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Our Role in Goloka.....

Hare Krishna to all devotees, Please accept my humble obeisance.

All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

 

One of my devotee friend told me that we have our role already decided in Golok irrespective of how and in which form we pray ... Lord Krishna is the only god whom we can worship as a friend, son and as a lover also... I worship lord Krishna as a friend and even if I reach Golok after n number of years.. I would like to serve Krishna as a friend only and I will be fortunate enough if get a chance to play with him.. that will be the most wonderful experience ....   I know even if I can be a blade of a grass I can serve Krishna BUT being a grass or being a animal there is not actually we are looking for to be our role in golok ...    Please advance devotees correct me if m going worng.. just the ques pop up in my mind....

 

Hare Krishna

your servant

 

Amit Mehra

 

 

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  • There are differences between sampradayas but im not questioning
    Prabhupada teachings as im too fallen its just other sampradayas do not accept krsna to be origin of all incarnations.You can ask anyone from sri sampradaya.im very sorry not intend to hurt anyone.jaya prabhupada.
  • Hare Krishna Amit Prabhu!

    Thank you very much for posting such an honest inquiry to all devotees.

    To my mind, nothing wrong to imagine that you are playing with Krishna and serving Him with love, sincerity, genuineness, devotion and truthfulness. Remember, most of us are struggling with our spiritual as well as material lives. However, they are expert in giving imaginary suggestions and advice to others. Please read Bhagavad Gita and Bhagavatam again and again. Many questions will be clear to you. You will see, how merciful Krishna is!

    I am not in a position to tell you if it is wrong or right to imagine about your role in Goloka. There are many examples that Krishna liberated many fallen souls. Please read Bhagavatam 3.15.16-23 and you will learn how wonderful the Vaikuntha is!  You can also read a brief description of Vaikuntha in one place by clicking this link: http://krishna.com/description-vaikuntha. I would like to refer the last sentence of the article named "Description of Vaikuntha "which is: “It is very much regrettable that unfortunate people do not discuss the description of the Vaikuntha planets.” 

    Please continue chanting and loving Krishna. He will enlighten you to understand Him better. 

    Wish to see your continuous progress towards spiritual life.

    Hare Krishna!

    Amal 

    Description of Vaikuntha | Krishna.com
  • I know .only iskcon says radhakrsna is the origin of all expansions.every devotee is unique im not judging I mean prahlad maharaj adopted the relationship of servant n master whereas gopis were lovers but all are great.I mean the philosophy that only with krsna form all relationships can be formed that is parental, lover, conjugal etc....is not inline with the idea that God in everyform is capable of anything and is not subject to outer environment like us.Those who say they dont want liberation just do not know what liberation is.its just u donr deserve it for yourself but to continue in devotional service.devotees must only reject liberation of merging with the supreme kind of liberation where there is no service.Are we so great that we can stay here longer and dont fall down.NO.
  • For me Vaikuntha is the final abode.I am only longing for the service of lakshmi and narayan just like a simple servant.When you arrive there you will know in what position and duties you will fit and be given by the lord.Do not worry overthere everything is good and will  give you unlimited happiness.Also we have never gone to the spiritual world as no one fall from there.we are here in the material sky since time immemorial.Now its time to go back.

  • Hare Krishna, PAMHO, AGTSP,

    A true Devotee just pray for causeless mercy & company of true Devotees life after life. He wants to be identified as Devotee of Sri Krsna, just all. He never aspire to go Golok Vridavan.

    Dandavat,

    your servant

  • Volunteer

    also agree.

    Krishna is so kind that He made Putana His mother in spiritual world because she gave her milk to him. 

    What to speak of a Devotee like You Prabhu. Yes surely if You desire He will accept Your friendship.

    But for time being we have to chant 16 rounds and follow 4 regulative principles and always eat Prasadam and associate with Devotees.

    In spiritual world living beings can change their bodies according to their desires. Because all trees are desire trees, land is out of a touchstone, all cows are desire fulfilling cows.

    So Lord Balaram for example in order to serve to Krishna better becomes His towel, shoes, ....

    Some living beings become flowers, bees....cows....His flute....clouds...

    After all no matter which svarupa or form we will have in Golok we will love our situation like anything.

    Flower is happy to be a flower for Krishna as much as a Gopi.

    Your servant, 

    • Hare Krishna to all devotees,

      All glories to Srila Prabhupada ji

      Bhaktin mataji and chirag prabhu ji thanku for the reply... u people are very kind....in devotion and dedication also I stand far behind u all...very often in my life I would required ur valuable suggestions... my mind was in the state of confusion coz of lack of knowledge....

      yes I am reading bhagwad gita now and have increased my rounds also... mataji ur post was really helpful.....seriously I don't have any desire now, but desire just to serve lord

       

      Hare Krishna,

      Your servant

      Amit Mehra

       

  • Hare Krishna Mataji and prabhu ji, Please accept my humble obeisance.

