I have found conclusive answers for not eating onion , garlic and mushrooms but this one floors me.I end up giving the only reason which I heard-'eating masoor dal is considered equivalent to eating meat'. Is this true? can someone plz provide a valid reason for this.
Thanks in advance
YS
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Because masoor dal eating is equivalent to cow eating
That is come from one story that is about masoor dal that is one time from one Bramhana unknowingly one cow is killed ( because of lot of time I not remember the name of that bramhna)
At a time of death the cow blood is dropped on earth from that blood masoor plant is grow
Because of that masoor having high protein and it is equivalent to gohatya
Hare krishna.
i don`t know how this news will act to devotee after all i am writing , in oder to maintain spiritual life we have to be very simple mood and food create mood. If you take heavy protein food your mind will not be able to consider humbleness quality becoz of thats devotees are say not to eat it .In spiritual life we have to accept order and is an process to go up.
During my time serving `Srila Prabhupada in India and the Far East , during His Vapu -Lila period ,...I never heard any more than this about masoori dahl - " It is too high in protein -equivalent to meat ,causing agitation and pushing on the senses ;and , is therefore shunned by Vaishnavas and Brahmacharis. -S.P.. Obviously ,it is not equivalent in Sin to killing an animal.
Your servant ,
Sevananda das
Hare Krishna Prebhuji
Yes i myself wonder about this topic but finally i came to know, you may eat if you working hard all day long and no other food is there except this dal and it is cheap for poor person because it is not killing any animal.
Hare Krishna
It has been a very wonderful experience reading this thread. :)
I could see many devotee's efforts in understnding Srila Prabhupada and inturn Krishna.
My vote --" for not to be anything against SrilaPrabupada's words".
He is the most intelligent person on this plant Earth (Atleast I believe so..)..
In all such situations where a devotee thinks whether to DO it or NOT DO IT...
SrilaPrabupada gave one simple solution... "In case of doubt , simply dont do it"
and when we try to understnd this simple advice ,we can find the huge importance.
In this example" Where we should eat Urad Dal or not."
we follow SrilPrabhuapda and dont eat it as we doubt if it is advisble to eat it or not.
CASE:By Absolute Truth , We can eat it.
Still Krishna and Srilaprabhhupada are happy as we did not eat Urad Dal for only reason that we didnt want to go against them.
CASE:By Asolute truth, We cannot eat it.
Krishna and SrilaPrabhupada are happy , as we understood and followed their instructions.
Whether to eat Urad dal is not a problem , just to b in Krishna CONC is the most important thing.
NOTE:Above statements are written from my own understnding after reading SrilaPrabhupada's books.
Hare krsna !!!!
Dandavat Pranaam,AGTSP
I guess most of us are on the same track but with a few differences in opinion.we have been saying the same thing but in a different manner.The initial question was reg. masoor dal and the discussion has deviated to other things but all constructive discussion is always welcome.I wld like to summarise my thoughts based on the opinions and discussion in this thread:
Vaishnavas are prasadeatarians.We eat only what Krishna eats.The simple idea is to keep Krishna in the centre of our life.So why do somethng which Krishna does not like?
Bonafide acharyas are the representatives of Krishna.Their words are never to be taken for granted.If they have prescribed a way of life for us to go back to Godhead we better follow it without speculating or giving our own opinions.
Reg. new people being scared of taking up bhakti coz of these restrictions:
As i said previously our intention is not to change the dietary habbits of people but to spread Chaitanya Mahaprabhu's mercy.Once a person is attracted to Krishna everythng else follows.Everyone agrees to this.
But it is obvious that you cannot keep the dietary restrictions hidden for long.What has worked for me is not to unduly stress on what CAN't be eaten.If anyone asks tell that we have decided to dedicate our life to Krishna & we only eat prasad.99% of Hindus are aware that food offered to God cannot have onion & garlic in it.
