Haribol,
I do have a question about the reincarnation matter.
Just finished the Padma Purana and understood that for a vaisnava Krishna is the Father, mother, brother, son etc. and there is no need for beget a son to get salvation to the highest goal.
But if not a at that stage; how is it that one must offer pinda/sradha(or how it is called) to the forefathers? As I also read by reïncarnation one's soul beget by karmic succesion a particular body. Not nescecerry a human one if made some misteps. So huge question;
what are DNA relatives (father son human) and what is spiritual relatives? Who is your forefather or are ancestors to offer things to? To get it more specific; if you made a terrible mistake and beget a non human body while you leave a human son on earth, that son and son's son must offer to who? The big awnser is; your son and son's son etc must do all effort to get you out of your hellish position as non human bird after this one. Am I right? Or by very, very lucky happening (karma I mean) in a non human body meet up with a divine soul who gives you prasadam, holy names or and darshan of Visnu/Krishna and you will beget a human life form the next.
Still, if offer to the forefathers in the afterlife, wait... there is no after life in Krishna counciousness speaking because one begets another body or lives in /on another planet (or hell) if left this body. Or one lives on Krishna's planet. But than no one has to take care of that soul because it has all it's need.
In the Gita is also mentioned a few times the forefathers, just a good explenation is missing.
Can one tell me where in the scriptures this topic is discussed fully? Out of mental speculation by scriptures I know so far I only can tell this about it;
In fact there are only souls souls in all universes and all matter we think to see, smell, touch and taste is illusion by the power of Krishna's maya. Means all movable and unmovable lifeforms are just a mushy sustance who got by combination of the 3 modes of nature plus the soul some sort of freedom to be and do whatever it wants. But in the end it does not excist at all in the real world. So family or you, me , I, plant, animal etc are just illusions and the soul is what all matters. Sentiment or the anxious mental state of the mind to not get lost or rid of this body is tyring and the biggest disorder of the soul by the 3 modes of nature. Am I right? To serve Krishna in one way or another is the core of the case. In wich state or what form is not important! The intention is a little. Like by excedent do Krishna a favour, He is pleased too as he is pleased by effort out of love to Him. But if do things not pleasing to Krishna, He knows another way around it to eventually get pleased anyways, like sporting with you as you are a demon and kill you. Or use your material body by one of His devotees. Aka like a tree, cut down make paper and print books out of it or build a temple or other means of Krishna worthy items.
See a soul is in my opinion just a living force to trow in matter and see what it does life after life. Like an actor who can play many movies, theaters and voices in animation shows, by just change dress or setting or character. But in the end if cast off all that, the actor at home is still one person and has nothing to do with all the personalities of that play of the day.
This all brings me to the question; why are we attached to certain habits and bodies? Some are very brave and change gender or appearance or cast of their body very easy(I am not talking about ones who use drugs and kill themselfs out of experiment and such, but yogi's or such).
Om namo ramaya!
Hare Krishna!
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Hare Krishna Prabhu ji,
I don't understand your questions? can you summarize in 2-3 sentences your question. Is this question or simply a blog or realization?
What I understand from all your previous question that you want another body. You want to quit the present body because you have done mistakes in life isn't it?
Let me tell you all are fallen. Don't consider you alone are most fallen and want to quit. Everyone of us have committed many sins. No one is perfect.
But no one wants to quit this body. Actually I want a longer and healthy life. So that I can practice Krishna consciousness till the end of this life and then quit the body with satisfaction that I have done something.
See don't take this life negatively.
What is your age? You must be middle aged? isnt it
you must have done mistakes half time of your age. But see you have another half of life ahead!!!
IF THE GLASS IS HALF EMPTY One mustn't see it as Half empty. One must see it as HALF FULL.
Bring positivity in life. You have another half of the life which you can do bhakti more and more bhakti.
WHAT EVER TIME YOU SPENT AWAY TILL NOW you cannot get that time back. But You can re- live the next part of life doing double amount of bhakti double the amount of chanting!!!!
