So there is an incorrect translation I found in the Isopanishad, which was translated by Srila Prabhupadaji.
Verse 6, Sri Isopanishad:
yas tu sarvāṇi bhūtāny
ātmany evānupaśyati
sarva-bhūteṣu cātmānaṁ
tato na vijugupsate
His translation: He who systematically sees everything in relation to the Supreme Lord, who sees all living entities as His parts and parcels, and who sees the Supreme Lord within everything never hates anything or any being.
Where is "parts and parcels" mentioned in the shloka? This cannot be ignored because it changes the entire meaning of the verse and spreads wrong knowledge as the actual translation says:
"But one who sees all living beings in oneself and oneself in all beings, therefore, does not despise anyone."
and also he did not mention "parts and parcels" in the word-to-word translation but it was added in the main verse.
Prabhupadaji's word-to-word translation:
yaḥ — he who; tu — but; sarvāṇi — all; bhūtāni — living entities; ātmani — in relation to the Supreme Lord; eva — only; anupaśyati — observes in a systematic way; sarva-bhūteṣu — in every living being; ca — and; ātmānam — the Supersoul; tataḥ — thereafter; na — not; vijugupsate — hates anyone.
Considering this, can I really trust the authenticity of Iskcon's books?
Please Clarify this. Hare Krishna 🙏🙏
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How can we reject ablsolute advaita ?
How can we? when almost everywhere in the vedas absolute advaita is accepted
Brihadaranyaka Upanishad, Shukla Yajur veda 1.4.10 Says:
brahma vā idamagra āsīt, tadātmānamevāvet, aham brahmāsmīti | tasmāttatsarvamabhavat; tadyo yo devānām pratyabubhyata sa eva tadabhavat, tathārṣīṇām, tathā manuṣyāṇām; taddhaitatpaśyannṛṣirvāmadevaḥ pratipede, aham manurabhavaṃ sūryaśceti |
tadidamapyetarhi ya evaṃ veda, aham brahmāsmīti, sa idaṃ sarvam bhavati, tasya ha na devāścanābhūtyā īśate, ātmā hyeṣāṃ sa bhavati; atha yo’nyāṃ devatāmupāste, anyo’sāvanyo’hamasmīti, na sa veda, yathā paśurevam sa devānām |
yathā ha vai bahavaḥ paśavo manuṣyam bhuñjyuḥ, evamekaikaḥ puruṣo devān bhunakti; ekasminneva paśāvādīyamāne’priyam bhavati, kiṃu bahuṣu? tasmādeṣām tanna priyam yadetanmanuṣyāvidyuḥ || 10 ||
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How can we reject ablsolute advaita?
This question was asked by you and answer was given to the best of my abilities. If someone doesn't want to reject it, then there is no problem. Please feel free to follow whichever philosophy you want. But I do have a problem if you declare the content given by His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada as incorerct based on certain interpretations.
Because such a declaration would be incorrect. I am ok if someone disgrees with content given by Srila Prabhupada.
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There is plenty wrong with the translation.
Whatever deity one worships and meditates upon, that deity becomes, be it among the gods, sages, or humans.
The above statement is incorrect translation of tadyo yo devānām pratyabubhyata sa eva tadabhavat
What I feel is, calling advaitins as "mayavadis", "non-vedic" is absolutely wrong
Personal feelings have no place whatsoever. Anyone who calls the absolute form of the Supreme Personality of Absolute truth as temporary is a mayavadi. Anyone who equates the jivatma to paramatma without accounting for the difference is a mayavadi. Mayavada philosophy is bogus, poisonous and has no place in these forums.
Also many other enlightened beings have accepted absolute advaita
It doesn't matter how many "enlightened beings" have accept mayavada, mayavada is completely bogus at its core. It is not acceptable. It is not tolerated here.
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Br.Ar. Upanisad needs to be harmonized with Vedanta sutra, the conclusion of Upanisads.
"One who understands this, saying 'I am Brahman,' becomes everything, and nothing is beyond their control."
This is refuted in the last pada of Vs. (4.4.17-21) which further elaborates on the difference among liberated jivas and the Lord, not contended by Adi Sankara in his Sariraka bhasya.
Hari Hari
ys J.
Note: I am neither an advaitin nor a vaishnava. But I do not reject the concept of Advaita and even Dvaita. Everything is true, but they are on different scales and levels is what i believe.
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Everything is true, but they are on different scales and levels is what i believe.
That is acceptable. But the progression on those level is important, which is the highest purpose of humanlife.
Lord Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu has harmonised all the siddhantas namely
Advaita (Sripada Adi Sankaracarya ), Vishistadvaita(Sripada Ramanujacarya) , Dvaita (Sripada Madhwacarya), Dvaitadvaita ( Sri Nimarakacarya) and Shuddhadvaita (Sri Vishnu Swami) into one known as Acintya Bheda Abheda tattva.
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