Never insist on them to giveup onion & garlic or masoor dal etc. Do not despice others bcoz they eat onion garlic or even meat etc.BUT plz be strict with yourself without appearing fanatical abt it.Finally everyone has a right to choose their way of life-u can try to make ur friends devotees without changing ur vaishnava lifestyle or compromising on the instructions of Acharyas.If you are unable to change others-it is still fine-pray for them-prayers of devotees have great effect
and also abt 100% ppl eatng onion & garlic and so how we can ask them to give up: again we dnt ask them to give up anythng-just ask them to chant.I feel it is very nice to be worried about changing the ways of the entire world -if Krishna desires it will happen.Krishna sent Srila Prabhupada to the country of meat-eaters and from there Prabhupada established ISKCON with all these rules and regulations.If people whose staple diet is meat (read Beef) can change their lives why cant we Indians do it? Loving attitude of devotees along with the Maha-Mantra can do wonders.Just have faith in Krishna.If nothing else works for ur friends,relatives etc.thank Krishna for showing you the path back to Godhead.As Krishna has said in Bhagvad Gita Chpter 7.TEXT 19
bahunam janmanam ante
jnanavan mam prapadyate
vasudevah sarvam iti
sa mahatma su-durlabhah
TRANSLATION
After many births and deaths, he who is actually in knowledge surrenders unto Me, knowing Me to be the cause of all causes and all that is. Such a great soul is very rare.
Rejoice-Krishna's mercy is on you-just continue to please Him no matter what the world says.
Finally coming back to the original topic of masoor dal-I avoid it coz I have been told so by senior Vaishnavas.Also I am not going to venture abt giving reasons to avoid it.It has made no diffrence in my lifestyle since it is not even a staple diet-all the more easier for me to give up :).
With this I pull out of this discussion.Plz forgive me if I offended anyone -did not intend any offence.
HariHaribol
YS
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Hare i am giving my presence that we are fighting that to stop eating the masoor daal because it is equal to eat meat. But NO body know in the Air we daily eats a millions of trillion of live becterias which we can not sees with this two eyes.
Making an arguement on only vegetables is doing waste of pricious time. We must have to do arguments on with the belongings to shri krisana shri mad Bagwat Geeta and on the Bhaktas of Krishana. I avoid my self from this unuseful argument. Hari Hari Bol...
I feel sometimes it is difficult for new comers to understand and digest all these things like how can a high protein rich can be a non veg food. I do not know about Masoor dal which was the original question posted by mataji but definitely Onion and Garlic is prohibited as these vegetables are in the mode of passion and ignorance respectively.
Many new comers read these blogs and may feel it is very difficult to follow Krishna Counciousness. Actually KC is about controlling our senses and engaging them in Krishna's service. As Srila Prabhupada said sense control starts with control of food we eat. So ideally a devotee should eat only Krishna Prasadam and we cannot offer anything to Krishna which He does not like. So we should not offer anything which has Onion and garlic(all devotees know this). Firstly we should chant 16 rounds and read Prabhupada's books, do services in the temple as per our capacity and relish Krishna prasadam with joy. Automatically when devotee gradually advances in Krishna Counciousness he will not like to eat onion and garlic. it happens automatically.. so as mentioned in some post about fabricated stories .. i feel even if you do not believe in stories it is advisable to follow the footsteps of great acharyas and not induldge in mental concoctions about anything. May Prabhupada and Chaithanya Mahaprabhu be merciful to us..
Hari Bol..
Many friend replied to me when i send your message in this topic by saying, over 90% Indians eat garlic, onion and masoor dal so would they have to give up this to pray Krishna because they already eating all of this since Krishna time???????? almost 100% except Hare Krishna movement followers they all eat massor dal so are we eating meat and how would the Hare Krishna movement going to tell of of this people that you all eating meat by eating masoor dal??????? Finally they says over 40% all Indians cannot read so what you read, they may not take it as it true and over 99% of all religious leaders and Pundits never tell 99% of Indians about this teaching?
This is where conflict, disagreement, arguements and rest follows so i always says every single religion on our planet forbids something and something so here in this field you have chance to follow if you wish but never to say you must stop it. First learn to crawl, learn to walk, walk on one direction, if you think it is for you, adopt it, finally if you don't like it, you could always try to learn it again. In Srilaprebhupada speak he always said, you should not eat cow and giving reasons why not but he have said, about meat which could be seen on videos we have of him so he never said never do this.
Hare Krishna
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