See let us say you wasted 10 yrs of ur precious life ( did mistakes sins) you are going to do 32rounds of chanting X10 yrs. for the next 10 years.
If you did severe sins you feel ur past cannot be erased? The past can be erased easily by doing 3 times more chanting for the next half of your life. I am DAMN SURE 100% sure that you can go back to Goloka this life time itself if you start doing chanting double or tribble the 16 rounds for the next half of the life time.
WHY DO YOU WANT ANOTHER LIFE AGAIN?? WHEN JUST SOME HARD WORK NOW IT SELF CAN SUFFICE.
There is no SIN or mistakes in life which cannot be corrected by Mahamantra even Brahma hatya can be counteracted. DOn't simply waste your time contemplating on death or getting another body of some animal life etc .. DOn't waste your precious time.
FROM now sit and spend all the time for chanting. I am 100% sure you will go back to Goloka this life itself if you do chanting atleast starting from now.
Surrender to Krishna completely and you will be done all your sins are eradicated from the roots. Believe in Krishna's promise 18.66 sloka of Bhagwad gita. Believe Lord Sri Krishna is capable of eradicating all ur sins and making you purest pure and taking you back to Goloka in this life itself. WORK HARD towards this.
Take a book / diary and daily chant 32 rounds or 64 rounds per day. you have half of your life more to lead. You can finish it!!!
Hare Krishna.
Haribol!
You did read it right exactly in-between the lines of TL;DR of all my posts. Congratulations!
This is the perfect awser on spiritual platform. Today I also found deities of Hanuman and Hayagriva (Krishna hals horse who brought back the scriptures to Bramha very good)
Yes yes, half life, many mistakes. Chanting a lot, always 24/7/365 mahamantra, kirtan, harinam, bhajans on soundsystems in the whole house so no change to avoide Krishna ontop of a huge altar (2 meters high almost and 1,5 meter square in the middle of theliving room) with Jagannatha, Baladeva, Subhadra, Nrshimhadeva, Laksmi Narayana and now Hayagriva and Hanuman too. Ganga water, many tulasi plants(14+ filled with manjari's) huge garden with loads of flowers, veggies, fruits and herbs for Krishna to use. As well as sandelwoods, saffron and all other things you can inmagine to use for worship. All the purana's, Prabhupada's books and instruments.
Well the mistakes I made are huge in material world. I know everyone made mistakes but not many did made mistakes to be in prison for a year and is registerd for life plus 20 years after death I suppose. Wich I feel very, very ashamed for and uncomfortable. What I understand out of your replay and out of others is; chanting erased all. Yes I did read it in purana's. Chanting, ekadashi visit holy places, and much more erase your bad things. If only a earthly judge would buy it...
This is the hardest part, you, me, the rest of ISKCON/vaisnava's or devotees on bhakti yoga all understand this fact. Spiritual I am healthy and on the good path. But if I go to cityhall or officials and say;"Hey guys, I chant 64 rounds a day, please erase me from the offenders list and wipe me out of the criminal records will you?"They will laugh so hard! No Chanting won't get me a job. But will get me bhakti for life as I can't work for a living. Wich I do already.
The sad thing is, I am still living amoung materialists who see I am at home do 'nothing' and live from social money. Ontop the illegal adoption wich makes me a stateless citicezen who by luck have registerd to beget a house and social money from the government. So spiritual I am nothing but good, just the body&bureaucracy/paperwork is a mess. And makes me axious to get initation or be proclaimed a iskcon devotee. (there are loads of courtcases about (ex)-iskcon people who molest childeren or did other bad things I don't want to be part of the list that's all) If only there was a way to erase my case form the internet too. ( I apologayse to NOT use my real name here, I am afraid if I use it people will avoide me or ban me and sadhusnaga online will be ended for me. irl it is hard to meet devotees, they all know...please be mercifull and keep up the talk)
So what you just wrote is the best option, just do my rounds and see what's happening. The so-called ill urge to be with others in life aka family, kids or to be with a loved one, is 'just' lust&bondage and 'the wrong path' to perfection. As halflife, you should know I too love to be with another soul in life, loulmates so to speak. Like I did read somewhere; a vedic marrige you marry for 7 lifes , is that correct? But if your lover in next life is with another or in a non human body, what happens? Is that why I am so stressed and sadnessstricken? I did meet this life 2 souls who are very, very close and dear to me. but both were non human life. Both had/have human alike behaviour and eat prasadam, did/do things no other (same body of theirs) would do. It is just odd to live a life with no family, stolen/kidnapped for adoption than in a family who raised you like a dog; no real love or afection, just basics and struggle to get school, job but due illegal adoption, school/diploma is worthless and no one likes to hook up with you becase of illegal state, no job no girlfriend, all are afraid of me so it is really weird I heard in lectures to give up bondage, whilst I was already without binding of family and love. So no attachements. Weird isn't it?! I was never born, no birthcertificate at all. Wich makes your mental behaviour a bit disorder like, you do not excist and are not welcome.
