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What is the root cause of human suffering as per Bhagvad Gita?

Posted by Jay on March 5, 2016 at 4:54pm in Krishna

The Keys areas I want the answers on the following:

> The Holocaust - Millions died, the victims were all innocent

> The Mid East Wars - Sadaam Hussein and Gadafi eliminated, but since then hundreds of thousands have dies and millions are suffering.

> Africa - The people from this continent are suffering for centuries

How does our scriptures explain this? Will really appreciate some input on this

also will appreciate it with reference to Bhagavad Gita

Haribol

Jay

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  • KUBER BHAKT March 9, 2016 at 12:17pm

    the root cause of suffering from BG the 2nd chapter and mentioned several times by Srila Prabhupada is mistakening material body as spirit soul.  when this happens we say hes my enemy he did this to me he did that to me and my community hence I will kill all of them. we will take revenge this is the root cause, the BAAP of all problems bake devotees have explained everything

    • 08f8vv3agtg3n > KUBER BHAKT March 9, 2016 at 10:20pm
      Dear Sinful Prabhu ji,

      Hare Krishna! The Lord God said," Whenever there is irreligion. Whenever the demons and miscreants harass or kill my devotees. I will descend millennium after millennium to restore the principles of religion, destroy the demons and miscreants. Protect my devotees. " In short, the Lord God Hari will not allow the world to be run by rogues and hoodlums disguised as saviors while his devotees suffer. He will come with all his entourage and paraphernalia. In fact, the Lord God is already here. Lol! .

      Haribol always,

      krsnaraja melvin
  • 08f8vv3agtg3n March 9, 2016 at 6:01am

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  • ved pathak March 8, 2016 at 4:14pm
    Hare Krishna Prabhuji,
    First of all I would like to welcome you for asking quite a good quality question. In B.G Lord Krishna has already stated, I dont do anything for anybody (right or wrong), what they get is their own past karma (Prarabdh). I have same mercy for all, But I put special mercy on those who serve me and love me so much.
    First of all how did you come to know all of them were innocent? Are you with them in their past lives? Or Do you remember your past life? We can not remember our past life, but what karma (seeds) we have sowed in our past life we have to accept in this life or next life. These all are our karma's result, why we are suffering? why we are happy?
    The child or person killed in that way, must have done something wrong with some other living entities so they got the result in this birth. Child must be innocent in this birth but what about his past birth karma, he must have killed someone in their childhood.
    If your read B.G you will come to know, nobody kill nobody, our souls are eternal. In BG Chapter 2 Shloka 13.
    Dehino smin yatha dehe, kaumaram yauvnam jara
    Tatha dehantara praptir, dhiras tatra na muhayati.
    As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a change.

    Hare Krishna.
    Jai Sril. Prabhupad
    • GopalKrishna Das > ved pathak March 8, 2016 at 6:23pm

      Beginningless Karma is the root cause of all suffering. It is out of our domain to understand that. 

  • 08f8vv3agtg3n March 8, 2016 at 8:07am

    The root cause of human suffering

    In the most private spaces of each person's inner conscious life, a deep dissatisfaction is lurking, a nagging sense that life is somehow out of kilter, misaligned, not quite as it should be.

    No matter how rich or secure or successful a person may be, a fundamental dissatisfaction still persists. The reasons for that dissatisfaction are plain. Everything a human being hopes for is in some sense imperfect, disappointing, or hollow. In the end we all die, which is the ultimate disappointment.

    At the same time, surely there are things that every person, no matter how poor or wretched, can be sincerely grateful for. Some things bring more joy than pain, even if the joy is tinged with grief, and even if those things are lost at death.

    To renounce desire is not a humane response to the fundamental dissatisfaction, even if the pursuit of desire really were the cause of pain and frustration. It seems that a characteristic of all living things is that they grasp relentlessly after survival and opportunity.

    Paradoxically, by facing the emptiness and by surrendering completely to its inevitability, we come to deep peace and no longer suffer.

