regarding other sampradayes

hari krishna

recently i watched a video in which one prabhuji was giving lecture while talking about other sampradyes he mentioned about the varkari sampradaye of maharashtra where he said it to be sinful but why ???? what is the reason they are also vaishnavas ...but from diff sampradaye which also had many gr8 saints am unable to understant about it please enlighten
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  • devotee of lord doesnt depend on belonging to any sampradayas or paths  if he carries god in the heart. 

    on another side, if person  is ignorant to see same lord in every religion and ignorant to see lord in every living being, all its just imitation.

    SB 3.29.21 — I am present in every living entity as the Supersoul. If someone neglects or disregards that Supersoul everywhere and engages himself in the worship of the Deity in the temple, that is simply imitation.
    SB 3.29.22 — One who worships the Deity of Godhead in the temples but does not know that the Supreme Lord, as Paramātmā, is situated in every living entity’s heart, must be in ignorance and is compared to one who offers oblations into ashes.
    SB 3.29.23 — One who offers Me respect but is envious of the bodies of others and is therefore a separatist never attains peace of mind, because of his inimical behavior towards other living entities.
    SB 3.29.24 — My dear mother, even if he worships with proper rituals and paraphernalia, a person who is ignorant of My presence in all living entities never pleases Me by the worship of My Deities in the temple.


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  • There are wrong elements in every some features may have been highlighted. However Warkari Sampradaya is genuine. Sant Tukaram is the best example. We should be like the swan ; take the best in the Sampradaya in accordance to the teachings of Lord Chaitanya


  • Sevak

    Hare Krishna

    Sampradaya means originating from Krsna and always spreading Krsna consciousness. 

    Varkaris follow the path of great vaishnava saint Tukaram Maharaja. In fact they literally also make the journey from Dehu village (where Tukaram Maharaj appeared) to Pandarpur where Lord Vittal (Krsna) is waiting (for His devotees) along with mother Rukmini. 

    They are materially simple and behaviorally humble which is also the main teachings of Lord Sri Chaintanya Mahaprabhu. There is no doubt that the path of Saint Tukaram is Vaishnavism, which can be clearly seen by their understanding , practices and the goal

    1. Holy names of lord - They chant names of Rama, Krishna, Hari, Vitthal etc

    2. Eternal transcendental form of supreme lord - Lord Krsna standing erect keeping with both of his hands on his waiting and onlooking for his devotees

    3. Hear and adhere to pure devotees - Saint Tukaram who gave the above two.

    4. Scriptural teachings of Tukaram - Saint Tukaram preached to simple villagers in simple local language as applicable to their simple lives. His teachings contain the essense of all the scriptural knowledge and are known as "Gatha" . Some envious people wanted to destroy the Gatha and put it in a river, but the personification of that river returned the sacred Gatha on a lotus flower considering the teachings to be divine.

    5. Worship of Tulasi maharani - They recognize the importance of grace of Tulasi Maharani in progress of Krsna consciousness of a practitioner. 

    6. Importance of Dham - They recognize the sacredness of place where Saint Tukaram appeared and where the lord resides. 

    7. Spiritual world - Saint Tukaram went back home back to godhead, spiritual world so they believe in the spiritual world and in the eternal life in spiritual life.

    Even Rupa Gosvami clearly identifies 5 priority elements relating Bhakti - Holy name, Bhagavatam, Vaishnava seva, Arca Vigraha and Holy Dham 

    • Sevak

      Sampradaya as mentioned is not sinful. Sampradaya originates from Krsna and spreads Krsna consciousness. How can it be sinful. People can be sinful, but sampradaya is the thing that purifies the people of their own sinful mentality by giving the right understanding, right purificatory practices and the ultimate goal.

      We have to be careful in what we hear and from whom we hear.

      1. It is best to hear about any sampradaya from the practitioners of that same sampradaya.

      2. If we hear about one sampradaya from another sampradaya then whatever we hear must be positive only.

      3. If we hear negative about another sampradaya, then it is not bonafide

      Note 1: I do not belong to Varkari Sampradaya

      Note 2 : We should not hear Mayavada from Mayavadi because it is not a sampradaya. Mayavada doesn't originate from Krsna nor does it spread Krsna consciousness.

      Hare Krsna

  • sri Haridasa namacarya said:

    "All living entities in creation are inspired by the Lord in the heart to act in different ways. People of different religions praise the Lord's holy names and qualities according to the view of their scriptures. The Supreme Lord accepts everyone's mood. If anyone shows malice towards another's religion he ac­tually shows malice to the Lord Himself, who is worshiped by that religion. Since God is one, that person becomes envious of the same Supreme Lord that he himself is worshiping."


    SB 12.3.25 — In the Kali age people tend to be greedy, ill-behaved and merciless, and they fight one another without good reason. Unfortunate and obsessed with material desires, the people of Kali-yuga are almost all śūdras and barbarians.

    SB 12.3.32 — Cities will be dominated by thieves, the Vedas will be contaminated by speculative interpretations of atheists, political leaders will virtually consume the citizens, and the so-called priests and intellectuals will be devotees of their bellies and genitals.
    SB 12.3.33 — The brahmacārīs will fail to execute their vows and become generally unclean, the householders will become beggars, the vānaprasthas will live in the villages, and the sannyāsīs will become greedy for wealth.
    SB 12.3.34 — Women will become much smaller in size, and they will eat too much, have more children than they can properly take care of, and lose all shyness. They will always speak harshly and will exhibit qualities of thievery, deceit and unrestrained audacity.
    SB 12.3.35 — Businessmen will engage in petty commerce and earn their money by cheating. Even when there is no emergency, people will consider any degraded occupation quite acceptable.
    SB 12.3.36 — Servants will abandon a master who has lost his wealth, even if that master is a saintly person of exemplary character. Masters will abandon an incapacitated servant, even if that servant has been in the family for generations. Cows will be abandoned or killed when they stop giving milk.
    SB 12.3.37 — In Kali-yuga men will be wretched and controlled by women. They will reject their fathers, brothers, other relatives and friends and will instead associate with the sisters and brothers of their wives. Thus their conception of friendship will be based exclusively on sexual ties.
    SB 12.3.38  Uncultured men will accept charity on behalf of the Lord and will earn their livelihood by making a show of austerity and wearing a mendicant’s dress. Those who know nothing about religion will mount a high seat and presume to speak on religious principles.
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