I'm inquiring this to clear some confusion I have concerning the fate of Jay and Vijaya after their third birth as Sisupala and Dantavakra. Before their fall because of the curse of the four Kumaras, Lord Vishnu mitigated their sorrow by assuring them that they will be reunited with Him soon after the curse has run its course. (SB: 3.16.26) How did Jay and Vijaya reunited with Lord VIshnu? Were they restored to the original personal form or did they merge into the body of Lord Krishna because in the Srimad Bhagavatam: 7.1.14, Maharaja Yudhisthira saw Sisupala merge in the body of the Supreme Lord, Krishna after Sisupala was killed by the Lord? Could it be that it is the result of the offense committed at the lotus feet of Goddess Lakhsmi by stopping Her at the gate while Lord Vishnu was sleeping (SB:3.16.30)? Or is it all pre-ordanined by the Lord Himself for His pleasure? Maharaja Yudhisthira also inquired about this in particular because there is no way of any liberated souls falling down from Vaikuntha but Jay and Vijaya somehow did? My question, was it because of the Supreme will of Lord Vishnu or because of the offense committed to Goddess Lakhsmi or because of the curse of the four Kumaras? If it is either one of the cause or all of it, do Jay and Vijaya deserve to lose their identity by granting the merging of their soul into the body of the Lord? Please kindly clarify me on this? 

Hare Krishna.

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            • Hare Krishna,

              Please pardon me if I misinterpreted your statement. It wasn't my intention. Just trying to understand the finer points of Srimad Bhagavatam. You've been of great help. Thank you for your reponse and your time. I really appreciate it. 


            • Indeed by killing them Lord is infact Lord is relieving them of their sins and giving them mukti.

              Not all of the other jivas they are conditional soul.

              I am speaking about the nitya siddhas and eternal servants of Lord. Lord punished chastaised Hiranyakashyapa , ravaan shishupala for a reason just to remind them of their original status and take them back. Infact it is Lord's mercy killing for them. Forgetfulness was the one which was making them behave recklaceless and inhumanly to brahminas ( jaya Vijaya case) Lord chastaisement and mercy killing and giving them back their original position is Lord's mercy.

              Others all demons like Kamsa, Bhaumasura, and others deserved that punishment.

      • Sevak

        Hare Krsna 

        Lord Sri Krsna has clearly said the following in Srimad BHagavad Gita about his permanent abode or the spiritual world 

        na tad bhāsayate sūryo
        na śaśāṅko na pāvakaḥ
        yad gatvā na nivartante
        tad dhāma paramaṁ mama

        That supreme abode of Mine is not illumined by the sun or moon, nor by fire or electricity. Those who reach it never return to this material world. ( BG 15.6)

        Hare Krsna 

        • Hare Krishna,

          Thank you. 

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