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There are so many devotees on ISKCON DESIRE TREE who are very new and even old also on ISKCON DESIRE TREE, who actually are not aware of the Importance of Guru in Krishna Consciousness so kindly all Vaishnav and Dr. Devotees kindly put the light on the importance of Guru in Krishna Consciousness.
Your Humble Servant
Bhuwan Dutt Bawari
Thank yo very much
Dear All Devotees Dandvat!!!!!!!!!!! PAMHO!!!!!!!! AGTSP!!!!!!!!!! Radhey! Radhey! Thanks for all your opinion on this blog. Kindly other devotees also share their view on this so that it could be more clarify.
Aakash Prabhuji kindly do not take the Dean Prabhuji's explanation through other way because if you really want to know Lord Krishna and want to be his pure devotee then you need to accept a bonafide spritual master without that you can not see the Lord and you can not understand the ultimate power of Lord.
In case you still have some hesitation to accept a bonafide spritual master then you can accep Sri Mad Bhagwad Gita or Sri Mad Bhagwatam as a bonafide spritual Master.
Since Sri Bhagwad Gita said by Lord Krishna himself and Sri Mad Bhagwatam recite by Ved Vyasa then both of them can be consider as a bonafide spritual master but make sure that you have accept all the instruction as it is mention in them but after all you can become the pure devotee of the Lord by sincerly serving the devotees of the Lord.
Your Humble Servant
Bhuwan Dutt Bawari
to think that krishna will guide always and no guru is needed is unauthentic,if its so why to preach!why gita!why guru!why iskcon itself! can we imagine that cannibals and uncivilized people will become god conscious without having a guru!why not we use mundane examples to make a point clear!
The vedic literatures are like a huge pharmacy containing different prescriptions (ways and means for moksha)for different persons of different aptitute. A guru is the one who is the confidential servant of the supreme lord and sent by him for that fortunate soul who filters and prescribes the best path suitable for a jivatma who is very anxious to attain the lord. Without a Sri Guru; a candidate is sure to get bewildered in the spiritual journey on the way back home back to godhead.
The discussion was about the necessity of accepting a guru, where did illness and disease of sadhus come into the picture, kindly clarify why you posted the previous verses.
Yes a devotees 'suffering' is apparent. As long as we have the material body sufferings keep coming. Simply by seeing someone undergo material tribulations we cannot discard them as not being a sadhu. Because even though to the mundane eye it looks like suffering the devotees are not truly affected by them. For instance Srila Prabhupada suffered two heart attacks on board Jaladuta when he was travelling to US for the first time. But if it were not for him you and I wouldn't be quoting from the Bhagavatam in previous answers.
So it is wrong to conclude that only a person who maintains high health standards are real sadhus and others bogus. Thus is why we need to gurus so that we may not make wrongful conclusions simply by reading sastra.
Yes sadhus do not suffer material miseries, but we should not take only the external aspect of it into consideration. To the outer vision they may look sick but internally they are not subject to any suffering, because of their position of being a devotee.
Even during the time of Caitanya Mahaprabhu, Srila Sanatana Gosvami got boils all over his body but nevertheless he remained an exalted sadhu.
Therefore kindly discard this line of argument for gauging a devotee's purity by externally evaluating his sufferings, we have no clue what is going on inside.
So even if we see some senior ISKCON devotees suffering they are still completely eligible to give us spiritual guidance and diksha. We cannot say since he has got so and so disease externally he is not a sadhu.
Guru is the conduit who connects the finite to the infinite. A guru may appear to be a physical person but actually he is the direct representative of the Guru Tattva or the principle that is universal which guides the seeker to the final destination of the living entity.