So yes as I wrote many times, I see moreover the soul instead of matter. What I understand is; safe yourself and if can, take others with you as wellwisher. Well that is what I try to do.
I will never use a diary, it only suits the ego, I just chant and let Krishna in the form of Yamaraja deal with it at the moment when it has come.
Thank you, Hare Krishna!
Hare Krishna,
Why I see so much negativity in you?
You are far better than many physically and mentally handicapped.
You have a shelter ( who by luck have registerd to beget a house and social money from the government. )
you have a home+ social money is coming for you.
U need lover and marriage and kids?
were you ever married previously do you had any wife and kids? or you are still searching for your soulmate?
You want a job isn't it
which country are you in ?
https://helpforfelons.org/online-jobs-felons/
try jobs here.
what is your qualification? school high school diplomo?
https://www.hirefelons.org/work-from-home-careers/
Are you handy? or do you have any skills like drawing, painting, or making some toys for kids ( soft toys). or something some hobby which you can develop and do business by selling your products. Or some other skills like gardening. I see these days people sell tulasi plants and some rare plants online they grown in their home and advertise and sell on ebay. try doing such small business which doesn't require much training or back ground check.
https://www.theworkathomewoman.com/jobs-that-dont-require-backgroun...
https://ratracerebellion.com/9-companies-with-remote-jobs-that-are-...
https://www.hirefelons.org/work-from-home-careers/
https://jobs.lovetoknow.com/Ex-Convicts_Search_for_Employment
I recently got a Krishna Tulasi plant ordered from Ebay live potted plant. It costed me 10 dollars + 10 dollar shipping. I think you can do that work. can you sow tulasi seeds and raise the plants in pots and sell them on ebay?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/144236227883?hash=item2195262d2b:g:JjcAAOS...
funny but truth is in USA we have to buy seeds and plants as no one gives us one seed also. You can do business even with mud.
People buy potting mud and compost. If you really want a job there are many ways to make money.
will keep adding if I find some interesting jobs which requires no background check.
I don't like people who cry and sob or beg money online. I like those who are willing to exert themselves to get money. Money is the most easy thing to make. Even cleaning toilets one can make money. Simply doing nothing and saying I want to end my life that this is indicating only your depressed mind.
come out of it. You can do so much better. Trust in Krishna!!!!!! Krishna surely will find a way for you.
Keep chanting till than. ONE FINE DAY Krishna will make you get a job you will be hiring people to work under you!!! you will have a big home and money everything whatever you dream of.
Have hope! You can do it. You are not lazy.
go ask people outside that I want to clean the car. they will pay you for car cleaning also min.$10/per car. You charge $5 you will get hired to daily clean some cars.
You can deliver newspaper. do small jobs. No job is less!!
You have half of you life ahead It is in your hands if you really want to reap something out of it. You better start something now.
People do so many things sell on craigslist some stuff which you don't use.
If you are handy and can fix things. Buy some old laptops or cell phones repair them and sell them.
You don't need birth certificate for every job.
get up raise you can do it! in a year or so from now you will be hiring people under you if you try doing some small scale business. people sell fruit juice and cut fruits.
