hari krishna
recently i watched a video in which one prabhuji was giving lecture while talking about other sampradyes he mentioned about the varkari sampradaye of maharashtra where he said it to be sinful but why ???? what is the reason they are also vaishnavas ...but from diff sampradaye which also had many gr8 saints am unable to understant about it please enlighten
hari bol
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devotee of lord doesnt depend on belonging to any sampradayas or paths if he carries god in the heart.
on another side, if person is ignorant to see same lord in every religion and ignorant to see lord in every living being, all its just imitation.
http://www.radha.name/links/other-sampradayas
http://www.stephen-knapp.com/four_sampradayas.htm
http://www.dandavats.com/?p=10470
http://gaudiyahistory.com/
http://www.harekrsna.com/philosophy/gss/sadhu/sampradayas/sampraday...
i hope the above links will help
yours humble servant
There are wrong elements in every Sampradaya...so some features may have been highlighted. However Warkari Sampradaya is genuine. Sant Tukaram is the best example. We should be like the swan ; take the best in the Sampradaya in accordance to the teachings of Lord Chaitanya
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Hare Krishna
Sampradaya means originating from Krsna and always spreading Krsna consciousness.
Varkaris follow the path of great vaishnava saint Tukaram Maharaja. In fact they literally also make the journey from Dehu village (where Tukaram Maharaj appeared) to Pandarpur where Lord Vittal (Krsna) is waiting (for His devotees) along with mother Rukmini.
They are materially simple and behaviorally humble which is also the main teachings of Lord Sri Chaintanya Mahaprabhu. There is no doubt that the path of Saint Tukaram is Vaishnavism, which can be clearly seen by their understanding , practices and the goal
1. Holy names of lord - They chant names of Rama, Krishna, Hari, Vitthal etc
2. Eternal transcendental form of supreme lord - Lord Krsna standing erect keeping with both of his hands on his waiting and onlooking for his devotees
3. Hear and adhere to pure devotees - Saint Tukaram who gave the above two.
4. Scriptural teachings of Tukaram - Saint Tukaram preached to simple villagers in simple local language as applicable to their simple lives. His teachings contain the essense of all the scriptural knowledge and are known as "Gatha" . Some envious people wanted to destroy the Gatha and put it in a river, but the personification of that river returned the sacred Gatha on a lotus flower considering the teachings to be divine.
5. Worship of Tulasi maharani - They recognize the importance of grace of Tulasi Maharani in progress of Krsna consciousness of a practitioner.
6. Importance of Dham - They recognize the sacredness of place where Saint Tukaram appeared and where the lord resides.
7. Spiritual world - Saint Tukaram went back home back to godhead, spiritual world so they believe in the spiritual world and in the eternal life in spiritual life.
Even Rupa Gosvami clearly identifies 5 priority elements relating Bhakti - Holy name, Bhagavatam, Vaishnava seva, Arca Vigraha and Holy Dham
Sampradaya as mentioned is not sinful. Sampradaya originates from Krsna and spreads Krsna consciousness. How can it be sinful. People can be sinful, but sampradaya is the thing that purifies the people of their own sinful mentality by giving the right understanding, right purificatory practices and the ultimate goal.
We have to be careful in what we hear and from whom we hear.
1. It is best to hear about any sampradaya from the practitioners of that same sampradaya.
2. If we hear about one sampradaya from another sampradaya then whatever we hear must be positive only.
3. If we hear negative about another sampradaya, then it is not bonafide
Note 1: I do not belong to Varkari Sampradaya
Note 2 : We should not hear Mayavada from Mayavadi because it is not a sampradaya. Mayavada doesn't originate from Krsna nor does it spread Krsna consciousness.
Hare Krsna
sri Haridasa namacarya said:
"All living entities in creation are inspired by the Lord in the heart to act in different ways. People of different religions praise the Lord's holy names and qualities according to the view of their scriptures. The Supreme Lord accepts everyone's mood. If anyone shows malice towards another's religion he actually shows malice to the Lord Himself, who is worshiped by that religion. Since God is one, that person becomes envious of the same Supreme Lord that he himself is worshiping."
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SB 12.3.25 — In the Kali age people tend to be greedy, ill-behaved and merciless, and they fight one another without good reason. Unfortunate and obsessed with material desires, the people of Kali-yuga are almost all śūdras and barbarians.