I am new to this, is Krishna God like the God the Christians and Jews worship? Is Krishna just another word for God?
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David
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I am new to this, is Krishna God like the God the Christians and Jews worship? Is Krishna just another word for God?
Thanks
David
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lol that's your opinion. Not all scriptures say Krishna is supreme. And definitely they don't say that in the beginning everything emanated from Krishna. Give me a verse from sruti texts, that says so. I know you won't find any such verse. LoL
Does Shiva or Devi puranas claim Krishna is supreme? So quit lying.
It's you guys who cherry pick from Bhagavatam, Gita and Brahma Samhita.
The knowlede of Brahman was revealed to the wise sages only, since only they had the ability to grasp such knowledge.
You call us mayavadis, but i would say it's you guys, who are covered in maya, and so can't peirce through the curtain of illusion and realize the Lord's formless state. The less intelligent ones will seek Him in idols, but the wise knows he is beyond matter. He is beyond form.
Hare Krsna
Give me a verse from sruti texts, that says so
Sruti means direct sound vibration from Supreme.
The divine verse of Bhagavad Gita are Sruti - because they are the words of bhagava, Remember bhagavan uvacah.
Bhagavad Gita is Sruti - Song of God. Krsna is the original cause of all causes.
Krsna says His personal feature is the basis of formless brahman in BG 14.27
Param Vijayate Sri Krsna Sankirtanam
Hare Krsna
How unfortunate, even though Krsna is directly saying Krsna is resting abode of impersonal brahman, still mayavadis don't understand it.
Param Vijayate Sri Krsna Sankirtanam
Thats misinterpretation. Those absorbed in maya will find it difficult to understand such divine words.
This is the correct translation.
For, I am the abode of brahman, the immortal, the imperishable, the eternal constitution, and of absolute joy.
Hare Krsna
Does Shiva or Devi puranas claim Krishna as supreme. So quit lying.
I do not know that if they claim Krsna as supreme or not. But they certainly do not say Krsna is not the Supreme. They do not say the personality of Krsna is not the original cuase of all causes as you have said. I am not lying.
Mayavada is the biggest lie. Mayavadis are the biggest liers. They are the greates offenders to Krsna.
The less intelligent ones will seek Him in idols, but the wise knows he is beyond matter. He is beyond form.
This is classical characteristic of mayavadis. Although you tried to hide it initially, the true identity of yours had to come into the limelight. That is the beauty of Srila Prabhupada's divine purports. The mayavadis just cannot tolerate it.
Srila Prabhupada ki Jay. All glories to him - acarya who pulverised the mayavada philosophy into dust
Param Vijayate Sri Krsna Sankirtanam
Hare Krsna
All your mayavada words are are not going to be any value. Srila prabhupada has very clearly given us divine knowledge of pretty much everything that is required. There is no need of mayavadis like you to give us any of your false conceptions. Everything is clearly described in the teachings of Srila prabhupada.
Hare Krsna
Hah Do you even know what maya or illusion means. God doesn't like when his worshippers seek him in objects that are part of this material nature like stone, or wood. Even though he pervades everything and exist even in pillars like in the case of Prahlada, even then HE wants us to go beyond matter.
The idolaters and the pagans, they are the biggest fools. They think god is made of eyes, nose, etc. They don't realize before creation, when there was nothing, there was God, in his formless state. There was no sun, planets or brahmajyoti, but existed only nothingness. Such a state cannot be comprehended by the idolaters. They would tremble at the description of such a void state. And so the idolaters started altering the actual words of Lord Krishna in Gita.
Hello David,
According to the "Gita" the holy scripture of the hindoos, Krishna is God in flesh, just like Jesus was.
Krishna is the human incarnation of the one true God.
Krishna incarnated on earth some 4000 years ago, to get rid of evil forces from the face of earth. He lived like a human, but had god like powers. He used those powers to defeat the demons and tyrannical kings back in the silver age.
Hinduism is one of the oldest religion and has been in existence for many thousands of years. It existed even before Judaism.
Unlike the abrahamic religions, hinduism is mostly polytheistic since hindoos believe in many Gods. But most of these so called gods are only demigods. They are not the one true supreme God.
The one true supreme God according to the scripture Vedas, is Brahman, the formless unmanifested God.
And the manifested state of Brahman is Vishnu ... Later Vishnu incarnated on earth, in flesh, as Krishna.
(People here in ISKCON believe it's Krishna from whom Vishnu emanated. But it's actually the other way round. If one goes by the scriptures, like Vedas or Vishnu Purana, then there it clearly mentions either Brahman or Vishnu as the supreme God, who came down on earth in flesh as Krishna).
The rest are only demigods. Demigods are worshipped when one wants material happiness. Here's a list of demigods that the hindoos worship. Indra the thunder god. Surya the sun god. Pavan the wind god. Laxmi the goddess of wealth, Ganesha the god of both luck and wealth. Since some hindoos worship these aspects of nature like sun god, thunder god and so on, it can be said that hinduism is paganistic as well.
Hare Krsna
People here in ISKCON believe it's Krishna from whom Vishnu emanated. But it's actually the other way round.
This isnot accurate. In this particular divya yuga or mahayuga, the original supreme personality of Godhead Krsna who is origin of Visnu descended to earth. So the two handed form Krsna holding flute is origin of four handed Visnu form.
Krsna is the original Supreme personality of godhead. Krsna is the origin of Visnu. Visnu is Supreme personality of godhead. But Krsna is Original Supreme personality of godhead.
dīpārcir eva hi daśāntaram abhyupetya
dīpāyate vivṛta-hetu-samāna-dharmā
yas tādṛg eva hi ca viṣṇutayā vibhāti
govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi
The light of one candle being communicated to other candles, although it burns separately in them, is the same in its quality. I adore the primeval Lord Govinda who exhibits Himself equally in the same mobile manner in His various manifestations. ( Brahma samhita 5.46)
Visnu and Krsna are same personality but in a different role. Brahman is formless feature of supreme personality of godhead. Krsna is origin of brahman
param Vijayate Sri Krsna Sankirtanam
How can john 1:18 say, no one has seen god any time? God has appeared on earth several times as rama, krishna and other avatars. So, what john says must be false. What actually he wants to say?
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