Posted by tsheshank on September 15, 2011 at 2:25pm in Karma
how to come out of lusty desires such that that desires forced to enter in to that desires though i am not willing to enter how can i come out of it. pls devotees help me.
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Hare Krishna Tsheshank Prabhu, Our identification with our body is so deep due to our sanskars since our birth that we tend to make our selves responsible for all its natural urges.Lust being one such expression of our natural attraction for the opposite sex. Uncontroled natural urge of our physical body even if it is urge to eat ,drink ,hearing ,seeing or touching can all be defined as Lust.It is very difficult to control the Maya or Prakriti cause it is in the control of the Supreme Personality of God head Sri Krishna.Maya is 'Durattyayi' impossible to be controlled by our fickle mind so the best option with us lies in practice of praying to Sri Krishna i.e. Krishna Consciuosness.Of course ,sincerely ,from the bottom of your heart call Him and talk to Him and know that He always is ready to help us if we sincerely call Him.If only, we can sincerely desire for His guidance ,it will come your way sooner or later .Do not be in a hurry,but patiently persevere on the path of Krisna Consciousness by reading ,Bhagwat Gita, Srimad Bhagwatam etc slowly and gradually till you get a guidance from bonafide spiritual Devotee.It has to be done gradually.Please do not identify with your Body(Physical or Subtle i.e. Mind) .And ,try to realize the true identity of Atman(Soul) which is our true self.It is a very small part and parcel of Paramatmana and always connected to it ,just as a ray emanating from the Sun is nothing without the Sun.Good Luck.I hope you will find these thoughts useful. Do,recite the Holy Mantra of 'Hare Krishna' as many times possible as you can and develop the habit remembering (Smaranam) Sri Krishna.
Hare Krishna, All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Dear devotee hare Krsna, Do not try for renunciation, try for bhakti.
Krsna says..
One who restrains the senses of action but whose mind dwells on sense objects certainly deludes himself and is called a pretender.
PURPORT
There are many pretenders who refuse to work in Krsna consciousness but make a show of meditation, while actually dwelling within the mind upon sense enjoyment.
Such pretenders may also speak on dry philosophy in order to bluff sophisticated followers, but according to this verse these are the greatest cheaters.
For sense enjoyment one can act in any capacity of the social order, but if one follows the rules and regulations of his particular status, he can make gradual progress in purifying his existence.
But he who makes a show of being a yogi while actually searching for the objects of sense gratification must be called the greatest cheater, even though he sometimes speaks of philosophy.
His knowledge has no value, because the effects of such a sinful man's knowledge are taken away by the illusory energy of the Lord. Such a pretender's mind is always impure, and therefore his show of yogic meditation has no value whatsoever. BG 3.6
So we need to understand what is our present status in life and act accordingly
There is no benefit in making a show of being a renunciate while inside the privacy of your mind you indulge in all kinds lusty affairs.
The mind has to be fixed up at the lotus feet of Krsna and that is a gradual process.
This begins by hearing submissivly about Krsna and devotional service in the association of devotees.
Then by engagement in some kind of service to the devotees and Krsna you will start to feel some relief.
If you still fall into the bad habit don't bacome hopeless keep hearing more and serving more.
Be humble and don't ever put on a show of being a devotee it will not attract the mercy of the Lord.
Offer sincere prayers asking Krsna for bhakti, do not ask for renunciation or freedom from sinful reactions.
Just remain as you are and chant Hare Krsna with humility.
Pray from your heart...
O almighty Lord, I have no desire to accumulate wealth, nor do I desire beautiful women, nor do I want any number of followers. I only want Your causeless devotional service birth after birth.
O son of Mahäräja Nanda [Krsna], I am Your eternal servitor, yet somehow or other I have fallen into the ocean of birth and death. please pick me up from this ocean of death and place me as one of the atoms of Your lotus feet.
Evryday bowing down before Krsna pray like this with all the sincerity at your command
Very humbly continue to serve all the devoteesand hear Gita and Bhagavatam.
After 1 month we will see how is the progress in KC is and how much the fever of lust has been controlled.
There may be need of adjustment for your personal situation.
Hare Krsna.
get married does not mean you can enjoy your senses for full. Grihastha ashram is different from Grihamedhi life. Every enjoyment in this world have its own price. And once time of sex's price is 25 years of taking care of a child and make him/her a Krishna Conscious human.
Your servant,
please, try Your best, because we are human beings and we should not run after cheap things available even to low living beings. In the reality man looses his power when he looses his mind attracting to a girl but girl looses her power when she is not chaste. So if You want to become a really strong, attractive human, person You should control Your senses and see all other girls as Your mothers.
Your servant,
Hare Krishna Tsheshank Prabhu,
Please accept my humble obeisances! All glories to Srila Prabhupada!
It is very difficult task but possible to overcome.
The things which can help You much:
---be aware what You eat! It only Prasadam which was cooked by the Devotees. No garlic, no onion. garlic increases our attachment to this body.
---Be aware for what You look and what You hear. Recommended no TV and no other karmic songs. No journals with not suitable photos.
---Try to be occupied with something beneficial. For example, play music, sing, guitar is very nice, learn to play in Mridanga, read books, try to help others, distribute Prasadam ... these things will occupy You and Your mind and there won't be time for lusty desires.
---Look to Krishna's eyebrows! :-)! Yes, pray to Him with Your heart and soul. Tell Him that you are not able to control your senses but only You Krishna help me! Please!
lusty desires will come and go, but You have to be busy with Your goal. and pray, and tolerate. And chant minimum 16 rounds of Maha Mantra regularly, attentively.
one more important thing!:
----DO NOT JOKE WITH OPPOSITE SEX!
