Why Jiva is forced ?

Hare Krishna All,

I am sure everybody wants to enjoy life and live forever. Why Krishna being so merciful and all good couldn't make his entire creation happy place to exist.If he wants he could have created all Jivas who are obedient to his laws and live the  way he wants us to live. Why he gave minute freewill to us and then force us to

abide his laws. He gave us so many attractions in this world Wine, Money and Women and at the same time wants us to be detached. To be honest Most of the 

devotees dont like to chant and even if they do they do it as an obligaton.The way Krishna punish living entities by passing them trough various species is also very

fearful.Imagine if you are born as deer or goat and eaten by Tiger isn't it fearful. Does Krishna want living entities who love him or simply servants.As a master of this 

creation how come Krishna created world of suffering. It would have been great if Krishna created a place where there is no need for us to serve any one, enjoy everything that exists, eternal life, no karma, no chanting, no fasting, no suffering at all. I chant everyday out of fear that if I don't I may incur bad karma and live horrible next life.

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  • Devotees don't like to chant means they are not proper devotees, you may call them devotees but Sastras don't, Devotee may find difficult to chant but not liking means demoniac attitude , because Holy name is Krishna so not like Chanting means not liking Krishna, menas remain in material world without any hope! What more easy way you can get happy than chanting Hare Krishna! It is already simplified sirji!
    • Dundahvahts prahbuGee sll glory & victory to you & you'r message. Attraction for Krishna is an acquired taste, Mahnotheast that are also Krishna Bhakties seem to become tend to become distracted / focused on the innate-gratuitous reactions of chanting the names, such as becoming SOo' enamored that this path can renounce all things subtle & grows & by dedacating all actions good & bad to the Godhead, & in this way by these instructions of GOD, (in this one lifetime)
      Possibly, at the end of this LifeTime return to Him (sent present) to the SpiritualSky!
      Thus bypassing the requested 10,000 years of Bhakti/Sava He/KRISHNA has also requested ? So/thus- they/we rush the mantras & in our hurry we miss pronounce & perhaps distort their karmic (feedback-reaction.) Hence the lession that transcendental & transcendence are not the same thing i.e. thasendentle means (karma free) but. Transcendent means blissfully existing, purely seeing, & enjoying the many vibrant & ammorus pleasher- pastimes of Krishna pastimes. Faith in (The way of The Munks) involves prolonged & exzosting works in the mood of-renunciation, & intense & complete consummation mind body & deeds. (The Monk's Way) is derived by accepting an (the truthful-(honest' ) candid, evaluation that material world & nor this life are any-kind of complement to this external all-knowing Soul. These evaluations are all correct, & just actions, hypothetically, hypothetically though doesn't take into account the many other statements of God that proclaim that develuping the Drama of Service in this LifeTime & excepting Hi's absolute suvernty unconditionally as absolute. Hence' regarding services here as much as service in the eternal SpiritualSky as equals in successful resolutions to our material existence & realizations. This Chanting Process, if performed properly is attractive of all hearts eyes ears noses & mouths but if vibrated mindlessly without consideration for the sensitivities that are consequently pulled or attracted twords it then the karma or reactions become inharmoneis on the levels of reciprocation with others on subtle & gross platforms that understandings would/might be normally more congenial.
      (as of now) the definition of acharrea is (The anchent' (Munks Process). Someday j I suspect soon the Bhakties of ISKCON Will adopt yoga as well as works of surrendered service. Into a plan that is more inclusive of their own personal wellbeing and energetic balance along with respect of ( for) all that is, as God's loving creations & The Names of "The Head Gods" as an all powerful atomically charged cattalist of every-potential & our Single opportunity for us Western Bhakties to Start-up the small business of properly rectifying our eternal relationship with God as pleasher & service & an energetic existence. By chanting we *could begin or re-commence our service universally reclaiming our to give that suporttive confidence ( skills of Bhaktie yoga) direrly needed, but must be given withOut the traditional KICKING *
  • A fool learns no way except getting kicks after kicks, and even after repeated kicks he starts blaming GOD. That means he is extremely impious , no sukratis (piety) in his account! When divine people becomes frustrated they surrender to God Krishna more and more, while demon's frustration leads them more blame on Lord and more atheistic. Asking for Krishna to create a place where no need to serve anyone, then why you need Krishna to serve your desires of getting such place, It is the service of love and relationship which both Lord and Jiva enjoys and they become more and more intimate. If you don't want to serve any one then why ask Krishna to serve your desires?
  • AKASH ITS free will man, jiva soul whatever we have free individual will to do whatever the hell we want. !
  • Hare Krishna,

    Characteristics of each Yuga
    Satya Yuga (also known as Krita Yuga "Golden Age"): The first and best Yuga. It was the age of truth and perfection. This Yuga has Zero Percent of Crime and Hundred Percent of Kindness. The Krita Yuga was so named because there was but one religion, and all men were saintly: therefore they were not required to perform religious ceremonies. Humans were gigantic, powerfully built, honest, youthful, vigorous, erudite and virtuous. The Vedas were one. All mankind could attain to supreme blessedness. There was no agriculture or mining as the earth yielded those riches on its own. Weather was pleasant and everyone was happy. There were no religious sects. There was no disease, decrepitude or fear of anything. The average life span at that time was 4000 yrs.

