Hare Krishna!!
Please let me know What will happen to those person who do pooja daily and do 2-4 rounds of japa and also do Ekadashi fast and he has no desire.. he do his duties without ego selfless desire but occasionally drink liquor in party with Freinds in get together during some events .
1 .What sinful reaction will get to these person ?
2.does his devotion service vanquished
3. Does he got animal birth in next life ?
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Thank you Prabhu ji 🙏🏻🙏🏻
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1. how Ajamala sins got cleared as he was doing sin during that time when he was so attached to his child ?
Ajamila was very attached to his family. All of his sins were removed when he chanted the holy name of Narayana offenselessly once at the time of his death. Holy name of Krsna is Krsna. Krsna can remove all of one's sins in a moment.
2. if he is doing sinful act and along with chanting his son name then he was also sitting in 2 boats and one boat is sinful and other is god names
No, he was not chanting while doing sins. He was not committing sins at that exact moment when he called out Narayana at the time of his death. He was doing sins up to the point of his death and he completely got puried after visit by Vishnudutas. He was not mixing sins and bhakti. He changed his course of actions completely and life in a few moments. So that is possible by the power of the holy names of Sri Krsna.
No amount of material conditioning can stand in front of the holy names. When holy name arises and shines in the heart, all the darkness of conditioning is gone.
3. from above your post he did all Bhakti when he got another life by Vishnu jbecause he chanted his son name otherwise Yamraj was giving sinful reaction to them
Yes, Just by that one chanting of Narayana his sins were removed. After his sins were removed, he did not commit sins again. He performed very intense bhakti.That is the only remedy.
And also he did not done any Bhakti intentionally
It doesn't matter in the beginning if one performs bhakti intentionally or unknowingly the holy name acts. Same way it doesn't matter if one performs sins casually or socially or diligently, people get reactions..
so he has given second chance
Yes, we all are being given second, third, fourth chances everyday.
so if drinking person is doing Bhakti and japa with fully hearted then why Yamraj will give sinful punisment to that person although his sinful act is not so much as ajamala .
Because the drinking person knows that drinking is sinful and offensive to bhakti. That person knows that by drinking he is destroying his own bhakti. Such a person still continues to drink thinking bhakti will save me and I can continue to drink. This is seventh offense against the holy names of Sri Krsna.
7) To commit sinful activities on the strength of the holy name.
Such a person is misusing/ abusing the holy names to continue to commit sins. This is a great offense. There will be reaction due to offenses. Ajamila's chanting was offenseless.
Hare Krsna
Prabhu ji
here again question come
1) how Ajamala sins got cleared as he was doing sin during that time when he was so attached to his child and calling his names or did he stopped sinful act after his child born ?
2) if he is doing sinful act and along with chanting his son name then he was also sitting in 2 boats and one boat is sinful and other is god names
3) from above your post he did all Bhakti when he got another life by Vishnu jbecause he chanted his son name otherwise Yamraj was giving sinful reaction to them
And also he did not done any Bhakti intentionally only he taking his son names but by the grace of lord he got relived from Yamraj punishment and after then only he started Bhakti, so he has given second chance
so if drinking person is doing Bhakti and japa with fully hearted then why Yamraj will give sinful punisment to that person although his sinful act is not so much as ajamala .
But prji a devotee constantly chanting Lord's name would get purified with time, then how come he go to he'll after death?
Hare Krsna
Yes a devotee constantly chanting Lord's name would get purified with time. A deotee who is fully purified will not go to hell.
But again a devotee who is fully purified will not drink alcohol also right ?
The above shloka from Garuda Purana are in general for those who commit sins. If a devotee commits sins and thinks he can escape, then it is worse than sin.
If a devotee gets fully purified by the end of life and has no inclination for sinful activities then he need not go to hell.
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But prabhu what if that devotee tried his best to quit alcohol but he couldn't due to strong addiction to it but served krsna through all his heart yet he would achieve lower planets?
I m not getting a rational clarification about this thing,
Devotion is performed through the heart whereas alcohol addiction Is something related to the human biology(like Serotonin and dopamine) and Psychological thing- the way brain sends signals to the body to perform the same action again and again repeatedly, and srila prabhupad in one of his Conversation quoted as - "Krishna only cares how much u Love him" So if a devotee is yearning for krishna why would the Lord still send him to he'll through the arrangement of material nature?
Won't Lord help him personally to realise his True Self?
Hare Krsna
couldn't due to strong addiction
No addiction is stronger than the holy names of Sri Krsna.
Devotion is performed through the heart
No devotional service begins with senses, especially tongue.
When Kṛṣṇa is satisfied with one’s devotional service, He does everything Himself. Sevonmukhe hi jihvādau svayam eva sphuraty adaḥ. He reveals more and more to the devotee as the devotee advances in service. Jihvādau: this service begins with the tongue, with chanting and with taking the prasāda of Kṛṣṇa.
na bhaved grāhyam indriyaiḥ
sevonmukhe hi jihvādau
svayam eva sphuraty adaḥ
(Bhakti-rasāmṛta-sindhu 1.2.234) ( Purport SB 10.9.15)
Devotional service eventually encompasses senses, mind, intelligence, heart and all of one's consicousness
alcohol addiction Is something related to the human biology
All addictions are due to material conditionings. The process of devotional service is to remove those conditionings.
Bhakti-yoga is the purification of the senses. At the present moment in material existence the senses are always impure, being engaged in sense gratification. But by the practice of bhakti-yoga these senses can become purified, and in the purified state they come directly in contact with the Supreme Lord. In this material existence, I may be engaged in some service to some master, but I don’t really lovingly serve my master. I simply serve to get some money. And the master also is not in love; he takes service from me and pays me. So there is no question of love. But for spiritual life, one must be elevated to the pure stage of love. That stage of love can be achieved by practice of devotional service, performed with the present senses. This love of God is now in a dormant state in everyone’s heart. And, there, love of God is manifested in different ways, but it is contaminated by material association. Now the heart has to be purified of the material association, and that dormant, natural love for Kṛṣṇa has to be revived. That is the whole process. This practice can help anyone rise to the level of love of God, and then he is sure of his progress into the spiritual kingdom of God. This practice of bhakti-yoga, under the rules and regulations, with the direction of a spiritual master, will surely bring one to the stage of love of God. ( Purport BG 12.9)
"Krishna only cares how much u Love him" So if a devotee is yearning for krishna why would the Lord still send him to he'll through the arrangement of material nature?
True, but we cannot assume that we love Krsna. Love for Sri Krsna is not a cheap thing. It is the highest stage of Bhakti. Those who are fully in stage of love for Krsna feel that they have no love for Krsna. On the other hand those who claim or pretend like they have love for Krsna are only cheap imitators called sahajiyas who have no love for Krsna.
The sign of love for Sri Krsna is that they are not attracted to anything material. They are addicted to Sri Krsna and are repelled by sense gratification. Lord Sri Chaitanya exhibhited such love for Sri Krsna.
Won't Lord help him personally to realise his True Self?
Yes Lord Sri Krsna in the form of holy names will certainly help a devotee to get rid of anarthas. Lord Sri Krsna has already appeared in the form of Holy name to help us. But as practicing devotees we need to sincerely take shelter of the holy names by absorbing our consciousness in the transcendental sound vibration of Krsna
Hare Krsna
I got it prabhuji thank u so much for ur time and answer 🙏🙇♀️
Ur Insignificant servant
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