If you have problem with your being felon to start a business then employ a person to with good track record to work for you. Start small road side shop/ lemonade stand or fruit juice or cut fruit stall. operate under his name share the profits. There are many ways. get out of this depressive mood and become productive.
You will get everything in life believe in Krishna. Krishna is watching you. He wants you to completely believe in Him first than He will give you everything back whatever you lost.
Work work work. Don't be lazy.
Hare Krishna
Check this for inspiration prabhu ji,
https://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/21/how-one-man-went-from-felon-to-self...
How one man went from felon to self-made millionaire by age 40
https://www.arrestrecords.com/15-surprising-ex-convicts-who-made-it...
You will also become some man among these people who have made it a big after coming out of prison.
EVERY SAINT HAS A PAST & EVERY SINNER A FUTURE.
Good Luck may Krishna bless you.
Hare Krishna
Haribol,
Yes I do have tons of negativity. But hidden positivity. I am raised to be not proud, not brag, not do anything at all just sit in a corner as a matter of speaking. When a kid I had to hide me if officials came visit my adoptionparents. Because I was illegal.
Yes I am handy enough. There is way too much I can do. But than again, thanks for all the links. It is hard to be online with my real name and adress to sell stuff for the masses.Incognito as a in a fandom I could try. But still taxes and official name&adress have to be on the envelope/parcel. Let alone bank acount/paypal and such. Nothing is secret in this world, unless on a convention or real life exchange market.
Yes Krishna is always near, I am just lost... There is no day I am wothout food or money or anything you can wish for. It is just my negativity wich files me up. If you love someone so so badly and that person is shot death in front of ou, soemthing breaks in you I will tell you. And if another one you love years later is raped and kept away from you while you know this one for 5 years it is very, very hard. Ontop of the fact I can not openly say I love her. Krishna and attachements/bonds/family etc. weird thing. If one comes too close the person most likely is going to be in trouble.
I wil now look for the links. Probibly a few helpfull who knows. Krishna is one who never let His devotee perish. It is I who is blind all the time, that's all. Like yesterday I stumbled upon a Hayagriva statue and bought it. I do like the story of Hayagriva horse and funfact, when home opend the bag, a pot of ghee was included wow?! I did clean the deity with cowdung, saffron, sandelwoodpulp, tulsi and champhor. Now on my altar.
I gave way this year 24 tulasi's and kept 14 here. (odd not 16?) I gave some animals here nearby also tulsi leaves and manjari's. As well mahaprasadam(apples, grass carrots every day) from the altar.
It is not that I want to be famous(I am already, 14 newspapers, 2 news chanels, radio and internet sadly)or want a rich life (well to be honest if I could get a propper space to take care of the ones I love would be great! But than again, the space I have now would be big enough). I am very content with what I have. The one and only things still be; get rid of the guitly plea courtcase/register where I am in and let people accept me for who I am. Internet is a twisted 'safe' place. In real life (or if you found me online the bad way) it is way different! I am not a beast! I had to plea geuilty because my adoption parents lawyer said so to do because I am a very complicated person and if jury court would have taken place I could end up for life or worse, so plea guilty was the best they said. But later back home other lawyer told me it is bogus! But I can't appeal a guilty plea as it is... so marked for life. Already sentenced by the media is bad! They did not knew the whole story and evidence fully. Very small detail; In press they said I had 20,000 photo's uhm, my hobby was make photo's and yes my family is caucasian and I am colored skin so easy for outsiders to could say;"hey you! why you have photo's of others kids?"Uhm my nephews/niece and family reunion pics. Adoption motherside counts 80+ people and fathers adoption side 60+ all caucasian. But that is not in the newspapers!
Anyways chant Hare Krishna! Like always do. And if not chant, listen to it or read aout it. That is my life.
Hare Krishna!
Hare Krishna,
Sad to hear all these things that you faced in life.
But whatever one sows one shall reap as the saying goes.
You must have done something bad in ur past life today your facing the results of the karma.
its okay try to find some job there are jobs for felons. They are hiring. Ofcourse you must showt/ prove them that you are very trust worthy.
