Do ISKCON disciples consider themselves as Hindus? Is it true that even the Hindus joining ISKCON regard themselves more as ISKCON disciples that being Hindu.The founder Acharya is Srila Prabhupada ji who was a Hindu kayasth man. Everyone following his ideals has to confess to be a Hindu.Hare Krishna... Shri Radhe Krishna Sarvada Vijayate...
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Iskcon is a way to ruin the Hindu society by calling on foreigners to give deeksha
Whoever this personality is needs to open eyes and see all the ways that "Hindu society" has been and is being ruined by western propaganda. Modern education, bollywood, secularism, consumerism, internet pronography, divorces, families being torn apart etc are ruining the "hindu society".
Iskcon is a hope to propagate the real goal of life and culture. True education of spirit soul and our relationship with Krsna is propagated by Krsna consciousness movement as given by Sri Krsna in Bhagavad Gita.
calling on foreigners to give deeksha
Spirit soul is sat cit ananand. The nature of Spirit soul is same in every living being
vidyā-vinaya-sampanne
brāhmaṇe gavi hastini
śuni caiva śva-pāke ca
paṇḍitāḥ sama-darśinaḥ
The humble sages, by virtue of true knowledge, see with equal vision a learned and gentle brāhmaṇa, a cow, an elephant, a dog and a dog-eater [outcaste]. (BG 5.18)
This is not to say any person can give deeksha. The qualification for deeksha is not country of irth. t is elevation in Krsna consciousness, purity of life and compassion towards all living beings.
Not letting these Hindus to call themselves as Hindus
How ? Is there a police force that monitors if any Iskcon follower calls himself Hindu and punish him or imprison him ? "Not letting" How ridicuous !
How will this be Confronted??
With intelligence
Hare Krsna
Gayatri > Arjun SaxenaSeptember 1, 2019 at 12:15pm
Let me tell you one important thing... Body of a foreigner is also made by the same God as hindu or Indian body.
The physical make up anatomical makeup everything is same to same.
When God didn't make any differences while creating bodies... and God didn't make any boundaries on earth like this place is hindustaan that place is America.
Did God make these geographical boundaries?
NO its all man made.
for God all are equal. A soul in a ant's body is same as soul in a foreigner body..or hindu body or shudra body or a brahmin body. There is no distinction.
How come Learned people like Shree Shankaracharya would make a blind statement like that.
foreigners are giving deeksha to hindus.. ....is there any hard and fast rule that only hindus are great only they can give dikshas.??
A qualified foreigner who is following 4 regulative principles and following rules and regulations laid by Acharyas is called a Vaishanava and he can be a guru and give deeksha. Whats the issue.?????? I have seen foreigners know more sanskrit slokas then the so called hindus.,
Brahmana is called a DWIJA .. Dwija is the one who is twice born.
Brahamin who is born in the family of brahmin family is also not qualified to be called a brahmin until he is done with his thread ceremony.
Brahmin inititation ( along with thread ceremony) makes him a brahmin that is why brahmin is born really after his jeneyu thread ceremony. that is why brahmins are called twice born.
No one is a brahmin by birth. after undergoing diksha and thread ceremony they are called brahmins.
Foreigners who are qualified can only become gurus and those people only can give diksha in ISKCON.
Person is qualified to give initiation or not is noted by the institution. Quality checking is constantly done by the organisation.
See.. There is good and bad in every step of your life..
what you take is up to you.
What Shankaracharya ji gave is his opinion. Its a free country. Everyone has right to speak out their opinions.
what to take what to leave is up to you.
Hare Krishna
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Iskcon is a way to ruin the Hindu society by calling on foreigners to give deeksha
Whoever this personality is needs to open eyes and see all the ways that "Hindu society" has been and is being ruined by western propaganda. Modern education, bollywood, secularism, consumerism, internet pronography, divorces, families being torn apart etc are ruining the "hindu society".
Iskcon is a hope to propagate the real goal of life and culture. True education of spirit soul and our relationship with Krsna is propagated by Krsna consciousness movement as given by Sri Krsna in Bhagavad Gita.
calling on foreigners to give deeksha
Spirit soul is sat cit ananand. The nature of Spirit soul is same in every living being
vidyā-vinaya-sampanne
brāhmaṇe gavi hastini
śuni caiva śva-pāke ca
paṇḍitāḥ sama-darśinaḥ
The humble sages, by virtue of true knowledge, see with equal vision a learned and gentle brāhmaṇa, a cow, an elephant, a dog and a dog-eater [outcaste]. (BG 5.18)
This is not to say any person can give deeksha. The qualification for deeksha is not country of irth. t is elevation in Krsna consciousness, purity of life and compassion towards all living beings.
Not letting these Hindus to call themselves as Hindus
How ? Is there a police force that monitors if any Iskcon follower calls himself Hindu and punish him or imprison him ? "Not letting" How ridicuous !
How will this be Confronted??
With intelligence
Hare Krsna
The physical make up anatomical makeup everything is same to same.
When God didn't make any differences while creating bodies... and God didn't make any boundaries on earth like this place is hindustaan that place is America.
Did God make these geographical boundaries?
NO its all man made.
for God all are equal. A soul in a ant's body is same as soul in a foreigner body..or hindu body or shudra body or a brahmin body. There is no distinction.
How come Learned people like Shree Shankaracharya would make a blind statement like that.
foreigners are giving deeksha to hindus.. ....is there any hard and fast rule that only hindus are great only they can give dikshas.??
A qualified foreigner who is following 4 regulative principles and following rules and regulations laid by Acharyas is called a Vaishanava and he can be a guru and give deeksha. Whats the issue.?????? I have seen foreigners know more sanskrit slokas then the so called hindus.,
Brahmana is called a DWIJA .. Dwija is the one who is twice born.
Brahamin who is born in the family of brahmin family is also not qualified to be called a brahmin until he is done with his thread ceremony.
Brahmin inititation ( along with thread ceremony) makes him a brahmin that is why brahmin is born really after his jeneyu thread ceremony. that is why brahmins are called twice born.
No one is a brahmin by birth. after undergoing diksha and thread ceremony they are called brahmins.
Foreigners who are qualified can only become gurus and those people only can give diksha in ISKCON.
Person is qualified to give initiation or not is noted by the institution. Quality checking is constantly done by the organisation.
See.. There is good and bad in every step of your life..
what you take is up to you.
What Shankaracharya ji gave is his opinion. Its a free country. Everyone has right to speak out their opinions.
what to take what to leave is up to you.
Hare Krishna
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