Kaliyuga exists in Bharata Varsha only ?

 
 
 
They say Kaliyuga exists in Bharata Varsha only.
 
As per vedic geography, Bharata Varsha is only one of the nine varshas of Jamvu Dweepa which inturn is one of the seven dweepas.
 
 
 Why yugas exist only in a small part of entire Bhoomandala ?
 
 
 

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  • E-Counselor

    Hare Krsna Prabhuji,

    PAMHO.

    Kaliyuga is very much present in the entire world. One need not even see news or read newspapers to understand that it is much more severe in western countries than in India. 

    Haribol,

    Your servant,

    Radha Rasamayi DD

    •  Hare Krsna Mathaji,

      PAMHO

       

       Some references from scriptures

       

      Chapter 16, Description of Bharata, Anusanga of Brahmanda Purana says:

      68b-69. Sages have said that there are four Yugas, in the Bhårata" sub-continent, viz. Krta, Tretá, Dväpara and Tişya (Kali). I shall mention their detailed divisions wholly later on.

      Chapter 29, Cycle of Yugas: Characteristic of four Yugas, Anusanga also says same.

      1. Wise persons and sages have said that there are four Yugas in Bhārata subcontinent[1]. They are Krta, Treta, Dvāpara and Kali.

      Translator says in footnotes

      1. It is strange that Yugas should be restricted to India (Bhårata) only.

      Chapter 18, Umasamhita of Shiva Purana says:

      चत्वारि भारते वर्षे युगान्यासन्महामुने।
      कृतादीनि न चान्येषु द्वीपेषु प्रभवन्ति हि।।१५।।

      1. O great sage, all the four Yugas Krta and others are followed in Bhärata and not in the other Dvipas.

      Chapter 3, Book 2 of Vishnu Purana says:

      चत्वारि भारत वर्षे युगान्यत्र महामुने।।
      कृतं त्रेता द्वापश्च कलिश्चान्यत्र न क्वचित्॥ १९॥

      In the Bhārata-varsa it is that the succession of four Yugas or ages, the Krta the Treta. The Dvăpara, and Kali, takes place;

      Chapter 7, Swarga Khanda of Padma Purana says:

      Suta said:
      3-8. There are four yugas in Bharatavarsa. The first yuga was Krta; then there was Tretayuga, O brahmanas. After that Dvapara sets in; then comes Kali.

      Chapter 114, Part 1 of Matsya Purana says:

      चत्वारि भारते वर्षे युगानि मुनयोऽब्रुवन्।
      कृतं त्रेता द्वापरं च कलिश्चेति चतुर्युगम्।
      तेषां निसर्गं वक्ष्यामि उपरिष्टाच्च कृत्स्नशः॥५७॥

      There are four ages in Bharatavarsha viz.- Satya, Tretā, Dvăpara and Kaliyuga

      • E-Counselor

        Correct - 4 yugas in Bahrat varsha. What is the definition of Bharat Varsha - our Indian map with Pakistan cut on one side, Bangladesh on other side? No - it was the entire world. It was Jambudwipa - one big piece of land. Srimad Bhagawatam has given reference of how the one piece of land was broken into different continents. 

        That is the reason we find temples in river beds of Europe, America, South America, not to speak of Asian countries.

        Haribol,

        Your servant,

        Radha Rasamayi DD

        • Hare Krsna

            You said  Bharat Varsha is entire Jambudwipa.

             But accordind to bhagavatham and other puranas,

             Bahrat varsha is one of the nine varshas of Jamvudwipa. Not the entire Jamvudwipa

          Vishnu Purana

               Maitreya told Parashara, “Sage, I have learnt that Manu had two sons, Priyavrata and Uttanapada. You have already told me about Uttanapada’s son     Dhruva. But what about Priyavrata?” And this was Parashara’s reply. And this was Parashara’s reply.

             Priyavrata married the daughter of Kardama and had ten sons. Their names were Agnidhra, Agnivahu, Vapushmana, Dyutimana, Medha,           Medhatithi. Bhavya, Savana, Putra and Jyotishmana. Medha, Agnivahu and Putra were not interested in becoming kings, they became sages. The   world is divided into seven regions or dvipas. Priyavrata gave each of the remaining seven sons a dvipa to rule over.

