Dear devotee Hare Krsna, The nature of the material world is that its full of jivas who want to be supreme controlers. There is always envy and constant competition. Srila Prabhupada would often say it is a place of the cheaters and the cheated.
So we came to this place by our own free will to enjoy seperately from Krsna. Do you like it? NO. Even we don't want any trouble it will come to us. Even the pure devotees face so much persecution at the hands of the ignorant here. Depending completely on Krsna and taking shelter of His lotus feet the devotee does not become like them. The dogs may bark but the devotee does not get down and bark back.
I may be surounded by liers, cheaters and hypocrites and struggling to be Krsna conscious but I don't give up. You may be inocent but this is the prison house and in prison you can't expect saintly behaviour here. Some of the prisoners are on parol and are now engaged in devotional service, chanting , wearing devotee dress, tilaka and neck beads and may also be leading the other prisoners who are also on parol. They are not perfect but it may be all the help we can get in the prison of the material world. Being here in the prison we don't blame the other prisoners who are so cruel and heartless sometimes because we know they are all mad. That is the influence of this place.
Krsna out His mercy and love comes here to this place to help us and show us the way of divine love. We are very fallen and He is the deliverer of the fallen. Patita pavana. His eternal associates also desire to come here along with Krsna to serve Him in this mission to give the prisoners the opportunity to reform. That is how we Know about Krsna, His devotees and the world out side the prison.
Only They are completely inocent and Their inocence is eternal. And fortunately our guilt is temporary. After you return to the real world outside the prison no one will ever know you ever came here. Nor do they ever care to know. Hare Krsna.
We should not be worried about our past offenses etc. read the following from BG As It Is and you will be set free..
Chapter 18. Conclusion--The Perfection of Renunciation
TEXT 66
sarva-dharman parityajya
mam ekam saranam vraja
aham tvam sarva-papebhyo
moksayisyami ma sucah
TRANSLATION
Abandon all varieties of religion and just surrender unto Me. I shall deliver you from all sinful reaction. Do not fear.
PURPORT
The Lord has described various kinds of knowledge, processes of religion, knowledge of the Supreme Brahman, knowledge of the Supersoul, knowledge of the different types of orders and statuses of social life, knowledge of the renounced order of life, knowledge of nonattachment, sense and mind control, meditation, etc. He has described in so many ways different types of religion. Now, in summarizing Bhagavad-gita, the Lord says that Arjuna should give up all the processes that have been explained to him; he should simply surrender to Krsna. That surrender will save him from all kinds of sinful reactions, for the Lord personally promises to protect him.
In the Eighth Chapter it was said that only one who has become free from all sinful reactions can take to the worship of Lord Krsna. Thus one may think that unless he is free from all sinful reactions he cannot take to the surrendering process. To such doubts it is here said that even if one is not free from all sinful reactions, simply by the process of surrendering to Sri Krsna he is automatically freed. There is no need of strenuous effort to free oneself from sinful reactions. One should unhesitatingly accept Krsna as the supreme savior of all living entities. With faith and love, one should surrender unto Him.
According to the devotional process, one should simply accept such religious principles that will lead ultimately to the devotional service of the Lord. One may perform a particular occupational duty according to his position in the social order, but if by executing his duty one does not come to the point of Krsna consciousness, all his activities are in vain. Anything that does not lead to the perfectional stage of Krsna consciousness should be avoided. One should be confident that in all circumstances Krsna will protect him from all difficulties. There is no need of thinking how one should keep the body and soul together. Krsna will see to that. One should always think himself helpless and should consider Krsna the only basis for his progress in life. As soon as one seriously engages himself in devotional service to the Lord in full Krsna consciousness, at once he becomes freed from all contamination of material nature. There are different processes of religion and purificatory processes by cultivation of knowledge, meditation in the mystic yoga system, etc., but one who surrenders unto Krsna does not have to execute so many methods. That simple surrender unto Krsna will save him from unnecessarily wasting time. One can thus make all progress at once and be freed from all sinful reaction.
One should be attracted by the beautiful vision of Krsna. His name is Krsna because He is all-attractive. One who becomes attracted by the beautiful, all-powerful, omnipotent vision of Krsna is fortunate. There are different kinds of transcendentalists--some of them are attached to the impersonal Brahman vision, some of them are attracted by the Supersoul feature, etc., but one who is attracted to the personal feature of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and, above all, one who is attracted by the Supreme Personality of Godhead as Krsna Himself, is the most perfect transcendentalist. In other words, devotional service to Krsna, in full consciousness, is the most confidential part of knowledge, and this is the essence of the whole Bhagavad-gita. Karma-yogis, empiric philosophers, mystics, and devotees are all called transcendentalists, but one who is a pure devotee is the best of all. The particular words used here, ma sucah, "Don't fear, don't hesitate, don't worry," are very significant. One may be perplexed as to how one can give up all kinds of religious forms and simply surrender unto Krsna, but such worry is useless.