    All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

    My ignorance was at finest, thank u for the replies. Gauranga prabhu ji ur post really helped me a lot to know what actually is the truth thank you prabhu ji

    Hare Krishna

    Your servant
    Amit Mehra

    • Hari Bol! Hari Bol! Hari Bol!

      :)

  • Nityananda !

    Gauranga 11

    Hare krsna,

                    Dearest Amit prabhu,

                                                      Your question is 100 % transcendental and very elaborate discussions needs to be done in this regard. I had tried my level best to provide you a satisfying answer, but i beg you to humbly do more chanting as these aspects like knowledge of eternal goloka vrindavana, becoming krsna's associate, eternal life in vaikuntha , participating in krsna's lilas in sakhya rasa, vatsalya rasa, dasya rasa, madhurya rasa etc... are all subject matters of deep spiritual revelation. Many elaborate explanations are given in brahma vaivarta purana, srimad bhagavatam , jaiva dharma, madhurya kadambini, Gita govindam of jayadeva goswami, and many other books of previous acharyas...although lots of information regarding goloka, activities of gopis, etrnal function of souls who are nitya siddhas and nitya baddhas in material worlds are elaborately explained, still without reaching certain stage, we cannot properly understand these activities in goloka, the infinite petalled lotus...lots of information is also available in brahma samhita..too....i will quote a very fundamental sloka from brahma samhita....

    TEXT 38

    premänjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena
    santah sadaiva hrdayesu vilokayanti
    yam  syämasundaram acintya-guna-svarüpam
    govindam ädi-purusam  tam aham bhajämi

    I worship Govinda, the primeval Lord, who is syämasundara, Krsna Himself with inconceivable innumerable attributes, whom the pure devotees see in their heart of hearts with the eye of devotion tinged with the salve of love.

    This stage of ultimate love is called prema, which is the ultimate pinnacle or zenith point of bhakti to the lord...As krsna is infinite, krsna bhakti is infinite ( radharani is devotional service personified) and srimati radharani is also infinite, being the hladini shakti or internal energy of the lord..hence there are infinite activities in krsna bhakti...All these rasas are connected to krsna only...not any demigod in this material world...only krsna who is transcendental ...

    There are eight progressive stages of development on the path of bhakti. whether one if following the path of vaidhi bhakti or Raganuga bhakti.  Both paths lead to prema bhakti. Although as we will learn, there are different grades of prema. Both paths donot lead to vraja ( vrindavana)...only raganuga bhakti gives one access to vraja.

    1. Sraddha - Preliminary faith in krsna and the process of bhakti.

    2. Sadhu sanga - association with advanced vaishnava devotees. 

    3. Bhajan - kriya - Engaging in sadhana- bhakti and Guru-seva.

    4. Anartha Nivritti - Dimishing and eradication of activities and behavior unfavorable to bhakti.

    5. Nistha - Unshakable faith and steadiness in sadhana and bhajana.

    6. Ruchi - Experiencing a spontaneous taste and attraction for krsna from sadhana and bhajana.

    7. Aasakti - Deep attachment to krsna and immersion in chanting, hearing and lila smarana.

    8. Bhava - Awakening of prema, realization of your identity and form and direct darshana of krsna. ( This is what you are asking for )..

    These progressive stages lead to the ultimate goal...Prema...

    9. prema - Direct involvement internally in the eternal lila while developing the first stages of prema..

    hence, i hope i could answer your question a little better...still there  are many more like Ekadasha bhavas...of a soul..in eternal goloka or vaikuntha systems in different rasas..its in Goloka...as per visvanatha chakravarthi's vastu ( dont mistake for vaastu) siddhi...bhaktivinoda thakura's modifications of the book by Dhyanachandra goswami's smarana paddhati...

    1. Naama ( eternal name of the gopi)

    2. Roopa ( complexion)

    3. vayas ( eternal age - dont getconfused with the mundane age).

    4. vesa ( gopi deha - blue garments with multicolored ornaments).

    5. sambandha - relationship with radhakrsna.

    6. yutha - manjari is always near to sri radha.

    7. Aajna - taking the order of her group leader sakhi and serving radharani.

    8. Seva - its divided into 2 types. (i) obeying all orders  (ii) particular service like fanning with a chamara etc...

    9. parakaastha - always meditating at heart that...iam a nitya sakhi...

    10. paalyadaasi - the sadhaka manjari remains always under the shelter of a nitya sakhi who maintains her in every respect.

    11. Nivaasa - the delightful places such as vamsivata, vraja which are the sites of radhakrsna pastimes are the dwelling places of siddha deha.

    This 11 bhavas is directly intended for those who desire to be manjaris in goloka especially under sri rupa manjari and lalita...svarupa damodara goswami in gaura lila is lalitha sakhi in vraja lila..

    Bhaktivinoda thakura in gaura lila is kamala manjari.

    Bhaktisiddhanta saraswati thakura is nayana mani manjari..etc...

    yours humble servant

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