hari krishnaas per bhagvatgita caste is not matter only we have to surrender lord krishna.then for marrige why we see same caste.my opinion is that marrige should not depend on cast but depends on his or her karm and not janm. my question is can marry with in othercast? in this case both are krishna bhakt but caste is barrier. so plz suggest what will do in such case?
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hare krishna ,krishna prabhu but this varna dependent not upon janma but karma is only for the purpose for serving krishna but during marriages you have to marry within your own castes..
"If one shows the symptoms of being a brahmana, kshatriya, vaishya or a shudra, even if he has appeared in a different class, he should be accepted according to those symptoms of classification."
In the Mahabharata, Yudhishthira says that it is difficult to find out the cast of persons on account of the mixture of castes. Men beget offspring in all sorts of women. So conduct is the only determining feature of caste according to the sages.
Lord says in Bhagvad Gita 4.13, :
"According to the three modes of material nature and the work associated with them, the four divisions of human society are created by Me. And although I am the creator of this system, you should know that I am yet the nondoer, being unchangeable."
Dharma of Brahmanas, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas and shudras :
Peace, Self control, Austerity, Purity , Forgiveness, Simplicity, Knowledge ,Vision is the dharma of Brahmanas.
Valour, Impressiveness, firmness ,skill, not fleeing while at war, generosity , leadership is the dharma of Kshatriyas.
Agriculture, cow protection , trading is the dharma of Vaishyas.
Serving the above four varnas is the dharma of shudras.
Following is the progeny of intermixed orders (Varna-sankaras) and their duties (I have prepared this chart from the Mahabharata) :
Offspring of Intermixed orders and their duties :
Sr. No.
Caste of Father
Caste of Mother
Name of the intermixed offspring
Duty of the Intermixed offspring
1.
Brahmana
Shudra
Parasara
He should serve the persons of his (father's)
race.
2.
Kshatriya
Shudra
Ugra
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3.
Kshatriya
Brahmana
Suta
Reciting of eulogies and encomiums of kings and other great men.
4.
Vaishya
Brahmana
Vaidehaka
Charge of bars and bolts for protecting the privacy of women of respectable households.
5.
Shudra
Brahman
Chandala
Live in the outskirts of cities and towns and the duty assigned to bim is that
of the public executioner.
6.
Vaishya
Kshatriya
Vandi or Magadha.
Eloquent
recitations of praise.
7.
SHUDRA
KSHATRIYA
NISHADA
CATCHING OF FISH
8.
Shudra
Vaishya
Vaidya
Takshan
(carpenter)
9.
Magadhas
Sairindhri
Ayogava
Making of nets (for catching fish and fowl and animals of the
chase)
10.
Vaidehas,
Sairindhri
Maireyakas
Manufacture of wines and spirits.
11.
Charmakara
Nishada
Karavara
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12.
Chandala
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Pandusaupaka
Making baskets and other things with cleft
bamboos.
*There are several other varnasankaras but they have not been mentioned here.
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hare krishna ,krishna prabhu
but this varna dependent not upon janma but karma is only for the purpose for serving krishna but during marriages you have to marry within your own castes..
As per Shrimad Bhagwatam 7.11.35 :
"If one shows the symptoms of being a brahmana, kshatriya, vaishya or a shudra, even if he has appeared in a different class, he should be accepted according to those symptoms of classification."
In the Mahabharata, Yudhishthira says that it is difficult to find out the cast of persons on account of the mixture of castes. Men beget offspring in all sorts of women. So conduct is the only determining feature of caste according to the sages.
Lord says in Bhagvad Gita 4.13, :
"According to the three modes of material nature and the work associated with them, the four divisions of human society are created by Me. And although I am the creator of this system, you should know that I am yet the nondoer, being unchangeable."
Dharma of Brahmanas, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas and shudras :
Peace, Self control, Austerity, Purity , Forgiveness, Simplicity, Knowledge ,Vision is the dharma of Brahmanas.
Valour, Impressiveness, firmness ,skill, not fleeing while at war, generosity , leadership is the dharma of Kshatriyas.
Agriculture, cow protection , trading is the dharma of Vaishyas.
Serving the above four varnas is the dharma of shudras.
Following is the progeny of intermixed orders (Varna-sankaras) and their duties (I have prepared this chart from the Mahabharata) :
Offspring of Intermixed orders and their duties :
Sr. No.
Caste of Father
Caste of Mother
Name of the intermixed offspring
Duty of the Intermixed offspring
1.
Brahmana
Shudra
Parasara
He should serve the persons of his (father's)
race.
2.
Kshatriya
Shudra
Ugra
-
3.
Kshatriya
Brahmana
Suta
Reciting of eulogies and encomiums of kings and other great men.
4.
Vaishya
Brahmana
Vaidehaka
Charge of bars and bolts for protecting the privacy of women of respectable households.
5.
Shudra
Brahman
Chandala
Live in the outskirts of cities and towns and the duty assigned to bim is that
of the public executioner.
6.
Vaishya
Kshatriya
Vandi or Magadha.
Eloquent
recitations of praise.
7.
SHUDRA
KSHATRIYA
NISHADA
CATCHING OF FISH
8.
Shudra
Vaishya
Vaidya
Takshan
(carpenter)
9.
Magadhas
Sairindhri
Ayogava
Making of nets (for catching fish and fowl and animals of the
chase)
10.
Vaidehas,
Sairindhri
Maireyakas
Manufacture of wines and spirits.
11.
Charmakara
Nishada
Karavara
-
12.
Chandala
-
Pandusaupaka
Making baskets and other things with cleft
bamboos.
*There are several other varnasankaras but they have not been mentioned here.
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