    Many human needs are rooted in biology. Those obviously shouldn't be denied or trivialized. Pain is a fact. We feel pain or grief from loss. Desire is part of what makes us vital.

    In any case, disassociating from desire can never actually relieve suffering, because the presence of pain and the lack of pleasure are not what causes suffering.

    First of all, pain is not necessarily a synonym for suffering. We can't deny or escape pain, but we can be free from suffering by changing how we relate to the fundamental dissatisfaction.

    The fundamental dissatisfaction is an unquenchable thirst that is a side effect of human cognition itself, due to being sentient in the physical world.

    We can conceive of a perfectly round circle or a perfectly straight line, but those never exist in the physical world. Nothing in the physical world ever lines up exactly with our inner concepts. How we respond to the experience of that misalignment is what matters.

    The mistake that leads to suffering is the simple delusion that the fundamental dissatisfaction can be extinguished by gaining more pleasure or feeling less pain or, in other words, by getting more of what we want.

    The root cause of suffering is that we unrelentingly struggle to get rid of the fundamental dissatisfaction by means of the fulfillment of our desires, and yet that dissatisfaction sticks to us as a perpetual, unanswerable craving.

    It can be difficult to realize that the fundamental dissatisfaction even exists, because it is veiled by our restless struggle to get rid of it. Once we realize that it exists, we're too horrified to accept that it really is unquenchable.

    Paradoxically, by facing the emptiness and by surrendering completely to its inevitability, we come to deep peace and no longer suffer.

    Pain is natural and inevitable, and all animals feel it, but the condition of suffering is unnecessary.

    Michael Webb, April, 2006

     

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  • 08f8vv3agtg3n March 8, 2016 at 8:04am

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    Bharat March 6, 2016 at 11:31am

    Hare Krsna

    Firstly to say that "the victims were all innocent" is a very strong statement. How did anyone arrive at this conclusion ?

    Almost nobody in this world is innocent. Scriptures not only explain this but also give us a way out.

    Krsna says " From the highest planet in the material world down to the lowest, all are places of misery wherein repeated birth and death take place. But one who attains to My abode, O son of Kunti, never takes birth again.BG 8.16

    Krsna also says about this world as "dukhalayam ashashvatam" in BG 8.15. This world is filled with miseries, suffering, death etc. It is foolish to think of enjoying temporary craving of tongue and sex.

    Whether it is man made war or natural disaster, it is simply means to the inevitable truth of "death". One should be interested in how to get out of cycle of birth and death. That is told in BG.

    Krsna says " One who knows the transcendental nature of My appearance and activities does not, upon leaving the body, take his birth again in this material world, but attains My eternal abode, O Arjuna." (BG 4.9)
    So even if it war or natural disaster If only I am Krsna conscious then after death I will unite with the family of Krsna. If I am not Krsna conscious then even if everything is alright, I will still die and be caught in cycle of birth and death.

    Hare Krsna

  • 08f8vv3agtg3n March 6, 2016 at 4:37am
    Hare Krishna,

    Without reference to Bhagavad-gita, I would like to share my views on this issue. 1) Millions of innocent lives died in the Holocaust. My View: Hitler in his past life was a devotee of Christ. He avenged the death of Christ who was crucified by the Jews by annihilating the Jew population in return.

    2) Saddam Hussein and Omar Ghadaffi's deaths and Mid-East Wars. My View: Nations interested in black gold will do anything to occupy the lands in the mid-east rich with black gold. That:s why there is war. Saddam and Ghaddafi were killed because the United States of America and her allied nations want them killed.

    3) Countless suffer and die in Africa. My view: Africa is a land where humans compete with wild animals. The people there are always engaged in tribal wars. Africa has lands not suitable to grow plants, grains and fruit trees. So, millions there are poor, malnourished. Many starve to death. Sickness and famine are prevalent in Africa.