    Treta Yuga: Is considered to be the second Yuga in order, however Treta means the "Third". In this age, virtue diminishes slightly. At the beginning of the age, many emperors rise to dominance and conquer the world. Wars become frequent and weather begins to change to extremities. Oceans and deserts are formed. People become slightly diminished compared to their predecessors. Agriculture, labour and mining become existent.

    Dvapara Yuga: Is considered to be the third Yuga in order. Dvapara means "two pair" or "after two". In this age, people become tainted with Tamasic qualities and aren't as strong as their ancestors. Diseases become rampant. Humans are discontent and fight each other. Vedas are divided into four parts. People still possess characteristics of youth in old age. Average lifespan of humans is around a few centuries.

    Kali Yuga: The final age. It is the age of darkness and ignorance. People become sinners and lack virtue. They become slaves to their passions and are barely as powerful as their earliest ancestors in the Satya Yuga. Society falls into disuse and people become liars and hypocrites. Knowledge is lost and scriptures are diminished. Humans eat forbidden and dirty food. The environment is polluted, water and food become scarce. Wealth is heavily diminished. Families become non-existent. By the end of Kali Yuga the average lifespan of humans will be as low as 20 years.
    Now who is responsible for this spoiling of the enivironment at the end of chaturyuga each time. ITS ONLY HUMAN BEING.
    Lord dissolves everything again at the end of kaliyuga.. and makes another beautiful world and gives to these human beings .. to spoil it again.....so much that then He has to come down again and completely dissolve everything and re-create it.
    Why don't the human beings all become Krishna Conscious and make Earth a beautiful place without polluting atmosphere without any ..of the Vikaras( anger, lust, greed..jealousy. pride..??) Can't we all turn Kaliyuga into Satyuga and reverse this cycle.??
    Its in our hands....But Lack of unity among people... Lack of Krishna Consciousness..
    People only have degraded the Earth to this stage.
    IF all of us have used the free will given properly acting upon what is right what is good what is dharma then there wouldn't be any kaliyuga.
    WITH EVERY YUGA .. you can see Lust, greed, jealousy pride of ownership. Increased to such an extent that..... today in Kaliyuga people merely live for their own selfish sake.
    Even in bhakti they are so selfish that.. They seek liberation from the world go to some Other loka ....Instead of making This Loka A beautiful Loka.
    People Like Srila Prabhupada only have worked for uplifting the entire human race.. SUCH people are only a handful existing who work for humanity.
    If all of us join our hands and make every living being on this planet Krishna Conscious.. This Earth is and was called Land of Gods.
    Doing everything but..... following dharma and praising and realizing Lord in everything is what we are lacking right now.
    We are finding God in temples and dharmic places .. We are not finding God in everything and everyone!!!!!!!
    He is sitting in every person's heart in every living and non living thing. The day you realize this fact..!!!! Then you wont hurt any being on this planet.
    aham ātmā guḍākeśha sarva-bhūtāśhaya-sthitaḥ
    aham ādiśh cha madhyaṁ cha bhūtānām anta eva cha ( BG Chapter 10. verse 20).
    I am the Self, O Gudakesa, seated in the hearts of all creatures. I am the beginning, the middle and the end of all beings.
    Why are we not realizing this fact??
    Why are we becoming selfish? Why are we not working for the humanity...Like Srila Prabhupada.??
    Why are we so lazy, selfish, angry, greedy, jealous.. egoistic???
    We are not "Humane" how can we be called humans?
    We lost our Satvik triats ....
    eating flesh of animals.. drink intoxicants...gambling..illicit sex....
    we become animals long back. We are just living for enjoying our own self..
    We stopped living for others sake.. We starts to become day by day selfish..
    Animals also have a selfish life style .. They kill hunt their prey and eat if they get hungry if they get a craving they mate with anyone.. .( be it mother or sister).
    You can Observe...In satyuga..
    यत्र नार्यस्तु पूज्यन्ते रमन्ते तत्र देवता:।
    यत्रैतास्तु न पूज्यन्ते सर्वास्तत्राफला: क्रिया:।

    Yatra naryastu pujyante ramante tatra Devata,
    yatraitaastu na pujyante sarvaastatrafalaah kriyaah

    Where Women are honoured, divinity blossoms there, and where ever women are dishonoured, all action no matter how noble it may be, remains unfruitful.

