lord sri krishna says, finds satisfaction in the self alone(bg 2.55)
And this is a self-understanding for us that because jiver svarupa haya krsner nitya das, the above line means to find satsfaction in realizing that we're eternal servitor of lord or find satisfaction in serving him.
Why krishna doesn't says it directly, like he could have said find satisfaction in realizing you're my eternal servitor. He always uses the word "self", is it to include the brahmavadis (worshipers of impersonal brahman) because they meditate upon the impersonal and find satisfaction in self (like Srila Sukadeva Goswami was before he got attracted to krishna ) ??
Why krishna seems so neutral? why he doesn't says things directly?
one more verse that confuses me is, dasyante yajna-bhavitah tair dattan apradayaibhyo (bg 3.12)
yagya is ultimately meant for krishna, he is enjoyer of all yagya, he is yagya-pati and we're supposed to do sankirtana-yagya in this age of kali. If we do yagya to please him then demi-gods will be pleased automatically like by watering the roots, all parts of that plant is satisfied. But this is our self-understanding, from the above verse it seems like he is saying to do yagya for demigods (aprada ebhyah).
why he speaks like this in the starting chapters? 😢
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Why krishna doesn't says it directly
Sri Krsna says directly in BG, Sri Krsna says Indirectly in BG. Sri Krsna says through Spritual master. Sri Krsna says as super soul. Sri Krsna says through scriptures, Sri Says through His devotees, Sri Krsna says as Lord Chaitanya. There is a story of a Brahmana (IN SB calnto 11) who learnt and became self realized just by observing nature That is Sri Krsna saying through nature. There is no means, no channel that is not employed by Sri Krsna for a sicnere seeker.
Why krishna seems so neutral?
That is because of the context. Arjuna starts the discussion by saying he doesn't want to fight.It would seem illogical if Arjuna says - I don't want to fight and then Sri Krsna says - I am God, so fight.
Srila Prabhupada however doesn't leave any opportunity to say Krsna is God so chant hare Krsna & surrender to Krsna.That is compassion of Srila Prabhupada. It is by mercy of Sri Krsna that Krsna's devotees are almost more merciful than Krsna Himself.
from the above verse it seems like he is saying to do yagya for demigods
It doesn't seem that Sri Krsna is saying doyagya for demigods. Sri Krsna is actually direcly saying doing yagya for demigods is bonafide. This Sri Krsna is saying because doing yagya for demigods is better than not doing one's prescribed duties. We have to see the context in BG. BG is a dialogue between 2 persons on a battle field. Arjuna asks in BG 3.1 - why do You want to engage me in this ghastly warfare, if You think that intelligence is better than fruitive work?
Sri Krsna eventually says that fighting is equivalent of yagya for Arjuna.
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yes Bharat prabhuji, i definetly understand that i need to know Bhagavad-Gita through the medium of srila prabhupada, devotees, Caitanya Mahaprabhu and supersoul directing in the heart. But, whenever krishna says in any of the verses to find satisfaction in the self, it always knocks me with the question that is he trying to keep the brahmavadis who meditate and find satisfaction in self, under consideration?
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he trying to keep the brahmavadis who meditate and find satisfaction in self, under consideration?
What is wrong with that ?
Parabrahma is impersonal manifestation of the Supreme Absolute truth. Those who mediate upon Parabrahma are called Brahmavadis. Sri Krsna has no problem with such people, in fact Sri Krsna considers them quite great. If Sri Krsna doesn't have a problem with that , Arjuna doesn't have a problem with that, what problems do Sri Krsna's devotees have with them ?
Krsna's devotees understand that Parabrahma is an eternal and absolute manifestation of Sri Krsna. It is just that devotees cannot serve Krsna in the Parabrahma manifestation.
Please understand that Sri Krsna is always present everywhere, in every possible manifestation at all times and eternally. That is vibhuti of Sri Krsna. Devotees don't have an attitude of rejecting some manifestations of Sri Krsna and accept others. Devotees may not be able to serve every manifestation but that is not even expected. What is expected is that we accept Suprme Absoluite in some bonafide form and not reject any manifestation understanding the absoluteness of Sri Krsna.
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Thank you prabhuji, now i have understood it nicely but i have one final question-
above i had mentioned a verse (bg. 3.12), later to that verse krishna says,
tasmad sarva gatam brahma
nityam yajne pratisthitam (bg. 3.15)
prabhu here, tasmad sarva gatam brahma is indicating or meaning impersonal brahman? and in "nityam yajne pratisthitam" does it means that when we do some yagya or specifically sankirtana yagya then all pervading transcendence is present or krsna is present personally in the form of vibration?
Im bewildered and unable to understand these last two lines clearlyyyy, i have watched few lectures on this verse but still confused. i would be grateful if you elaborate there two lines so that this verse becomes crystal clear to me. 🙏
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tasmad sarva gatam brahma is indicating or meaning impersonal brahman?
Please refer to word to word meaning, translation & Purport given by Srila Prabhupada in Bhagava Gita As it is. It is likely to become clear.
in "nityam yajne pratisthitam" does it means that when we do some yagya or specifically sankirtana yagya
Srila Prabhupada has answered this in Purport to the same shloka
Im bewildered and unable to understand these last two lines clearlyyyy, i have watched few lectures on this verse but still confused. i would be grateful if you elaborate there two lines so that this verse becomes crystal clear to me.
It is hard for me to understand the cause for any bewilderement. Because Srila Prabhupada has crystal clearly addressed all these questions. Requesting to please patiently read the same. I'm sure you will be able to find answers. If not please respond here.
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