    Om namo bhagavate vasudevaya

    krsnaraja melvin
  • 3ruf705dlznca March 6, 2016 at 3:53am
    SB 12.2.1 — Śukadeva Gosvāmī said: Then, O King, religion, truthfulness, cleanliness, tolerance, mercy, duration of life, physical strength and memory will all diminish day by day because of the powerful influence of the Age of Kali.
    SB 12.2.2 — In Kali-yuga, wealth alone will be considered the sign of a man’s good birth, proper behavior and fine qualities. And law and justice will be applied only on the basis of one’s power.
    SB 12.2.3 — Men and women will live together merely because of superficial attraction, and success in business will depend on deceit. Womanliness and manliness will be judged according to one’s expertise in sex, and a man will be known as a brāhmaṇa just by his wearing a thread.
    SB 12.2.4 — A person’s spiritual position will be ascertained merely according to external symbols, and on that same basis people will change from one spiritual order to the next. A person’s propriety will be seriously questioned if he does not earn a good living. And one who is very clever at juggling words will be considered a learned scholar.
    SB 12.2.5 — A person will be judged unholy if he does not have money, and hypocrisy will be accepted as virtue. Marriage will be arranged simply by verbal agreement, and a person will think he is fit to appear in public if he has merely taken a bath.
    SB 12.2.6 — A sacred place will be taken to consist of no more than a reservoir of water located at a distance, and beauty will be thought to depend on one’s hairstyle. Filling the belly will become the goal of life, and one who is audacious will be accepted as truthful. He who can maintain a family will be regarded as an expert man, and the principles of religion will be observed only for the sake of reputation.
    SB 12.2.7 — As the earth thus becomes crowded with a corrupt population, whoever among any of the social classes shows himself to be the strongest will gain political power.
    SB 12.2.8 — Losing their wives and properties to such avaricious and merciless rulers, who will behave no better than ordinary thieves, the citizens will flee to the mountains and forests.
    SB 12.2.9 — Harassed by famine and excessive taxes, people will resort to eating leaves, roots, flesh, wild honey, fruits, flowers and seeds. Struck by drought, they will become completely ruined.
    SB 12.2.10 — The citizens will suffer greatly from cold, wind, heat, rain and snow. They will be further tormented by quarrels, hunger, thirst, disease and severe anxiety.
    SB 12.2.11 — The maximum duration of life for human beings in Kali-yuga will become fifty years.
    SB 12.2.12-16 — By the time the Age of Kali ends, the bodies of all creatures will be greatly reduced in size, and the religious principles of followers of varṇāśrama will be ruined. The path of the Vedas will be completely forgotten in human society, and so-called religion will be mostly atheistic. The kings will mostly be thieves, the occupations of men will be stealing, lying and needless violence, and all the social classes will be reduced to the lowest level of śūdras. Cows will be like goats, spiritual hermitages will be no different from mundane houses, and family ties will extend no further than the immediate bonds of marriage. Most plants and herbs will be tiny, and all trees will appear like dwarf śamī trees. Clouds will be full of lightning, homes will be devoid of piety, and all human beings will have become like asses. At that time, the Supreme Personality of Godhead will appear on the earth. Acting with the power of pure spiritual goodness, He will rescue eternal religion.
    SB 12.2.17 — Lord Viṣṇu — the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the spiritual master of all moving and nonmoving living beings, and the Supreme Soul of all — takes birth to protect the principles of religion and to relieve His saintly devotees from the reactions of material work.
    SB 12.2.18 — Lord Kalki will appear in the home of the most eminent brāhmaṇa of Śambhala village, the great soul Viṣṇuyaśā.
    SB 12.2.19-20 — Lord Kalki, the Lord of the universe, will mount His swift horse Devadatta and, sword in hand, travel over the earth exhibiting His eight mystic opulences and eight special qualities of Godhead. Displaying His unequaled effulgence and riding with great speed, He will kill by the millions those thieves who have dared dress as kings.
    SB 12.2.21 — After all the impostor kings have been killed, the residents of the cities and towns will feel the breezes carrying the most sacred fragrance of the sandalwood paste and other decorations of Lord Vāsudeva, and their minds will thereby become transcendentally pure.