It is not a problem to say that you love some girl. In Krishna bhakti we should see all are as part and parcel of Krishna,
Whatever happened cannot be erased. Try to see positivity and have hope of better living in future.
Mahamantra Chanting can make you perfectionist and purest of all souls. Keep chanting. Have complete faith in Lord and you can see Lord will bring changes in your life without your knowledge. The things what are not possible for humans only God can make it all possible. Trust is what we are lacking that needs correction.
No need to brag about anything. Only one needs to brag or feel great about is that we belong to Krishna.
Hare Krishna
Haribol,
Yes karma is all that it is. Like stated in the scriptures. Merits and demerits are not nesceserily taken action in this lifetime, unless it is by bhakti/mahamantra and the will of Krishna Himself. For the rest karma can appear/take action next or many lifetimes after the karma is begotten/accumulated.
Like Krishna told Arjuna; he can not remember any of his previous lifetimes whil He(Krishna) can remember all of them (conversations&meetups with Arjuna in other life forms, yes Arjuna in this BG lifetime did appear many other times in history under other names and in other bodies as stated in like Padma Purana)
BG 6.24 comes in mind at my call. Lost of loved one try to do everything to get back. Again and again I tell what I understood (or misunderstood you explain) if you marry a person vedic rites I heard you marry for 7 lifetimes. So what I feel with the ones I attached to in life very strongly I assume thoose had the body of the one who I married with in previous lifetime. And due bad karma/mishappen that soul had to be born in lifes wich had taken away again and again from me. Only Krishna knows. While I on the other hand had some merits on karmic balance to keep up with bhakti yoga in this body, while my soulmate could not. And by the mercy of Krishna my soulmate could meet me in the bodily life and get prasadam at least. That is how I see it. In the end it is the soul, Prabhupada over and over told us;"You are not this body, you are the soul!"But no,.. all tell me this body is all you have to get to Krishna. True in a way to preform bhakti yoga. But even in a body of a animal or non human one can reach Krishna BY the mercy of a devotee/vaisnava, holy place, maha mantra, prasadam, darshan. Not that I aim for it, just to point out, if it happens, it happens. It is all karma. Do never be sad! (says one who is sad and negative, say reverse psygoligy) if the bound between souls is that big they most likly going to help eachother on the path of perfection. And if one of the two has a human body it goes faster. But time is not very important. On the scale of a life of Bramha even a human life is peanuts! It is all in the mind! Do you like to suffer? That is the question. Most of all I for one not like to live a life totally stressed out like if no tomorrow and need to vaikuntha, and if fail I am the worst of the worst. That drives me litterly to suïcide! My own vision is; just do your thing and if you get there it is bonus! Or say; preform your own duty.
Yes it pains me a lot all material bondage or say every day life. But if get on the other side of life's disorder and think or see Krishna I am like; Uhm what's all about? So in fact I am huge mental unstable and weird. One side stressed out about life, other way tranquil and have all praphanellia to worship Krishna and surrouned by all goodness. Life is weird!The line between is very, very thin to push me over the brinck of suïcide. Krishna knows...
As for practical a job. Yes thanks for the links. I just am a frog in a boiling kettle; status quo. I realize reading a lot, so many have a hard time t work and social stress about a job, whilst I just can't work and keep an eye on bhakti yoga unshaken. So choose your poisen... I think, not much money, no social life/coworkers is better for bhakti yoga. Chanting all day and listening to Krishnaall day, reading books of matters Krishna all day isn't that bad. To be honest, the amount of prasadam and other necerities to maintain this weird body I have plenty money even I have for this country where I live just under poverty scale. I am rich in my eye's. Can pay the bills and stil can live like as if on Vaikuntha!
As you, we, all say; "we are all part and parcel of Krishna, I can happily say, I am in love with Krishna. As for I give mahaprasadam to creature I love in fact I feed the supersoul within aka Krishna so to speak. And help the jiva/soul posessing that particular body the ticket to a human body , because I gave mahaprasadam! All good.
Hare Krishna!