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All glories to srila Prabhupada
If we try and talk about God, God realisation and things from scriptures to people in our school or to someone whom we know, is that also considered preaching?
If it is should we do it, even if we are not free from lust, anger, greed,etc?
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in general materialistic environment like school,college,workplace you're sure to find envious people who'd challenge you in all sorts of ways.are you that much read and confident in scriptures to answer them.does your anger not rise when answering such questions?
if you are not confident in scriptures and get easily irritated then your preaching is going to be highly ineffective.
Not answering but only talking and not to people who are envious.
I will tell you one incident, one day I was talking to one of my classmates and from what I can remember we were talking about kalki avatar, so I said just in the conversation that kalki avatar will appear on a horse on the end of kaliyug then he said that he won't be on a horse, when I asked why, he said that because at that time there we will be no horse due to kaliyug being at its end so lord kalki ant GET ANY HORSE to ride, I was shocked to hear that and then I said that he Is god he will not take birth like an ordinary person , then he said that God DOES take BIRTH. so I am talikg. About such things, like if I tell them (from what I have read and heard from scriptures and from devotees) I was aking whether such things aould be considered preaching. And if we should engage in them or not. He is not envious of god or anything, atleast that's what I think. Also his name is krishna.
That is not preaching. That is discussing information.
Preaching means to induce someone to chant the name of the Lord. That can be done only when you are chanting yourself.
Likewise to induce someone to give up meat eating, intoxication, gambling and illicit sex.
So we can do that right! Like I was talking to someone whose father (and my teacher) is a very great devotee of lord hanuman ji, about how even many "great" scientist believe in god, so I wanted to tell them one samll incident of srila Prabhupada which I headed from HG amrendra prabhu, so this question than arises in my mind whether I should do that or not, since I am not a pure devotee vaishnav, so if it is considered preaching then k shouldn't do it.
Yes it is directly following limb of bhakti. You can do it.
When you hear from devotee like Amarendra Prabhu or Amogh Lila Prabhu, it is first and most important limb of dehotional service called sravanam. When you repeat what you have heard to someone else it bevomes kirtanam. It is directly bhakti.
Devotional service
Ok prabhuji thank you
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Hare Krsna
What is considered preaching?
sa vai puṁsāṁ paro dharmo
yato bhaktir adhokṣaje
ahaituky apratihatā
yayātmā suprasīdati
The supreme occupation [dharma] for all humanity is that by which men can attain to loving devotional service unto the transcendent Lord. Such devotional service must be unmotivated and uninterrupted to completely satisfy the self.(SB 1.2.6)
Any activity that informs / inspires / enlightens / enables / empowers / contributes to a living being to render unmovitvated uninterrupted loving devotional service to Sri Krsna is preaching. The effect it has on individual is very important.
Recently there was one individual in these forums who was claiming to be God, and labelling others as associates of God. Seemingly such talk is about God. But the effect it had on others was like vomiting. That is not preaching, even though topic is seemingly God.
On the other hand pure devotees don't need to do any particular activity to preach. Just by their presence they inspire Krsna consciousness. And certainly by any/every activity they inspire the same
gangara parasa hoile pascate pavan
darsane pavitra koro—ei tomara gun
After bathing in the waters of the sacred Ganges many times, one becomes purified, but just by the sight of you (Vaishnava) , the fallen souls are purified. This is your great power.- Narottaman das
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Hare Krishna Bharat Prabhu ji
Please accept my humble obeisances
If we scrutunizingly study the Srimad-Bhagavatam then we can get a fair indication of the times we are living in.
In the Srimad-Bhagavatam Second Canto Chapter Seven, " Scheduled Incarnations with Specific Functions " Verse 38 PURPORT, It is mentioned:
" It is stated herein that the governmental power of society in the Kali-yuga will be passed over to the uncultured, godless laborer classes of men, and thus the nrdevas (or the ministers of the government) will be the vrsalas, or the uncultured lower-class men of society. No one can expect any peace and prosperity in a human society full of uncultured lower classes of men. "
Now, there could be thousands of years separating us from that point in time when these conditions are ripe in human society. Isn't it?
All of us are most certainly under illusion.
However, the acarya should be considered above all illusion and what does he say, " The symptoms of such uncultured social animals are already in ' vogue ', and it is the duty of the leaders of men to take note of it and try to reform the social order by introducing the principles of twice-born men trained in the science of God consciousness.
If we check the dictionary meaning of the word 'vogue' it means the prevailing fashion or style at a particular time.
Therefore, according to Srila Prabhupada the present conditions are ripe for none other than the Kalki avatara. We cannot expect a Buddha incarnation also who bewilders the minds of atheists when they are flying unseen in the sky on well-built rockets prepared by the great scientist Maya because according to Srila Jiva Gosvami, the Buddha incarnation mentioned is in a different Kali age as mentioned in PURPORT by Srila Prabhupada.
Now, I would like to ask you that the person who you said claimed to be God, what did he preach?
because in the degraded condition of human society, when the Lord incarnates as the Kalki avatara, there can be no preaching, as He kills all the demonic without mercy.
However, the devotees of the Lord are more merciful than the Lord. So we should try to preach to everyone, Jaare Dekho Taare Kaho Krishna Upadesha following the orders of the Yug avatara of this age Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu.
I hope I have not offended anyone.
Your servant
Krishna das
Hare Krsna
the person who you said claimed to be God, what did he preach?
He didn't. That's not preaching at all. That's bogus, even though someone may be quoting from here & there. Completely bogus !
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