I would be interested to hear your thoughts on the nirguṇī sants of the Bhakti movement, which began in the 15th century.
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I would be interested to hear your thoughts on the nirguṇī sants of the Bhakti movement, which began in the 15th century.
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In Vaishnavism we are more interested in Sagun upasana of Lord Sri Krishna.
So, if you have anything to ask about Sri Krishna and His devotees I would be glad to answer.
Hare Krishna
All right! What is nirguṇa sākāra upāsanā?
gunas are ( satva rajas and tamo gunas.)
These gunas are material gunas.( satva rajas and tamo gunas) ofcourse Krishna is nirguna if u say these gunas they are not gunas of Krishna as He is above all these.
Sri krishna posesses transcendental gunas.. toh unko NIRGUNA toh nahi kaha jaasakta
Kaise guna hai Sri Krishna ke-
wealth
fame
beauty
strength
and renunciation ( in full)
So he is Saguna With all 6 attributes in full capacity
and He has a beautiful form
So he is called Saguna and Sakara Swaroopa
Yeah, you got the point. Can those sākāra svaroopa can be called as niraguṇa and saguṇa at a same time?
depends on the context.. Sri Krishna is not at all material made.
His body is spiritual
IF his body is spiritual then how can you say or compare with mateiral gunas?
Nirguana ( gun rahit ) hi hai woh lekin woh unke gun spiritual gun hai toh hum unko saguna sakaar hi bol sakte hai.
ab jo nirgun tum maan rahe ho ( satva rajas and tamo guna) veh toh in guno se pare hai. toh unko bolne ki bhi avashakta nahi hai na?
Hari Hari.
Hare Krishna
What is the difference between sagun Upasana and nirgun ?
Sagun is with form. Nigun is without form or formless
We understand that Krishna can be worshiped in 3 forms.. 1. formless nature ( which is spread all over Sarvavyapi form)
2. the personal form ( like Lord Rama and Lord Krishna or Vishnu has a form) Which is also called Bhagwan
3. Parmatma form ( Kshirodakshaya Vishnu located in the heart of all living and non living entities).
But in Vaishnavism we are not much interested in the formless nature of Lord.. we know our Lord has a beautiful form and we love to see Lord in vigraha roopa also.
the formless nature of Lord is also there but then it is lacking attributes.. features and it is difficult to understand and make a focus on.. if there is no form for God then we cannot focus on it..
it will generate to the false concepts of non idolatory and monoism.
Hare Krishna
Oh so nigun is bharmjyoti? Mayavadi philosophy?
yes