All Glories to srilaprabhupad
why so much of suffering in my life,i lost my job,since frm last 3 motnhs im at home not doing anything i just do chat sometimes and visit temple on sundays and prerna festival,
But i have experienced the power of krishna its been great as long as im chatting the holy name and visiting temple,
But I have one serious problem i have tried many ways to come out frm this situation, i Cant Control my LUST,it ruins Everything,it makes me feel guilty, bcoz of this i miss chatting and my mind get depressed and i go beyond it out of track depression,Wen im in such state i feel like to commit sucide,and i feel that krishna is that harsh for his devoties that make them thinks to do sucide,
Im enable to concentrate on my works,bcoz of this IN and OUT Situation i lost in Interest to Live the life, Im the backbone for my Parents,WHY KRISHNA IS THAT HARSH FOR HIS OWN DEVOTIES,I Just Wanna live simple Life were i can earn some for my family to support my parents and serve more to lord krishna,but i tried very way out i feel like i have that spiritual soul but not the balance mind.
Plz do give me some pratical tips to deal with such situation wer i continue to serve krishna and balance my life
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My statement is understood by such and as such by people who are not at peace. The non dualistic approach doesnt obsess over the material existence nor the conditions therein.
Action in inaction and saving one self by faith. My example is an individual that does his best to achieve a goal. Even if tht goal is liberation, his attitude and every gesture done towards his goal is indeed a step towards a goal and in the correct moral direction; but that same goal takea a step away from him to the same extent and degree. Goal oriented work is karma building, and even then, it is not the cause of liberation just as it is not the cause of the perdition in the first place.
What i am saying is that one may attain liberation at the same speed as one who eats meat; by virtue that liberation is beought in and given by God, just as damnation is given by God and not peers or society. I will also add that impulses and desires are due to gunas; people who think an individual is purely rajaasic tamasic or satvic are children in spiritual matters; to them all is red blue or brown. Teenagers think that way. Moral nature is part of the subaconcious mind of an individual...
The lectures ans scriptures are meant for those who are faithless not for the faithful. Likewise sri krishna doesnt come for the saints neither did jesus come for those liberated, but for those with a trouvled mind and spirit.
Sri krishna also mentioned those who torture the mind, wether seeking pleasure or as reason to attain a goal, spiritual or not. All these people r concerned with their own wellfare. For which reason they dont know peace and will not enjoy salvation. Because they are concerned with inner struggles they cannot enjoy peace nor do they understand where they stand in terms of duty, best example is devotees of krishna who abandon their families and neglect filial dity because of bhakti to krishna. They then reflection to justify immorality such as abandoninf duty to parents; in example making sure that their parents arent missing anything. They bring up ridiculous reasoninh such as krishna is mother and father therefore i should not bother and focus on the eternal father krishna who is god. This bhakti and pattern of thinking is in the mode of passion. It is neither reasonable nor advised. Because iskcon community is very naive and childish at times (since america is a very young civilization) such things and behaviors are seen as spiritually mature.
Therefore devotees, go eat corn all you want. Call mechlas sudras and lower being those that eat meat; if you cannot see bagwan shri krishna in those beings, how will you evr find your way to krishnaloka? Krishnaloka can be experiences here on earth.
Youngs devotees see god and jesus as samr and they think kingdom of God comes at death; but i wwrn beloved devotees of this community if you have not felt krishnaloka in this world, even at death you will not recognize it, and your level of experience will draw you back here to live again a life full of difficulty and tapas.
Hare Krsna Gaurav Prabhu,
PAMHO.
Our philosophy is achintya bheda bhed - that was propounded by Chaitanya Mahaprabhu and mentioned by Srila Prabhupada in his books.
I have seen you are having a lot of correspondence with Asur Vasudev prabhu and Dean prabhu. Pls figure out what they are all about - Asur prabhu will write looooong mails, and at the end say, its not necessary that he even believes what he has written. Simply word jugglery. I asked him once in a detailed mail - no response to that mail. Sometimes buddha, sometimes something else - he has not yet found his path - blaspheming devotees, questioning ISKCON (in a challenging manner), speaking about sleeping with countless women and writing 3 back to back mails on status of women. Maybe at the end of it, he will say its not his views at all. Same with Dean prabhu. He cannot answer one simple thing I asked him - Jesus said Thou shall not kill, when he quoted Jesus. Then he started with chandala without giving any references. Let them arrive at what they believe in - then we can discuss.
Like Krsna has mentioned in Gita - bahunam janman ante, gyaanwan maam prapadyate; vasudeva sarvam iti, sah mahatma sudurlabha - not everyone who starts walking down this path attains perfection. And its not a conventional highway, where one gets to knwo how many km to destination and what speed to drive in. One therefore has to be careful of who one is associating with.
I am no one to guide you, still I coudnt resist writing this to you. Its your choice of course.
haribol,
Your servant,
Rashmi
Hare Krsna Gaurav Prabhu,
Thank you for this reply. Yes, that is also a point of view, that people who are not clear about the philosophy may be misled by these 2 and someone needs to counter them. I had not thought like that.
As long as you dont get influenced, its ok.
