Root cause of lust. are cinema, internet, phone, TV, laptops, sex magazines, newspapers etc.,
Unfortunately people are not raising their voices against this.
When people will realize that they are destroying minds of men ?
Bhavishya purana foretold everything in Kaliyuga. It also foretold about Prajapalana.
But there is no information about electricity and technology, which are ruining the .world
I think people were peaceful, when these were absent in the past.
Can we unite and start a movement against these to save innocent people ?
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Hare Krsna
Root cause of lust. are cinema, internet, phone, TV, laptops, sex magazines, newspapers etc.,
Could you please provide any evidence or reference of the above statement from vedic scriptures ?
The above statement is not true. Even when these were not present in 1800s, people were still lusty. So these are NOT the root cause.
I think people were peaceful, when these were absent in the past.
Even now there are people who are peaceful without these. These are very easy to avoid, it is just a matter of training and self discipline.
When people will realize that they are destroying minds of men ?
Never. People in general will not realize, but as an individual a person can realize.
Can we unite and start a movement against these to save innocent people ?
This is a good example of trying to socialize the problem of an individual. None of these distractions are mandatory like GST. It is not that govt or anyone will punish people for not watching movies. If a person is determined to avoid these, it is quite easy. Such a movement must start from within not from outside. And people in general are not so innocent as projected.
Hare Krsna
Hare Krsna,
Thanq.
But didn't these aggravate lust in people ?
Hare Krsna,
You know that, people in general are like children.
The gnanis are very rare.
We see from scriptures, that even great mahatmas fall prey to lust.
Even devotees are affected by lust.
The great brahmana Ajamila fell to lust just by looking at sex once.
Then how can we expect common people, who are constantly hunted by media to be self controlledl.
They say, yatha Raja thatha Praja.
Kings get 6th part of people's sins.
Therefore, is it not the responsibility of the government to ban things which ruin society ?
Hare Krsna,
Suppose, a devil is devouring children, instead of killing that devil ,
should we stay aloof and say let the children save themselves , ?
Hare Krsna
Suppose, a devil is devouring children, instead of killing that devil should we stay aloof and say let the children save themselves , ?
No, we should do both. We should first save children and then kill devil.
The problem is that whatever you mentioned - TV , Internet, movies are not devil. They are distractions.
First understand difference between distraction and enemy. You are treating a distraction as an enemy. If a person fights a distraction, then the person will lose his energy, enthusiasm, resources and time. There are millions of distractions. If someone wants to fight all of them, people will brand that person as dictator and make him public enemy. The way to win over distraction is by ignoring it. Just try it at a personal level for few weeks and I'm sure you will save a lot of energy.
Devil will not let peaceful people perform their spiritual practice. Hiranyakashipu would kill brahmanas and tried killing his child for worshipping Lord Sri Hari. Such person or entity is enemy or devil. But TV, Internet, movies are not devil. If someone or a group of persons do not want to watch these things, nobody from internet company or TV channel company or movie company will force people to watch these things. Hence it is not devil.
Now the problem is people have no control over their senses. Hence they want to enjoy these things, hence they get trapped and fall prey to their negative tendencies. The solution is educate people at an individual level to control their senses and not watch negative things on media. Banning is not a practical nor permamnent solution. As a parent, you may ban it in your home. But it is not feasible on present day at level of society.
Please understand, I am not supporting that these things - TV, Internet, movies, media as worshippable. They are NOT good. But your approach to solve them is not practical.
Hare Krsna
Hare Krsna ,
Thanq for your reply. Yes, it seems highly imractical and impossible due to kaliyuga.
Yes, education should be there. But no schools are teaching vedas and righteousness.
The teachers are not dharmathmaas. All they teach is material education.
No parent teaches their child about dharma. They themselves are impious.
All they want is ranks .
Though there are some institutions like Iskcon, they don't have the power to motivate in mass scale.
Only iskcon is teaching some morals. There are no others.
By the time, they attain youth , they are fully lustful.
Once a person is empowered by lust, it is very difficult to educate him,
Even if he himself tries to quit, he will not be able to do so.
Can you show me a single man in the present society, who has not seen porn and not masturbated.?
The society made everyone believe that sex is normal.
It is not possible for a common man to live like a pious man, when the society around him is polluted.
We hear that, even devotees suffer from bad habits such as masturbation and porn.
Yes, lust was there in the past.
But I can surely say that people at present are 100 times more lustful than the past.
Did we ever hear of Child rapes in our puranas ? You say,
The rulers are not pious. The power is in the hands of evil rulers.
But still this is democracy. If we can inspire people, then there can be movement.
If we want to save our culture, we must try to inspire the people in large scale.
Yes TV is not bad. But , how many are there who can control themselves, when so many channels constantly show lusty content.
Lets say I am watching TV. Can I have that much selfcontrol not to watch movies and turn on Bhakthi channel?
As a common man I can't. May be pious persons like You can.
It is like, keeping a poisounous snake in my room, hoping that it will not bite.
Are thinking that I can control that snake.
That's why I am thinking, it is necessary to eradicate the problem from the very roots.
Yes, this seems to be impossible. in the near future.
Please remember one thing.
Mahaathmaas are very rare. There is no need to worry about them.
Even if a naked woman comes infront of him, he is not moved.
But most of the people are not pious.They fall very easily to slightest temptation
Thanq
Why some muslim countries are banning cinema ?
Because, the rulers want to save people in general from sin ?
Hare Krsna
Why some muslim countries are banning cinema ?
Please do not bring such irrelevant questions here.
Hare Krsna
You ask for banning media but problematic is their content. It's like banning knives because they can be misused for killing - not very practical idea. I'm with Bharat P. on this one: it's an internal problem in the first place.
Islamic style of banning includes Vaisnavas and others too. They don't recognize dharma in other traditions.
Hari Hari
ys J.
Hare Krsna,
. ” Restless senses, O Arjuna, forcibly carry away the mind of even a wise person striving for perfection.” (Bhagavad Gita 2.60)
You compare media to a knife. I disagree. the media is a great demon, which ruined society
I personally feel that the media is a great weapon in the hands of kalipurusha
Let us look at the college going youth. Do you disagree that they try to imitate these shameless cinema actors ?
Do you disagree that they try to dress up like actors and dance like them ?
Do you disagree that this whole boyfriend/girlfriend culture is becoz of cinema ?
Do you disagree that girls lose their virginity before marriage ?
Do you disagree that cinema adds fuel to the fire i.e lust ?
mahathma like Saubhari muni got infatuated by looking at fish.
Ajamila fell to lust just by looking at sex once when nothing like cinema was present then.
The mentality of the whole society is characterized by cinema ? ( Ex. their dressing style, their way of talking, behaving etc., ).
Do you disagree that cinema ruined indian culture ?
Do you disagree that cinema is the main reason for adultery in the society ?
Do you know 90% of the internet traffic is pornography ?
Why child rapes are happening ?
Do you still feel this is a personal problem ?
Do you still feel this is a personal problem ?
should we still stay aloof ?
You may say, an individual must be intelligent enough.
The gyanis, the great souls, even devotees fall to lust.
Everyone agrees that lust is very powerful.
Then how can we expect common people, who don't know vedas, sastras
and are constantly hunted by media to be self controlled ?
I agree, that it is not practical to ban media.
But we must atleast ban cinema and pornography if we want save indian culture.
Why munis and Rishis wrote dharmasastras ?
Why pious kings in the past ruled as per the sastras ?
Let's imagine, pious Kings such as Yudhistira or Lord Rama are ruling at present.
Would not they ban these evils which harm the society ?