HAre Krishna !
PAMHO,
If a soul is unable to complete its devotion in this lifetime so will that soul goes to higher planets( like jana lok, tap lok etc). 1st and then come back again on earth or can that soul go to heaven also .
and if that soul, whose some part of devotional life is incomplete, goes to heaven then can this soul get opportunity for sadhu sanga and bhakti in heaven also before coming back to earth to complete its devotion or in heaven we can't do bhakti and devotees'association?
can someone please answer🙏
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Can this soul get opportunity for sadhu sanga and bhakti in heaven also before coming back to earth ?
Yes, living beings in higher planets can get opportunity for doing bhakti and association. Examples of great devotees in higher planets - Lord Brahma, Sun god - Vivasvan, Narada muni, Brihaspati etc.
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THanku so much prabhuji for providing this information and examples of great devotees of lord.
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If a person who cannot do bhakti can't go to heaven. Such a person goes to swarga loka, janaloka or other realms and lives their according to the time they have done good deeds. Then they must go to hell and suffer the punishments for any sins they have done in their lifeand they are reborn in another species and the cycle continues. However, if you have lived a bhakti-less life then after death, you may go to tapaloka or Badrikashram (abode of Nar-Narayan) and do tap there so that you may have a chance to be human again and get a chance to do bhakti. Only after you have done bhakti and have no attachment for others except God, can you go to Heaven (Goloka). Having contact with a pious holy devotee can help you stay in Satsang (devotion). A great example of this is the story of Jadbharata.
okay mataji .
thanku so much for explaining it by giving the example of jadbharata which shows that association of devotees can do miracles in our lives.
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Hare Krishna Mata ji,
People go to heaven only when they did some pious karma in this life time. For suppose you did lot of pious activities like charity and built temple, did donate food to poor etc. You get the chance to stay in the heaven for just that much time period as long as the results of pious activities are there in store. As soon as the good karma results end. You are thrown to Earth or hell.
See, Every person does some good karma and some bad karma knowingly and unknowingly also. The result of the karma are to be either suffered in hell ( bad karmic effects results) or enjoyed ( fruits of good karma). Now everyone has to visit both hell and heaven. When u die, you visit Lord Yama there ur account is opened to see how much good karma u did and how much bad karma you did. depending on that. you will be getting some part of time to stay in hell, and some part of time to stay in heaven. When ur time period of stay in both hell and heaven is done. You are getting a chance to have a birth on earth again to go ahead and practise bhakti to attain higher planets.
Heaven is just like 3 star hotel. Where you get to stay temporarily for some time. This place is not convinient for practising bhakti yoga as you are in enjoying and entertaining mode full on. There is everytype of facility to enjoy you cannot sit and think about God. That place you get all ur needs fulfilled.
See a person looks for God or searches for God only when he loses interest in all the facilities provided. Now this place you think of wine.. wine is ready.. you just think about sensual pleasure everything is ready. Then one rarely looks and searches for God. isn't it? When you are on Earth itself if you get some little vaibhav ( little more money) you start to feel you are great pride immediately creeps in. You can understand what is happening in heaven. Only a very very pious soul can control his senses there. On Earth itself it is becoming so difficult to control senses and sit and chant 2 hours. Is it possible for us to control all our senses and sit and chant? Yes there is even presence of demigods and so many great sages Like Narad ji, Brigu muni, Devarshi Brihaspati ( devon ke guru), Indra, Chandra, surya God, Brahma all keep coming and visiting , you can surely get great devotee association why not. But the thing is our senses are not in our control there. There is full facility availble to make ur senses go as they wish. Its Rare to find such a soul who can control all his senses and focus on Krishna. No doubt there were devotees in the past you did get to stay in heaven and yet practised Bhatki and became great devotees LIKE VRITTASURA. A great devotee of Lord Narayana. ( the katha of Vrittasura comes in Srimad Bhagwatam). Who practised Bhakti when he got to stay in heaven, and went back to Vaikunta.
