep love and devotion. Similarly, Adi Shankaracharya’s works also overflow with love and devotion toward Sri Krishna. He teaches the worship of Sri Krishna.
Despite this, Madhav Das calls Shankaracharya’s followers Mayavadis. Technically, by doing so, he is calling Mahaprabhu Himself a Mayavadi!
And on top of that, he engages in Ahangrahopasana, claiming himself to be God.
Really, I have no idea what he’s doing — he even calls himself Shesha-Naag and Kalki Avataar. Hari Hari.
Govind Sharan > Madhava dasOctober 16, 2025 at 10:52am
Deleting replies and running away from the truth won’t save you. If you’ve got any courage left, prove yourself right — here, in front of everyone. Hari Hari.
Govind Sharan > Madhava dasOctober 16, 2025 at 11:29am
Oh please, don’t even dare compare yourself to Śrī Kṛṣṇa. He is called Rañchor because He strategically withdrew from battle — not because He ran away from the truth. You, on the other hand, are just escaping a conversation you can’t handle. Don’t glorify your cowardice by hiding it under Kṛṣṇa’s divine name. Kṛṣṇa runs to protect dharma — you run to protect your fragile ego. You also hide behind Lord Shiva for your bad habits for no reason, and now you are hiding behind Sri Krishna. How can you protect dharma in this way? Hari Hari.
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that's alright lord chaitanya also took initiation in like fashion.that was just to gain public acceptance.Look at the purpose.it is not to spread mayawad philosophy.So how can a person who is preaching and spreading NON advaitic philosophy be termed as an advaitin? what about my other question, the relation between gita govinda and shankaracharya?
I think your logic collapses — calling Śaṅkarācārya a māyāvādī in the sense of a deluded atheist is equal to insulting Lord Śiva, who was merely fulfilling a divine commission.
Even your own quotation says:
Śaṅkarācārya’s role was surgical — he removed the poison of Buddhist voidism by reintroducing Vedic theism in an abstract form. After his time, the Lord Himself, as Śrī Caitanya, revealed the full nectar of Bhakti. You can’t blame the physician for using anesthesia before the cure.
If, as you quote, “Śaṅkarācārya says — Nārāyaṇaḥ paro ’vyaktāt,” then by your own evidence he accepted Nārāyaṇa as transcendental and supreme.
Now tell me, does an atheist declare “Nārāyaṇa is beyond the material world”? Your own reference refutes your labeling.
Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu Himself quoted Śaṅkarācārya’s “bhaja govindaṁ” approvingly, because that reveals Śaṅkara’s true intent — to direct people ultimately to Govinda.
Even Śrīdhara Svāmī, whom Mahāprabhu called jagad-guru, came from Śaṅkara’s Smārta line. So, if lineage equals contamination, you’re indirectly accusing Mahāprabhu Himself of following a “Māyāvādī” ācārya — a blunder beyond measure.
As Jayadeva Gosvami composed rasika granthas, his writings are filled with deep love and devotion. Similarly, Adi Shankaracharya’s works also overflow with love and devotion toward Sri Krishna. He teaches the worship of Sri Krishna.
Despite this, Madhav Das calls Shankaracharya’s followers Mayavadis. Technically, by doing so, he is calling Mahaprabhu Himself a Mayavadi!
And on top of that, he engages in Ahangrahopasana, claiming himself to be God.
Really, I have no idea what he’s doing — he even calls himself Shesha-Naag and Kalki Avataar. Hari Hari.
Deleting replies and running away from the truth won’t save you. If you’ve got any courage left, prove yourself right — here, in front of everyone. Hari Hari.
Oh please, don’t even dare compare yourself to Śrī Kṛṣṇa. He is called Rañchor because He strategically withdrew from battle — not because He ran away from the truth. You, on the other hand, are just escaping a conversation you can’t handle. Don’t glorify your cowardice by hiding it under Kṛṣṇa’s divine name. Kṛṣṇa runs to protect dharma — you run to protect your fragile ego. You also hide behind Lord Shiva for your bad habits for no reason, and now you are hiding behind Sri Krishna. How can you protect dharma in this way? Hari Hari.
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