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Dear devotee Hare Krsna, The nature of the material world is that its full of jivas who want to be supreme controlers. There is always envy and constant competition. Srila Prabhupada would often say it is a place of the cheaters and the cheated.
So we came to this place by our own free will to enjoy seperately from Krsna. Do you like it? NO. Even we don't want any trouble it will come to us. Even the pure devotees face so much persecution at the hands of the ignorant here. Depending completely on Krsna and taking shelter of His lotus feet the devotee does not become like them. The dogs may bark but the devotee does not get down and bark back.
I may be surounded by liers, cheaters and hypocrites and struggling to be Krsna conscious but I don't give up. You may be inocent but this is the prison house and in prison you can't expect saintly behaviour here. Some of the prisoners are on parol and are now engaged in devotional service, chanting , wearing devotee dress, tilaka and neck beads and may also be leading the other prisoners who are also on parol. They are not perfect but it may be all the help we can get in the prison of the material world. Being here in the prison we don't blame the other prisoners who are so cruel and heartless sometimes because we know they are all mad. That is the influence of this place.
Krsna out His mercy and love comes here to this place to help us and show us the way of divine love. We are very fallen and He is the deliverer of the fallen. Patita pavana. His eternal associates also desire to come here along with Krsna to serve Him in this mission to give the prisoners the opportunity to reform. That is how we Know about Krsna, His devotees and the world out side the prison.
Only They are completely inocent and Their inocence is eternal. And fortunately our guilt is temporary. After you return to the real world outside the prison no one will ever know you ever came here. Nor do they ever care to know. Hare Krsna.
Jai Shri Krishna..
We should not be worried about our past offenses etc. read the following from BG As It Is and you will be set free..
Chapter 18. Conclusion--The Perfection of Renunciation
TEXT 66
sarva-dharman parityajya
mam ekam saranam vraja
aham tvam sarva-papebhyo
moksayisyami ma sucah
TRANSLATION
Abandon all varieties of religion and just surrender unto Me. I shall deliver you from all sinful reaction. Do not fear.
PURPORT
The Lord has described various kinds of knowledge, processes of religion, knowledge of the Supreme Brahman, knowledge of the Supersoul, knowledge of the different types of orders and statuses of social life, knowledge of the renounced order of life, knowledge of nonattachment, sense and mind control, meditation, etc. He has described in so many ways different types of religion. Now, in summarizing Bhagavad-gita, the Lord says that Arjuna should give up all the processes that have been explained to him; he should simply surrender to Krsna. That surrender will save him from all kinds of sinful reactions, for the Lord personally promises to protect him.
In the Eighth Chapter it was said that only one who has become free from all sinful reactions can take to the worship of Lord Krsna. Thus one may think that unless he is free from all sinful reactions he cannot take to the surrendering process. To such doubts it is here said that even if one is not free from all sinful reactions, simply by the process of surrendering to Sri Krsna he is automatically freed. There is no need of strenuous effort to free oneself from sinful reactions. One should unhesitatingly accept Krsna as the supreme savior of all living entities. With faith and love, one should surrender unto Him.
According to the devotional process, one should simply accept such religious principles that will lead ultimately to the devotional service of the Lord. One may perform a particular occupational duty according to his position in the social order, but if by executing his duty one does not come to the point of Krsna consciousness, all his activities are in vain. Anything that does not lead to the perfectional stage of Krsna consciousness should be avoided. One should be confident that in all circumstances Krsna will protect him from all difficulties. There is no need of thinking how one should keep the body and soul together. Krsna will see to that. One should always think himself helpless and should consider Krsna the only basis for his progress in life. As soon as one seriously engages himself in devotional service to the Lord in full Krsna consciousness, at once he becomes freed from all contamination of material nature. There are different processes of religion and purificatory processes by cultivation of knowledge, meditation in the mystic yoga system, etc., but one who surrenders unto Krsna does not have to execute so many methods. That simple surrender unto Krsna will save him from unnecessarily wasting time. One can thus make all progress at once and be freed from all sinful reaction.
One should be attracted by the beautiful vision of Krsna. His name is Krsna because He is all-attractive. One who becomes attracted by the beautiful, all-powerful, omnipotent vision of Krsna is fortunate. There are different kinds of transcendentalists--some of them are attached to the impersonal Brahman vision, some of them are attracted by the Supersoul feature, etc., but one who is attracted to the personal feature of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and, above all, one who is attracted by the Supreme Personality of Godhead as Krsna Himself, is the most perfect transcendentalist. In other words, devotional service to Krsna, in full consciousness, is the most confidential part of knowledge, and this is the essence of the whole Bhagavad-gita. Karma-yogis, empiric philosophers, mystics, and devotees are all called transcendentalists, but one who is a pure devotee is the best of all. The particular words used here, ma sucah, "Don't fear, don't hesitate, don't worry," are very significant. One may be perplexed as to how one can give up all kinds of religious forms and simply surrender unto Krsna, but such worry is useless.