our departure from spiritual world

Hare Krsna

to enjoy separately . as far as i think enjoying separately from krishna is a material thought.

In spiritual world there is no spiritual and material. Everything is spiritual and for Krsna. The thought of enjoying separate from Krsna or enjoying like Krsna is not for the pleasure of Krsna. Hence to facilitate this desire soul was transferred to material world.

is it possible that in a spiritual body and spiritual consciousness and in spiritual world material thought may come.

Yes, It is possible that in a spiritual body and spiritual consciousness and in spiritual world thought of enjoying seperate from Krsna can come.

In this world our exp is that our desires have mostly been acquired from outside, by seeing someone or something. But the living entity constitutionally has the provision to desire anything independently. It is the inherent attribute of living entity.

We can think of it like everyone has a switch. Switch has 2 option - On and Off. If we switch On then current flows and gives us shock. How a person operates the switch is completely upto the person. Presently our switch is On, so we r getting shocks of maya, all we need to do is turn the switch Off, then current flow stops and shocks will disappear. Maya or illusory energy cannot turn the switch On or Off, it has to be done by us. Current only flows after the switch is On. SO it is we who did the mistake of turning the switch On. Ultimately why did we turn On thw switch can only be known fully when we go back to spiritual world. But it is not important. what is important is we have to go back.

YS Bharat

At the end of Lord Brahmā’s life, there is complete annihilation of the entire universe, where then all pure living beings merge in the Supreme Lord. The pure living beings and the Lord, remain in inactive ''yoga nidra'' state until the another creation.
Because such pure living beings are freed from all material contamination at the end of the material world,
the words ''nitya-baddha''. which means ''ever conditioned'', doesn't have a sense to me.

Anyway, without qualified pure devotee or sadhu association and mercy, one usually do not revive KC, nor goes back to Godhead, despite all the sadhana.

Even if one does not follow any sadhana or any religious principle, even being completely in the mood of ignorance or passion, even being demon, tree, or candala, just because of Lords or pure devotee association, one may attain the Lord.

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Bharat December 10, 2017 at 6:14pm

Hare Krsna

to enjoy separately . as far as i think enjoying separately from krishna is a material thought.

In spiritual world there is no spiritual and material. Everything is spiritual and for Krsna. The thought of enjoying separate from Krsna or enjoying like Krsna is not for the pleasure of Krsna. Hence to facilitate this desire soul was transferred to material world.

is it possible that in a spiritual body and spiritual consciousness and in spiritual world material thought may come.

Yes, It is possible that in a spiritual body and spiritual consciousness and in spiritual world thought of enjoying seperate from Krsna can come.

In this world our exp is that our desires have mostly been acquired from outside, by seeing someone or something. But the living entity constitutionally has the provision to desire anything independently. It is the inherent attribute of living entity.

We can think of it like everyone has a switch. Switch has 2 option - On and Off. If we switch On then current flows and gives us shock. How a person operates the switch is completely upto the person. Presently our switch is On, so we r getting shocks of maya, all we need to do is turn the switch Off, then current flow stops and shocks will disappear. Maya or illusory energy cannot turn the switch On or Off, it has to be done by us. Current only flows after the switch is On. SO it is we who did the mistake of turning the switch On. Ultimately why did we turn On thw switch can only be known fully when we go back to spiritual world. But it is not important. what is important is we have to go back.

YS Bharat
3ruf705dlznca December 6, 2017 at 3:29pm

At the end of Lord Brahmā’s life, there is complete annihilation of the entire universe, where then all pure living beings merge in the Supreme Lord. The pure living beings and the Lord, remain in inactive ''yoga nidra'' state until the another creation.
Because such pure living beings are freed from all material contamination at the end of the material world,
the words ''nitya-baddha''. which means ''ever conditioned'', doesn't have a sense to me.

Anyway, without qualified pure devotee or sadhu association and mercy, one usually do not revive KC, nor goes back to Godhead, despite all the sadhana.

Even if one does not follow any sadhana or any religious principle, even being completely in the mood of ignorance or passion, even being demon, tree, or candala, just because of Lords or pure devotee association, one may attain the Lord.

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