    SB 12.2.22 — When Lord Vāsudeva, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, appears in their hearts in His transcendental form of goodness, the remaining citizens will abundantly repopulate the earth.
    SB 12.2.23 — When the Supreme Lord has appeared on earth as Kalki, the maintainer of religion, Satya-yuga will begin, and human society will bring forth progeny in the mode of goodness.
    SB 12.2.24 — When the moon, the sun and Bṛhaspatī are together in the constellation Karkaṭa, and all three enter simultaneously into the lunar mansion Puṣyā — at that exact moment the age of Satya, or Kṛta, will begin.
    SB 12.2.25 — Thus I have described all the kings — past, present and future — who belong to the dynasties of the sun and the moon.
    SB 12.2.26 — From your birth up to the coronation of King Nanda, 1,150 years will pass.
    SB 12.2.27-28 — Of the seven stars forming the constellation of the seven sages, Pulaha and Kratu are the first to rise in the night sky. If a line running north and south were drawn through their midpoint, whichever of the lunar mansions this line passes through is said to be the ruling asterism of the constellation for that time. The Seven Sages will remain connected with that particular lunar mansion for one hundred human years. Currently, during your lifetime, they are situated in the nakṣatra called Maghā.
    SB 12.2.29 — The Supreme Lord, Viṣṇu, is brilliant like the sun and is known as Kṛṣṇa. When He returned to the spiritual sky, Kali entered this world, and people then began to take pleasure in sinful activities.
    SB 12.2.30 — As long as Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa, the husband of the goddess of fortune, touched the earth with His lotus feet, Kali was powerless to subdue this planet.
    SB 12.2.31 — When the constellation of the seven sages is passing through the lunar mansion Maghā, the Age of Kali begins. It comprises twelve hundred years of the demigods.
    SB 12.2.32 — When the great sages of the Saptarṣi constellation pass from Maghā to Pūrvāsāḍhā, Kali will have his full strength, beginning from King Nanda and his dynasty.
    SB 12.2.33 — Those who scientifically understand the past declare that on the very day that Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa departed for the spiritual world, the influence of the Age of Kali began.
    SB 12.2.34 — After the one thousand celestial years of Kali-yuga, the Satya-yuga will manifest again. At that time the minds of all men will become self-effulgent.
    SB 12.2.35 — Thus I have described the royal dynasty of Manu, as it is known on this earth. One can similarly study the history of the vaiśyas, śūdras and brāhmaṇas living in the various ages.
    SB 12.2.36 — These personalities, who were great souls, are now known only by their names. They exist only in accounts from the past, and only their fame remains on the earth.
    SB 12.2.37 — Devāpi, the brother of Mahārāja Śāntanu, and Maru, the descendant of Ikṣvāku, both possess great mystic strength and are living even now in the village of Kalāpa.
    SB 12.2.38 — At the end of the Age of Kali, these two kings, having received instruction directly from the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Vāsudeva, will return to human society and reestablish the eternal religion of man, characterized by the divisions of varṇa and āśrama, just as it was before.
    SB 12.2.39 — The cycle of four ages — Satya, Tretā, Dvāpara and Kali — continues perpetually among living beings on this earth, repeating the same general sequence of events.
    SB 12.2.40 — My dear King Parīkṣit, all these kings I have described, as well as all other human beings, come to this earth and stake their claims, but ultimately they all must give up this world and meet their destruction.
    SB 12.2.41 — Even though a person’s body may now have the designation “king,” in the end its name will be “worms,” “stool” or “ashes.” What can a person who injures other living beings for the sake of his body know about his own self-interest, since his activities are simply leading him to hell?
    SB 12.2.42 — [The materialistic king thinks:] “This unbounded earth was held by my predecessors and is now under my sovereignty. How can I arrange for it to remain in the hands of my sons, grandsons and other descendants?”
    SB 12.2.43 — Although the foolish accept the body made of earth, water and fire as “me” and this earth as “mine,” in every case they have ultimately abandoned both their body and the earth and passed away into oblivion.
    SB 12.2.44 — My dear King Parīkṣit, all these kings who tried to enjoy the earth by their strength were reduced by the force of time to nothing more than historical accounts.
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