I'd like to discuss something very important about reincarnation and the fact Krishna is in each and every being.
Still reading after the Gita and Bhagavatam and many other works now the Purana's, there are so many stories about one got in jeaperdy and is born in animal stock or vegitations etc. and regain their human form lateron.
The question or discussion is; one can make always a misstep(misstep in the eye's of bhakti-yoga go to Godhead) and be born in other spices. In Purana's loads of stories even the ones who were saints of minor believers but on the path of self-realization. Sometimes one make a descision to do something against bhakti or deviant on the path, sometimes by excedent or force( think of bad position you might get into and do things best out of 2 bad things think of war or rape or disaster times) Still you all may agree it is all the 3 modes of nature, wich is correctly speaking, but theoretical/filosophical discussions are in the acts often not very pleasing or helpful. In other words; easier said than done! Like"If you know it all, why you still have a material body on this planet?" Not need to be harsh it's all a learning process.
To the point;
Is it really that bad or unforgiven to be reborn in a non human life form? I mean once there were 2 trees in some backyard wich Krishna as a kid playfully with something rooted up thoose trees and their souls got deliverd. Not only Krishna , but indirectly many others where eventually to the stage to be fit to go to Vaikuntha!
I often asked this to devotees, they often said;"It is our duty to get to Krishna in an instant!" ....right...
But life after life you get merits and demerits, the fact one is now talking(typing) about Krishna topics is already a huge step forwards! As many times Krishna says; "My devotee will never get lost!"
For me living in a huge struggle of life( well every single person has it's own trouble due the 3 modes of nature&karma of past and present deeds/lives)It's very often in lectures the Earth is like a prison, or life is a prison, but I am the only one who can tell you all about a real prison how it is like inside. Even there I had build a altar and offerd bhoga, had lights&incence plus kept chanting Hare Krishna! It was not too bad.
Many inmates killed themselves, once a month 2 or 4 in total. I see it as a reset button. By birth you forget your previous life anyways, unless one gives you water from Indrapastra well(it was Pdma purana right?)then you regain all your previous lives.
So here the thing; to take your life there are many motivations. As a ignorance person, to escape, in warzones, prevent to be raped or robed, haring that Krisna is offended very very badly one could kill themselves and a yogi who like to transfer to another body or even planet! All will get their karmic reactions and most importantly all had karmic things why they wee put in that situations. Thing is; is all so black and white? Suïcide may not always bad. The position one get is up to karmic ways AND what you gained to the path towards Krishna! Even if one went to thousands of years of hells and lifeforms non-human, one certainly begets a human lifform again. Time is an illusion for the soul. Because the soul cannot die right?!
So why are the scriptures so clear and people discuss them as clear as water but in reality are afraid for death/leaving the body? Or afraid to make misstaps?!
The many trouble I underwent might not for everyone easy to handle. The reset button seems for me a very good option. Joined the many ratha Yatra's, harinam's, programs and read and listen so many Krishna books and topics I am not very afraid for hell or lower life forms. Because The Supersoul as a withness is in every creature, movable or unmovable! Why is that so hard to get? Like "You are not this body" the famous phrase. So how come the many hells and hellish planets we must be afraid for if we know a little about Krishna?! And we are the soul and not the body? Tortures and way to Yamaraja the distance etc. why bother? Be physically and mentally abused for years myself, what is pain anyway?
So after reading this, what is your opinion about if one ends it's life? Or better give sacred texts to strengthen your statement. Again, if you see the Supersoul in every creature, why not love every creature and care each and every creature the way Krishna's propperty worth it? Animals for example humans discriminate them as lower, BUT as stated in many purana stories every devotee could end up in a animal life form. So be careful to discriminate.
Even your now loved one could end up be a animal or plant/vegitation or mountain! So f the soul still keep loving that other soul, as soulmates than spiritually there is a good thing, but materially in human prespective a troublesome situation. Human vs animal or human vs vegitation, you get the point! Not in ignorance state! There were saints begot a non human life form and their lover be a human which was solved lateron. In 'normal' eye's it is beastiality! But Krishna likes to play with our minds. People find this very nasty even devotees are against this. Just I like to make clear; you might have a partner now, or family in greater speaking. BUT due their actions they could end up in other life forms or were other life forms before you are family of them. How difficult is that to understand if you know the Gita, know Krishna?! No need to be harsh. If a animal is very frustrated and makes all sorts of behaviour human alike, there must be some reason for it. Trapped in a animal body, but still small conciousness of human understandings. Because it is the soul who lives forever in every entity! How hard is it to get?
I hope to have your attention by now to realize not all is black and white. And never can judge on the higher platform. If I for example would leave my body premature (what even is premature, it's all karma, Krishna's arrangements even suïcide, Krishna won't like it, but would not hold aginst it, He just sighs and let His demigods decide to you be born again in what setting BUT will get your soul get His attention again in that lifeform. It be prasadam, a devotee sight or visit by change a holy place to remember Him)I for one had explained my opinion and what I understood so far from the scriptures. Even if I may be wrong, this discussion is meant to tell me otherwise, be kind. It is never easy to see your loved one be killed or abused and many trauma's made me almost impossible to gain a normal life with a partner and have kids. Unable to have a job and unable to join social life due criminal records and misunderstandings of illigal be adopted in the first place. Than a reset button is very much music in my ears.The newly life I get new oppertunities. And as all scriptures tells us, a devotee of Krishna never perishes. How many times it is told, chant only once His names and you are rescued?! Like I wrote many times now; merits and demerits only Krishna knows. No need to be afraid nor sad. When deathpenalty is uplifted, it is very harsh for ex-convicted ones to gain a normal life amoung the public, believe me. Everyone claims; the sentence is done, you are free. But in their minds you are still a dirty person who not deverve to live on. That my devotees is the reality! If you keep all this long story in mind, is suïcde really that bad?
Thanks for reading, thanks for reacting in the future. All I wanted is a little understanding of my pov of life as it is for me in an open prison. It's all past life karma, but not easy or nice to deal with. For no one.Please love Krishna, your loved one in this world may look different in the lives to come, could you love your partner still if a animal, vegitation or unmovable creature, or same gender as you are? If you can, you are very close to Krisna Conciousness highest stage. Because you see the soul within and most likely Krishna! Not talking about the 2 modes of nature; passion or ignorance. Than you randomly may love or like some creature. I am talking about a special bound seen in one another wich might be lost connection with in past lives. Still if passion drives you to love each and every creature, in non discrimination way. That might still be on the level of Krishna conciousness as long you love the supersoul within the other and not discriminate the outward body.
Chant Hare Krishna!