            Agnidhra got Jambudvipa, Vapushmana, Shalmalidvipa, Dyuti mana Krounchadvipa, Medhatithi Plakshadvipa, Bhavya Shakadvipa, Savana Pushkaradvipa and Joytishmana Kushadvipa.

              King Agnidhhra had nine sons, Nabhi, Kimpurusha, Ilavrita, Ramya, Shashtha, Hiranvana, Hari, Kuru and Bhadrashva.

               Jambudvipa was divided up by Agnidhra among these sons. 

               Nabhi got the region that was to eventually became Bharatavarsha.

              Nabhi had a son called Rishabha. Rishabha had a hundred sons, the eldest of whom was Bharata. It is after Bharata that the country was called       Bharatavarsha

           

              SB 5.16.6: In Jambūdvīpa there are nine divisions of land, each with a length of 9,000 yojanas [72,000 miles]. There are eight mountains that mark the boundaries of these divisions and separate them nicely.

          SB 5.16.7: Amidst these divisions, or varṣas, is the varṣa named Ilāvṛta, which is situated in the middle of the whorl of the lotus. Within Ilāvṛta-varṣa is Sumeru Mountain, which is made of gold. Sumeru Mountain is like the pericarp of the lotuslike Bhū-maṇḍala planetary system. The mountain's height is the same as the width of Jambūdvīpa — or, in other words, 100,000 yojanas [800,000 miles]. Of that, 16,000 yojanas [128,000 miles] are within the earth, and therefore the mountain's height above the earth is 84,000 yojanas [672,000 miles]. The mountain's width is 32,000 yojanas [256,000 miles] at its summit and 16,000 yojanas at its base.

          SB 5.16.8: Just north of Ilāvṛta-varṣa — and going further northward, one after another — are three mountains named Nīla, Śveta and Śṛńgavān. These mark the borders of the three varṣas named Ramyaka, Hiraṇmaya and Kuru and separate them from one another. The width of these mountains is 2,000 yojanas [16,000 miles]. Lengthwise, they extend east and west to the beaches of the ocean of salt water. Going from south to north, the length of each mountain is one tenth that of the previous mountain, but the height of them all is the same.

          SB 5.16.9: Similarly, south of Ilāvṛta-varṣa and extending from east to west are three great mountains named (from north to south) Niṣadha, Hemakūṭa and Himālaya. Each of them is 10,000 yojanas [80,000 miles] high. They mark the boundaries of the three varṣas named Hari-varṣa, Kimpuruṣa-varṣa and Bhārata-varṣa [India].

          SB 5.16.10: In the same way, west and east of Ilāvṛta-varṣa are two great mountains named Mālyavān and Gandhamādana respectively. These two mountains, which are 2,000 yojanas [16,000 miles] high, extend as far as Nīla Mountain in the north and Niṣadha in the south. They indicate the borders of Ilāvṛta-varṣa and also the varṣas known as Ketumāla and Bhadrāśva.

           

            

          Where are other six dweepas i.e Plakṣa, Śālmala, Kuśa, Krauñca, Śāka and Puṣkara ?

              Some say,  1) 'Plaksha'-South America, 2) 'Pushkara'-North America, 3) 'Krauncha'-Africa, 4) 'Jambu'-Asia including 'Bharat Varsha',

                            5) 'Shaka'-Europe, 6) 'Shalmali'-Australia, 7) 'Kusha'Oceania (i.e. several Pacific Ocean Islands, New Zealand, Melanesia, etc.

           

              Some others say, the present visible world  is Jamvudwipa.

              They say that other six dweeps ( i.e Plakṣa, Śālmala, Kuśa, Krauñca, Śāka and Puṣkara ) are not visible in kaliyuga.

           

           

          SB 5.16.6 - Vanisource

          • "Dhritarashtra said,—

            'Tell me, O Sanjaya, of the period of life, the strength, the good and bad things, the future, past and present, of the residents, O Suta, of this Varsha of Bharata, and of the Himavat-varsha, as also of Hari-varsha, in detail."

