janmādy asya yato ’nvayād itarataś cārtheṣv abhijñaḥ svarāṭ
tene brahma hṛdā ya ādi-kavaye muhyanti yat sūrayaḥ
tejo-vāri-mṛdāṁ yathā vinimayo yatra tri-sargo ’mṛṣā
dhāmnā svena sadā nirasta-kuhakaṁ satyaṁ paraṁ dhīmahi
O my Lord, Śrī Kṛṣṇa, son of Vasudeva, O all-pervading Personality of Godhead, I offer my respectful obeisances unto You. I meditate upon Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa because He is the Absolute Truth and the primeval cause of all causes of the creation, sustenance and destruction of the manifested universes. He is directly and indirectly conscious of all manifestations, and He is independent because there is no other cause beyond Him. It is He only who first imparted the Vedic knowledge unto the heart of Brahmājī, the original living being. By Him even the great sages and demigods are placed into illusion, as one is bewildered by the illusory representations of water seen in fire, or land seen on water. Only because of Him do the material universes, temporarily manifested by the reactions of the three modes of nature, appear factual, although they are unreal. I therefore meditate upon Him, Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa, who is eternally existent in the transcendental abode, which is forever free from the illusory representations of the material world. I meditate upon Him, for He is the Absolute Truth.
here my question is , lord is complete, independent in himself. then why lord needs to create these manifested universes. as it is mentioned above in underlined text tht he is the cause of all creation. why he creates all this?
it is written in the purport of this verse on vedabase, that
"All living beings, beginning from the first created being, Brahmā, down to the smallest ant, are individual living beings. And above Brahmā, there are even other living beings with individual capacities, and the Personality of Godhead is also a similar living being."
here it is said on one side tht brahma is frst original living being , on the other side it is said tht above brahma there r other living being., isn't it confusinng?
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One kind of mukti sayujya mukti, in which soul being merged into the existence or body of the Lord. then the counting is changed.in this way the existence of soul will be over.
The philosophy which suggests the above is called mayavada pholosophy which is bogus or incorrect or wrong or false.
Soul cannot lose its existence by merging into the body of Supreme lord.
In sayujya mukti soul can enter the body of lord. But it doesn't lose its individuality. It is sent to abode of brahmajyoti or brahman effulgence. All the while it retains its individuality.
The Māyāvādī philosophers recommend merging in the impersonal effulgence of Brahman; that is their ultimate goal, or destination. That merging is also mentioned here. But in spite of merging, one can keep his individuality. The example given by Jīva Gosvāmī is that a green bird that enters a green tree appears to merge in the color of greenness, but actually the bird does not lose its individuality. Similarly, a living entity merged either in the material nature or in the spiritual nature does not give up his individuality. (SB 3.27.14 Purport)
I hope it is clear that existence is not over even after sayujya mukti.
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YS Bharat
Bg has all the answers about human life is. I.e. who we are what we have to do etc etc It doesn't answer why god is doing this and that. Actually i think none of the books give any answer.
Parulji the truth is no one knows the exact reason to your questions which has arisen in the minds of almost every one otherwise vyasa deva or narada would have mentioned it long time back. Even srila prabhupada gives approx answers like we have somehow or the other fallen in this material world. So best is if you or anyone is given darshan by krsna plz tell him not to create becoz sp says we can again fall down from spiritual world. All the efforts of several births gone in a waste.
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i m eager to know the reason why did he create all of us.
Creating material world is different from creating living entities.
Material world is temporary, it is created, maintained and destroyed in time.
As Krsna Says in BG
prakṛtiṁ svām avaṣṭabhya
visṛjāmi punaḥ punaḥ
bhūta-grāmam imaṁ kṛtsnam
avaśaṁ prakṛter vaśāt
On the other hand soul is never created as Krsna says
na jāyate mriyate vā kadācin
nāyaṁ bhūtvā bhavitā vā na bhūyaḥ
ajo nityaḥ śāśvato ’yaṁ purāṇo
na hanyate hanyamāne śarīre
For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain. BG 2.20
There is no specific date at which the jīva was born. Nor can anyone trace out the history of the jīvātmā’s manifestation from the Supreme Lord. Therefore it is beginningless. The Vedic literature confirms this: na jāyate mriyate vā vipaścit (Kaṭha Upaniṣad 1.2.18). The knower of the body is never born and never dies, and he is full of knowledge. (BG 13.13 Purport)
Jiva is eternal means we are not created. We simply exist.
Can i ask is there any reason of his this will.
There is no reason to His will. That is the meaning of being supremely independent. If there be a reason to His will then the reason is compelling him to perform some action. But that is not the case. He is sarva karana karanam.
if there was no creation there was no such population
Even if there was no creation still the living entity will exist. The pure devotees will exist in spiritual world. The non-devotional liberated souls will be in brahmajyoti. The conditioned souls will be also exist without material body in deep sleep.
Partial dissolution occurs when the soul experiences dreamless sleep, when he leaves his body and when all souls reenter the body of Mahā-Viṣṇu at the time of universal annihilation. (SB 10.87.31 Purport)
This inclination of becoming non-existent due to the unbearable miseries of material nature is the seed that give rise to false religions that consider ultimate goal as void. But the fact is we cannot become non-existent.
so why this all started
It started to each living entity because conditioned the living entity wanted to enjoy separate from Krsna. It doesn't matter whether material creation exists of not. Pure devotees in spiritual world are not affected by it.
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Why lord needs to create these manifested universes ?
When we think of a "need" it implies some sort of an external or internal factor that enforces a compulsion. There is no such factor. Lord doesn't need to create the material universes. Lord is supremely independent. He does it out of his own will. Having said that the material creation facilitates conditioned living entities to improve/ degrade their consciousness.
one side tht brahma is frst original living being , on the other side it is said tht above brahma there r other living being., isn't it confusinng?
No there is no confusion. In the very same sentence SP writes - And above Brahmā, there are even other living beings with individual capacities, and the Personality of Godhead is also a similar living being.
So Brahma is first living entity within the universe. There are other living entities above him like Supreme lord Himself, There is Sadashiva, consort of Sadashiva etc they are not limited to one unverse.
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