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Get to Heaven faster if you hang with the wise men?

Posted by Neophyte on August 14, 2018 at 1:21am in Krishna

Hi

One of my favourite musicians/artists of all time, the Rza, is quoted as saying as follows:

Krishna said that you can study all day, pray all day,
chant all day, but you’ll get to Heaven faster if you hang
with wise men

Paraphrased perhaps. I am just wondering if anybody could tell me what text, chapter and verse this might come from? The Gita? Perhaps another holy book?

Many thanks

Hare Krishna!

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  • Volunteer
    kŗşņa dasa August 19, 2018 at 6:19am

    Hare krsna...

    Prabhupad said "if you hang with the wise men, you will get Krsna prem (love for krsna)".

    One has to decide if he wants heaven or krsna prem.

    All glories to Srila Prabhupad!!!!

    Hare krsna.

  • E-Counselor
    Radha Rasamayi DD August 17, 2018 at 12:32pm

    Hare KRsna Prabhuji,

    PAMHO.

    There seems to be some issue with the statement mentioned by you. Throughout Gita, Krsna has downplayed the importance of heaven and said people of less intelligence want to go to heaven. Heaven is like a 15 star resort. Once one's pious karma is exhausted, one has to return to earth to go through the fruits of paap karma.

    Haribol,

    Your servant,

    Radha Rasamayi DD

  • Gayatri August 15, 2018 at 9:47pm

    Hare Krishna Prabhu ji.,

    SB 11.3.23 — A sincere disciple should learn to dissociate the mind from everything material and positively cultivate association with his spiritual master and other saintly devotees. He should be merciful to those in an inferior position to him, cultivate friendship with those on an equal level and meekly serve those in a higher spiritual position. Thus he should learn to deal properly with all living beings.

    SB 11.3.29 — One who desires his ultimate self-interest should cultivate friendship with those persons who have accepted Kṛṣṇa as the Lord of their life. One should further develop an attitude of service toward all living beings. One should especially try to help those in the human form of life and, among them, especially those who accept the principles of religious behavior. Among religious persons, one should especially render service to the pure devotees of the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

    SB 11.3.30 — One should learn how to associate with the devotees of the Lord by gathering with them to chant the glories of the Lord. This process is most purifying. As devotees thus develop their loving friendship, they feel mutual happiness and satisfaction. And by thus encouraging one another they are able to give up material sense gratification, which is the cause of all suffering.
    SB 11.3.31 — The devotees of the Lord constantly discuss the glories of the Personality of Godhead among themselves. Thus they constantly remember the Lord and remind one another of His qualities and pastimes. In this way, by their devotion to the principles of bhakti-yoga, the devotees please the Personality of Godhead, who takes away from them everything inauspicious. Being purified of all impediments, the devotees awaken to pure love of Godhead, and thus, even within this world, their spiritualized bodies exhibit symptoms of transcendental ecstasy, such as standing of the bodily hairs on end.
    SB 11.3.33 — Thus learning the science of devotional service and practically engaging in the devotional service of the Lord, the devotee comes to the stage of love of Godhead. And by complete devotion to the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Nārāyaṇa, the devotee easily crosses over the illusory energy, māyā, which is extremely difficult to cross.
    I found these quotes from SB most suitable for the statement.
    developing friendship with saintly people surely one can cross the maya, and reach Goloka what to say of heaven.. Heaven is not that we desire. Those people who reach heaven are bound to come back to earth when their results of good karmas end. But once you reach Goloka there is not returning back as the jiva ( soul) found its ultimate destination ( Lord Sri Krishna) .
    Hare Krishna.
    SB 11.3.23
    Śrīla Madhvācārya has quoted from the Garuḍa Purāṇa to demonstrate that within this universe those who take birth as demigods, great ṛṣis or pious hu…
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