            "Sanjaya said,—

            'O bull of Bharata’s race, four Yugas set in Bharata’s Varshaviz.KritaTretaDvapara, and Kali.

               The Yuga that sets in first is Krita. O Lord; after the expiry of Krita comes Treta; after expiry of Treta comes Dvapara; and after that last of all, sets in Kali. Four thousand years, O best of the Kurus, are reckoned as the measure of life, O best of kings, in the Krita epoch. Three thousand years is the period in Treta, O ruler of men.

            Jambukhanda Nirmana Parva [Mahabharata, English]
            Jambukhanda Nirmana Parva

            • Vaisampayana said,—"that heroic and foremost of the Pandavas endued with great energy, crossing the White mountains, subjugated the country of the Limpurushas ruled by Durmaputra, after a collision involving a great slaughter of Kshatriyas, and brought the region under his complete sway.

              Having reduced that country, the son of Indra (Arjuna) with a collected mind marched at the head of his troops to the country called Harataka, ruled by the Guhakas. Subjugating them by a policy of conciliation, the Kuru prince beheld (in that region) that excellent of lakes called Manasa and various other lakes and tanks sacred to the Rishis.

              And the exalted prince having arrived at the lake Manasa conquered the regions ruled by the Gandharvas that lay around the Harataka territories. Here the conqueror took, as tribute from the country, numerous excellent horses called TittiriKalmashaManduka. At last the son of the slayer of Paka, arriving in the country of North Harivarsha desired to conquer it.

              Thereupon certain frontier-guards of huge bodies and endued with great strength and energy, coming to him with gallant hearts, said,

              'O son of Pritha, this country can be never conquered by you. If you seeks your good, return hence. He that enters this region, if human, is sure to perish.

              We have been gratified with you; O hero, your conquests have been enough. Nor is anything to be seen here, O Arjuna, that may be conquered by you. The Northern Kurus live here. There cannot be war here.

              Even if you enterest it, you will not be able to behold anything, for with human eyes nothing can be seen here. If, however you seeks anything else, O Bharata tell us, O tiger among men, so that we may do your bidding.

              Thus addressed by them, Arjuna smilingly addressing them, said,—

              'I desire the acquisition of the imperial dignity by Yudhishthira the just, of great intelligence. If your land is shut against human beings, I shall not enter it.

              Let something be paid unto Yudhishthira by you as tribute. Hearing these words of Arjuna, they gave him as tribute many cloths and ornaments of celestial make, silks of celestial texture and skins of celestial origin.

              Digvijaya Parva [Mahabharata, English]
              Digvijaya Parva
  • Jambudvipa is called karma bhumi (Visnu Purana 2.3.2) or karma-ksetra (Narada Pancaratra 2.2.62). Degradation of dharma happens there. Other lokas and dvipas are not described as such, or at least I haven't seen such references so far.

    Hari Hari
    ys J.

    • correction: Visnu P. 2.3.2 and N.P. 2.2.62 refer to Bharata varsa, not the whole Jambudvipa.

      Other varsas can't be equated with other Earth's continents known by the modern geography because according to SB 5.16.9 they are close to Himalayas and in 5.17.12 and Visnu Purana 2.2.52-53 they are described as free from suffering and with life of 10 000 - 12 000 years:
      yAni kiMpuruSAdyAni varSANy aSTau mahAmune
      na teSu zoko nAyAso nodvegaH kSudbhayAdikam
      svasthAH prajA nirAtaGkAH sarvaduHkhavivarjitAH
      daza dvAdazavarSANAM sahasrANi sthirAyuSaH

      So they are invisible for us now. Other dvipas, shaped like concentric circles, are interpreted by some as orbits of solar system planets. Otherwise they are also invisible for us now.

      • What is invisible?

          Other varshas ? or other dweepas ?

          Can you compare modern world continents with saptha dweepas or Varshas ?

        • Where is Mount Sumeru ? Is it visible or not ?

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