State of soul when a person is unconscious for some time or during surgery or sleep

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Mohini Madhavi March 19, 2012 at 3:38pm

Hare Krishna dear Devotees, please accept my humble obeisances! all glories to Srila Prabhupada!

i heard that sleep is also like some type of death. our subtle body leaves gross body for some time and travels. It means soul also leaves :-O ???!

Then what about Yogis??? For example, Srila Haridas Thakur for some time remained dead and again became alive when he was beaten in the 22 market places and did not die.

Also the bed shits are considered contaminated just because of we for some times become dead. And when we see or touch the dead body we have to take shower.

i heard it in the lecture. if there any mistakes, please correct me!

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Mitu Nayak March 13, 2012 at 8:52pm

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- Alka > Mitu Nayak March 15, 2012 at 2:37pm
  
  Hare Krishna Srijon Prabhuji
  
  Can a soul go out of body during an un-conscious state ? I have heard from one devotee that during sleep, sometimes our subtle body (including mind,ego,intelligence) or rather I would say soul goes somewhere and make some impressions of some previous births or this birth and that's what we call as dream.
  
  Please share some knowledge regarding this.
  
  Thank you
  
  Hare Krishna
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    Sudipta Roy > Alka March 15, 2012 at 7:35pm
    
    Hare Krishna All devotees. Dandavat Pranam. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada
    
    The soul has two covering subtle and gross. subtle body consists of mind,intelligence and false ego and gross body consists of earth,air,water,fire,ether and fire. Now the soul is conscious and its symptoms is consciousness, which has three states.
    
    1.waking state
    
    In waking state (when we are not in sleep) the soul interact with the material phenomenon world through senses, five gross senses including mind . Thus we percieve the gross matter through our material senses and believe the world is real
    
    2.dream state during sleep
    
    In dream state the gross body which include senses go to rest and become temporarily inactive but the subtle body ( mind,intelligence,false ego) not become inactive , the soul identify itself with the mind then specially subconscious mind. As mind stores lots of impression from past lifetimes we dream of so many situation which we have never met in this life
    
    3.dreamless state
    
    In dreamless sleep state the gross as well as subtle body become inactive. The soul remains only but doesn't identify with anything.
    
    In no circumstances the soul get out of body except death.
    
    Your aspiring servant
    
    Hari Bol
    - Mitu Nayak > Sudipta Roy March 15, 2012 at 8:14pm
      
      When a person is in comma stage, does soul goes into 'dreamless state'?
      
      Hari bol!!
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        Sudipta Roy > Mitu Nayak March 16, 2012 at 1:34pm
        
        Hre Krishna Mataji. Dandavat Pranam. All glories to Srila Prabhupada
        
        In comma stage the body is not reacting or inactive , Its like the software is active but the device which is driven by the software is not working and damage. The soul may be in dream or dreamless state , we can't be sure beacuse the soul dwell in the subtle body in situation like coma, so it may be dream or dream less state.
        
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        Hari Bol
        
        Alka > Sudipta Roy March 16, 2012 at 3:47pm
        
        Hare Krishna prabhuji. Pranam
        
        Thanks for clarity.
        
        I have heard a story about a women in surgery who claims that she felt an "out of body experience"
        
        where she could actually re-collect after surgery is over as to what exactly happened during surgery like she was saying..
        
        "the doctor was on the left hand side , the nurse was on right hand side,
        
        the nurse went out of room to get something, what the doctor actually did , she could see etc.. She was like floating in the air above her own body etc.
        
        Can that really happen? Asking this just out of curiosity? What state of consciousness would it be?
        
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        Sudipta Roy > Alka March 16, 2012 at 4:43pm
        
        Hare Krishna Mataji. Dandavat Pranam. All glories to Srila Prabhupada
        
        yes this is a phenomenon called "near-death"/ "out-of-body" experience generally felt by patients during surgery or who has survived accident. Actually this out-of-body experience I have also felt many times during sleep. Its a feeling of floating around the top of the house and seeing all the rooms from top, its like you are not within the body. This phenomenon happened many times with me when I used to practise Hatha-Yoga 5-6 yrs back, all during sleep. After coming in KC I also felt it two times where I am getting out of my body.
        
        So we are not sure what happens in these situation, may be its due to totally absorb in the subtle body during sleep where we don't have any conception of gross body. And we go to a world of consciousness where we feel we are not in this world or out of body.
        
        Your aspiring Servant
        
        Hari Bol
        
        Alka > Sudipta Roy March 19, 2012 at 11:37am
        
        Hare Krishna Prabhuji
        
        Thanks for sharing your experience. Even I felt something similar while I was on anesthesia.
        
        So it seems that such phenomenon is not abnormal.
        
        Thank you again.
        
        Hari Bol
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      S > Sudipta Roy March 15, 2012 at 8:00pm
      
      Thanks for the clearer explanation Sudipta Roy Prabhu. Hari Bol!

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