That Heaven position is suitable for practise of bhakti do we get devotee association is a matter of choice. See On Earth also.. You chose ur sangathi. There is good and bad on Earth also. If you are pious soul your choice is going to temple and finding like minded devotees doing bhakti. If you are dusht atma your choice will be going to clubs, movies parties enjoyment. It depends on you. On heaven also you have both facilities in full fledged. If you chose good devoteee association wow you get to even have association of great sages who keep visting Lord Indra now and then. The Vasus, the demigods like Sun god, Maruts they are not ordinary people. They did a lot of pious activities to get that positions. You can be with them and learn Bhakti by serving them also. But There also it al depends on ur choice.
Even Demigods that is why they wish to get human birth that too In India that too in a devotee family after completion of stay in Heaven. Why so? They want to practise bhakti and reach the final destination that is Goloka Dhaam. They don't want to halt at any point and keep coming back and forth.
One more thing FYI
doing good karma and pious activities is totally different from doing Bhakti yoga.
Pls. don't misunderstand between these two things. Many a times people think bhakti is doing good karma pious activities. But it is wrong.
Bhakti makes all our karmas Akarma. Even one time if you take Lord's name even in hurry or haste at the time of death. You don't have to visit the hell. When you practise bhatki yoga by chanting the Lord's names firstly you burn ur past bad karmic effects and when past bad karma are gone. The present karma and its effects also slowely removed and at one stage you become neutral ( no bad no good karma left). That is Akarma stage. Then you are eligible for going back to Godhead. Neither good karma should be there nor bad karma should be there in ur account balance. Balance should be zero. And Bhagwan ka naam akela his yeh kar sakta hai. By doing some pious activites you cannot burn all karma away.
Even if u have one good karma left also in ur account you have to enjoy the result of the good karma done so you have to either take birth on Earth or get to stay in heaven.
Look Yudhistra was a pious soul. He did always good karma never harmed anyone. But he had to take birth on planet Earth only becuase he had lot of good karma in his account to enjoy that he has come to Earth. And when leaving Earth he did only one bad karma ( just told one white lie in the war) for which his chariot was brought a little lower then others in position. Did you know Yudhistra's chariot was always 1 feet above the ground? that came down as he told one white lie. for that small mistake he was made to see hellish condition for a second ( ofcourse he was not taken to hell) but just made to see it in mental vision. Because of all the good karma he did King Yudhishtra got to stay in heaven. Now the good karma results also have to enjoyed.
Bhakti even if u do a bit of it in this life time ( you take Harinama) then you cannot go to hell at all. You get a human body in an aristrocratic ( devotee family) condusive atmosphere to continue your bhakti on Earth itself and no karma will stick to you as Harinama will be countering all karmas and making you internally Akarmic.
Hope its clear.
Hare Krishna.
okay mataji......Thanku so much mataji for providing a detailed information about heaven.🙏
It is very very helpful mataji
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Hare KRsna Mataji,
PAMHO.
It is mentioned in Gita that one who starts on the spiritual path, but is unable to complete his sadhana in one birth, that sadhana is not lost. He is able to continue from where he was in previous birth in next birth. Atleast, he is gvien the facility. The choice is always his, whether he wants to follow or not. Sucinaam Srimatam Gehe Yoga bhrashtobhi Jayate - such a person is born in aristocratic or pious family.
Even more rare is being born in family of devotees, as mentioned in next shloka.
If a soul does pious activities with the intention to enjoy in the heavenly planets, he will reach there.
Nornally, one goes to heaven to enjoy. The facilities to enjoy are so many that it is not possible to do sadhana further to progress out of this material world. So, once the pious karma are over, the soul returns to earth.
Haribol,
Your servant,
Radha Rasamayi DD
okay mataji,
now i understood that why even demigods want to take birth on earth.
thanku so much for the information Mataji.🙏
HAre Krishna !