Thank you once again,
Haribol,
Rashmi
Hare Krishna Prabhuji....I have also gone thru such miseries....the best way out is keep ur self busy with spiritual activities and devotion. Increase japa rounds. Think u r very fortunate u have got this golden chance to do more devotion.
As far as ur occupation is concerned, situation will definitely change....just keep praying to Krishna and Guru.
Also you can do research (R&D) in material things which you like the most....who knows you might start up your own business or trade in that.
Keep chanting ..Hare Krishna! All the very best to u....
I am sorry to hear about your many problems. It sounds like you are suffering from depression. I am concerned because you say you feel like committing suicide. Please see a doctor and see about getting treatment for your
depression. It is your responsibility to support your parents. However, you need to take care of yourself first so that you will be able to give your parents the very best care.
Hare krishna Prabhu ji..
Chanting is practical solution.. and take this seriously not just like that it makes ur mind calm.. but in real it works in matterial matters also...
chanting mahamantra is backbone of ur family and urself.
take this time as opportunity to serve God more.. coz soon u r going to get Job definitely.. and right now u r free go to temple and do kirtan..
A job is not only source of livelihood and neither u nor krishna is responsible that u dont have job.. it is just happenings comes in everyone's life..
leave everything u have nothing to serve ur parents so u r not doing.. dont feel guilt.. it is practical life.. but u have thid body and use this in chanting and serving Krishna only...
and yes prabhu ji..
I have been experienced the situation like u.. and atlast i forcefully started doing chant more than 16 times and everytime i expected that Krishna dont give me anything but atleast get free me from these thoughts
and gradually my all big attractions went away and spontaneously i felt love for krishna and his pastimes.
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yes all is automatically..
do forcefully however u got bored but chant and try ur best to concentratr on words of mahamantra.
some1 may say that u r getting bored but y u chanting or u may feel that u r unable to concentrate so it is ineffective..
NO. it is effective coz it is God Himself.. ask him give u his love and make u forget everything else.. it may take time person to person... but it will work 100% coz Krishna is infallible..
Committing suicide means you will become ghost and you will not end the problem but you will multiply it. Thinking you are born to do something great in this world or working and making a difference in the family etc. First you must know why you came into existence and what is your purpose of life. I agree you have responsibility of your parents but the main responsibility goes to the One by whose existence you exist and your family exist who is God himself. Thinking that you are responsible for your parents and other things are wrong way to think,because Krishna is in control of everything. Whatever is happening is due to our karmas and to fix it is by chanting, reading B.Gita, Bhagavatam and get to know more about Krishna. Krishna provides everything, such as he is providing for millions of other living entities besides humans He will provide for you too and your family. Just be patience. Hare Krishna
Hare Krsna PRabhuji,
Just remembered a story that I thought of sharing, maybe it will help.
Once there was a very beautiful devotee girl. One man became attracted to her beauty and approached her. She understood and said that if you want to enjoy me, give me 15 days. Then you can visit me and enjoy me. The man agreed readily. In the next 15 days, the devotee girl did not eat much, she collected all stool and urine in bags and kept it. When the man arrived after 15 days, he saw that the lustre was gone from her face, she is looking weak and dark. Then the girl told him - you want to enjoy me, and gave him the bag of stool and urine. That man was obviously revolted.
Then she preached to him that this is what this body is - a bag of stool and urine. Every one of the nine gates of this body only give out smelly and yucky stuff, only the skin is attractive, that too is dependent on good food and nourishment. This body is actually full of foul smelling stuff and we are unnecessarily attracted to this body.
Please remember this story - next time you get attracted to someone, you can think of this story and you will feel repulsed at the thought.
Just my crude attempt to help you, prabhuji, I mean no offence.
Haribol,
Your servant,
Rashmi
Hare Krsna Prabhuji,
PAMHO.
You have to chant 16 rounds attentively, daily. Now that you have the time, you do not have a job, it is time to consolidate the spiritual front. Apart from chanting, please read Bhagavad Gita everyday, aloud and try to meditate on the teachings.
Actively look for another job and also depend on the lord's mercy, please understand that nothing happens without the will of the lord. We may have done very bad karma for which we suffer, but the lord's mercy can transcend all that without any effort.
Associate with devotees even during weekdays now. You may attend the darshan arati, guru puja and bhagawatam class in your local temple everyday till you get a job. You schedule your chanting in such a manner that you do it apart from this activity.
What I am trying to say is - bind yourself in spiritual activities in such a manner that there is no time to think anything. When you lie down to sleep, you should be so exhausted that you fall asleep immediately. Then there will be no scope for maya to enter in the form of lust and disturb you. When you are busy 24 hrs, then there will be no time to get depressed and think of ending this life.
There is no question of ending this life just like that - because we are bogged down by some problems. Please read esp Sholka 2.14 of Gita - matra sparshastu kaunteya..... Life is itself transient, then how can the problems in life be permanent. Engage yourself fully, you will not have time to think of nonsense things at all.
Best of luck prabhu. Please seek help whenever you feel the need. Do not leave the association of devotees. Above all, CHANT CHANT CHANT. That is the solution to all problems.
Haribol,
Your servant,
Rashmi
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