In Vedas it is recommended not to do so. Lord Chatanya joked with His wife only once in His whole life. He was very strict and aware of His Spiritual Practice. Of Course He is God, but doing so He thought us how to behave.
Your servant,
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Hare Krishna Tsheshank Prabhu,
Our identification with our body is so deep due to our sanskars since our birth that we tend to make our selves responsible for all its natural urges.Lust being one such expression of our natural attraction for the opposite sex. Uncontroled natural urge of our physical body even if it is urge to eat ,drink ,hearing ,seeing or touching can all be defined as Lust.It is very difficult to control the Maya or Prakriti cause it is in the control of the Supreme Personality of God head Sri Krishna.Maya is 'Durattyayi' impossible to be controlled by our fickle mind so the best option with us lies in practice of praying to Sri Krishna i.e. Krishna Consciuosness.Of course ,sincerely ,from the bottom of your heart call Him and talk to Him and know that He always is ready to help us if we sincerely call Him.If only, we can sincerely desire for His guidance ,it will come your way sooner or later .Do not be in a hurry,but patiently persevere on the path of Krisna Consciousness by reading ,Bhagwat Gita, Srimad Bhagwatam etc slowly and gradually till you get a guidance from bonafide spiritual Devotee.It has to be done gradually.Please do not identify with your Body(Physical or Subtle i.e. Mind) .And ,try to realize the true identity of Atman(Soul) which is our true self.It is a very small part and parcel of Paramatmana and always connected to it ,just as a ray emanating from the Sun is nothing without the Sun.Good Luck.I hope you will find these thoughts useful.
Do,recite the Holy Mantra of 'Hare Krishna' as many times possible as you can and develop the habit remembering (Smaranam) Sri Krishna.
Hare Krishna, All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Krsna says..
One who restrains the senses of action but whose mind dwells on sense objects certainly deludes himself and is called a pretender.
PURPORT
There are many pretenders who refuse to work in Krsna consciousness but make a show of meditation, while actually dwelling within the mind upon sense enjoyment.
Such pretenders may also speak on dry philosophy in order to bluff sophisticated followers, but according to this verse these are the greatest cheaters.
For sense enjoyment one can act in any capacity of the social order, but if one follows the rules and regulations of his particular status, he can make gradual progress in purifying his existence.
But he who makes a show of being a yogi while actually searching for the objects of sense gratification must be called the greatest cheater, even though he sometimes speaks of philosophy.
His knowledge has no value, because the effects of such a sinful man's knowledge are taken away by the illusory energy of the Lord. Such a pretender's mind is always impure, and therefore his show of yogic meditation has no value whatsoever. BG 3.6
So we need to understand what is our present status in life and act accordingly
There is no benefit in making a show of being a renunciate while inside the privacy of your mind you indulge in all kinds lusty affairs.
The mind has to be fixed up at the lotus feet of Krsna and that is a gradual process.
This begins by hearing submissivly about Krsna and devotional service in the association of devotees.
Then by engagement in some kind of service to the devotees and Krsna you will start to feel some relief.
If you still fall into the bad habit don't bacome hopeless keep hearing more and serving more.
Be humble and don't ever put on a show of being a devotee it will not attract the mercy of the Lord.
Offer sincere prayers asking Krsna for bhakti, do not ask for renunciation or freedom from sinful reactions.
Just remain as you are and chant Hare Krsna with humility.
Pray from your heart...
O almighty Lord, I have no desire to accumulate wealth, nor do I desire beautiful women, nor do I want any number of followers. I only want Your causeless devotional service birth after birth.
O son of Mahäräja Nanda [Krsna], I am Your eternal servitor, yet somehow or other I have fallen into the ocean of birth and death. please pick me up from this ocean of death and place me as one of the atoms of Your lotus feet.
Evryday bowing down before Krsna pray like this with all the sincerity at your command
Very humbly continue to serve all the devoteesand hear Gita and Bhagavatam.
After 1 month we will see how is the progress in KC is and how much the fever of lust has been controlled.
There may be need of adjustment for your personal situation.
Hare Krsna.
So
Your servant,
Prabhupada said, we are not against sex... against illicit sex... is that hard?
Your servant,
instructed
Please accept my humble obeisances! All glories to Srila Prabhupada!
It is very difficult task but possible to overcome.
The things which can help You much:
---be aware what You eat! It only Prasadam which was cooked by the Devotees. No garlic, no onion. garlic increases our attachment to this body.
---Be aware for what You look and what You hear. Recommended no TV and no other karmic songs. No journals with not suitable photos.
---Try to be occupied with something beneficial. For example, play music, sing, guitar is very nice, learn to play in Mridanga, read books, try to help others, distribute Prasadam ... these things will occupy You and Your mind and there won't be time for lusty desires.
---Look to Krishna's eyebrows! :-)! Yes, pray to Him with Your heart and soul. Tell Him that you are not able to control your senses but only You Krishna help me! Please!
lusty desires will come and go, but You have to be busy with Your goal. and pray, and tolerate. And chant minimum 16 rounds of Maha Mantra regularly, attentively.
one more important thing!:
----DO NOT JOKE WITH OPPOSITE SEX!
In Vedas it is recommended not to do so. Lord Chatanya joked with His wife only once in His whole life. He was very strict and aware of His Spiritual Practice. Of Course He is God, but doing so He thought us how to behave.
Your servant,
Hare Krishna mata g
Please accept my humble obeisances! All glories to Srila Prabhupada!
..
----DO NOT JOKE WITH OPPOSITE SEX!.
can u please elaborate. mata g
ys
prince
my humble obeisances Prabhu,
I heard many times that man should not joke with women. \
Srila Prabhupada told in his lecture that Lord Chaitanya joked with His wife only once not more.
I do not know why, but it is like this only. Maybe it creates more lust.
Your servant,
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