    In Satyuga.. not only woman all were respected.. including animals..
    Now towards the end of Dwapara itself Duryodhana and Dushyashana like people started to come in..
    Kaliyug you can see what crimes are going on these days.. These days cows are slaughtered and woman are treated as objects of lust.
    There is decline of Dharma Only becoz Lord gave you freedom to spoil the environment. Freedom of Will.
    ==>>Why did He give you such a freedom of will is your question?
    If your dad restricts you at every step of life and imposes his decision on you.....Will you like it??
    We find these days many parents want their children to become what they never have become in their own life time..
    Parents forcing child to take up Engineering or Medicine when the child is interested in painting and learning guitar
    Child doesn't have any freedom of choice to live and chose whatever he wants to be..
    THAT IS THE REASON WHY THESE DAYS THERE ARE SO MANY VRUDDHARSHARAMS opened for Seniors ...Becoz of too much interference of parents into the lives of their children.
    They get vexed up with their own parents to such an extent that they just drop their parents at the Old age homes.. uncared.
    If there is love don't impose your own will on the other.
    If you have love give them freedom to chose what they want to be.. and just give advice and keep silent.
    The child falls and learns by its own how to ride a cycle.
    Without falling 3-4 times none of us has learnt to ride a bicycle also. If the father keeps on holding the handle bars and breaks.. when will the child learn?
    SO only Lord gives freedom to chose your life.. Well, He knows ....that one day you will come BACK to HIM realizing that.....Ur choice was wrong.!!!! and When you return back this time your love towards ur father ( Lord Krishna) is real and pure without any doubt.
    Hare Krishna.
    PS- >> God made a beautiful world... We made it worse. We made it so worse that Lord has to come down again and again to demolish everything and re- establish dharma and start another Chaturyug.
    . We all should make it a beautiful place for that we need Srila Prabhupada like kind, humble, selfless souls to Spread Krishna Consciousness to all Humanity.
    See God's hand in every place you go and visit.. See Krishna in all living and non living.. YOU WONT HURT ANYTHING EVER For you selfish enjoyment.
    Hare Krishna.
    Lord is within you and surrounding you and yet he remains just a witness to your actions and doesn't interfere in your choices.. But will give you advice whenever necessary as He is the best friend of the Soul.
    "The Supersoul is observing the activities of the individual soul. As it is stated in the Upaniṣads, there are two birds sitting in one tree; one is acting and enjoying or suffering the fruits of the branches, and the other is witnessing."
  • Sevak
    Hare Krsna
    Your question(s) seem like a desperate attempt to blame it back on Krsna. I'm suffering because of Krsna made me like this. I misused freewill because Krsna gave me freewill, if Krsna had not given free will then i would not have misused it in the first place. So it is basically Krsna's fault.

    Without free will we'll have no existence. There are only 2 types of entities in existence - Krsna and Krsna's energies
    Among Krsna's energy there are 2 categories - matter and spirit.
    The difference between matter and spirit is freewill and conscience.
    If spirit does not have free will it will be as good as matter.

    Hare Krsna
  • E-Counselor
    Hare KRsna Prabhuji,


    Have you ever seen a jail (in movies or documentaries)? What facilities are there in a jail? Now see the world - this is a jail made by Krsna. And see the number of features that are there in this jail - flora and fauna and mountains and wine and women and what not. So many avenues to see, enjoy and forget everything. Isnt this what we have been doing for lifetimes?
    When we send someone to jail, our (Govt) purpose is to reform the person, so that once he comes out, he is able to blend with society.
    Krsna is doing the same thing - He has given us a jail, with much more facilities than we have created in our jails. His purpose is to reform us, so that once we go back to His kingdom, we do not create any further disturbance.
    Krsna has given us the free will to decide whether we want to stay in this world, with all its allurements, or we want to return to Him. He is full of love and He wants us to accept Him by our own free will. If He wanted, He could have not given us this free will, then there would be no need for this jail.
    Attractions of this world are to put us in illusion. If we get attracted to the temporary allurements, what is the consequence is clearly mentioned in scriptures. ALongwith free will, He has also given human beings intelligence. He expects us to utilize that intelligence, understand the temporary nature of this world, choose to attach ourselves to His name and lotus feet, then in this material body itself, we can attain Him.
    Even if I accept your statement that most devotees do not like to chant (you have a habit of passing mother of earth statements. How many devotees do you know that you can generalize?), still they chant na. Nobody is paying them to chant, nobody is forcing them to chant, in fact nobody even checks whether anyone is chanting at all or not. Once someone mentioned to Srila Prabhupada that 4 regulative principles are very difficult to follow. He replied, then don't follow. There is no force in spirituality - because you cannot fake it in front of Krsna.
    If Krsna wanted simply servants, then what stopped Him from programming us like that? He wants love from us, spontaeneous, unaldutered love, without any ulterior motive. Isnt that the most sublime gift anyone can be given?
    Your servant,
    Radha Rasamayi DD
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