Hare Krishna devotees, sorry for my long absence on the platform, this time not a question but just a discussion on how there are numerous examples of great devotees who suffered a lot before being pacified by the presence of Lord before them like mother Devaki who had to bear the unimaginable pain of her six infants being mercilessly killed by her own brother. The common thing between all such devotees was that they suffered all these penances because their faith in the plan of the lord was unflinching while many devotees these days lose their faith on account of little sufferings in their life. They wan't immediate relief from their problems and for that they pray to the lord but when they don't recieve it immediately they abandon their faith in the plan of krishna and turn atheists. This time i want the devotee community to help me put out some examples of the devotees who suffered a lot in their life but their unflinching faith in Lord provided them eternal relief so that i and more others can learn from them.
One or more stories of such devotees by the devotees (in forum) would be a great help.

Hare Krishna🙏.    

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  • Hare Krishna Chetan Prabhu,

    Bhakti comes to us in two ways. One is with fear and one is with love.

    One who fear God will pray and is very obedient and respectful to God. Look at Kamsa his whole life he was fearing that Krishna will come in which direction and would attack him. everything he ate, drank also he was fearing thinking it might have been piosoned. If you are fearing some calamity and praying to God that means you are fearful and seeking protection. Those who come in this category they eventually lose faith when the problems are solved.

    Those who love God are not having any fear at all. They actually fear that something might happen to Krishna.

    There is a hell lot of difference between fearing of problems and holding feet of krishna for protection and loving Krishna and fearing Krishna might be in danger.

    Look at the love of Brajwasi's esp. Yashoda maiyya and Nand maharaj...They were fearing not problems on them. They feared that some demon might attack Lord.

    Look at the love of Devaki. She was tortured by the her own brother ( brutally killing babies born to her in front of her eyes). But what Devaki feared you know??????????????

    when Lord was born to her with SHANK, CHAKRA, GADHA, Padma ( 4 hands ) equipped with all the weapons, tiny baby with 4 hands.. . instead of feeling happy or instead of feeling that He the slayer of her brother is born.. she covered immediately the baby boy's arms and cried to Lord. "Hey Bhagwan, you are so tiny baby now. How can I protect you from the evil Kamsa. If He sees you He might attack you immediately. Please become normal so that you can pass unnoticed and stay safe away from Kamsa at least until you are grown up."

    This is Devaki's love. 

    Yashoda maiyya said-- so many demons attacking my son now and than.....how to protect him from these demons was the first priority in her mind. She did took the Go mata's tail and did 3 rounds around the baby Krishna and said Hey Narayan protect my son's arms. Hey narayan, protect my son's legs, protect my son's tummy. .. like that each part she did removed the evil eye on Her baby.

    There is no comparision between love of pure devotees and those seek shelter from some calamity.

    You know what .. faith should be so strong that come what maybe Krishna will protect me. Than there is no fear at all isn't it?

    Devaki when she came to know that from Akashwani that time itself she was totally relieved that Narayan would descend and protect her than what to fear. She was more fearless than anyone else. But it is natural for a mother to feel sad for the babies being killed in front of her eyes. But she was quite sure that some day Lord will come slay the cruel Kamsa.

    Kunti devi asked for more troubles because in troubles Lord was with them helping them. Not all would ask troubles. We generally want trouble free life. But when we are having no troubles we don't even remember God for even a second. That is our nature.

    Dukh mein sumiran sab karein..

    Sukh mein karein na koi..

    jo Sukh mein sumiran karein..

    dukh kaahe hoye???

    Kabir das doha so relavant here.

    When we have dukh ( calamities) we do naturally remember God nothing great about it. But when we are fully satisfied and happy are you remembering God? is the question. If you did then why would anyone have any troubles at all?

    When you had good time in past life......you didn't remember Sri HARI at all. In ignorance you did many many bad karma. ( BECAUSE ONE WHO REMEMBERS KRISHNA AT ALL TIMES WILL NEVER DO BAD KARMA AT ALL). If he never did bad karma... TODAY HE WOULD NOT BE FACING THE ILLEFECTS OF THE KARMA DONE previously in past life times.

    All what we are facing now (troubles in our lives) is due to our forgetfulness of Krishna in past lives is it not???

    IT all boils down to one thing that is........You should remember Lord even when you are in bad state or good state.

    those who love Krishna they don't fear of either past or present life.. they are always busy in protecting Lord and enjoying Lord's company in full time 24/7 in ecstacy. For such people there have sama drishti for calamities or good state. 

    Hare Krishna.

     

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    Hare Krsna Prabhuji,

    PAMHO.

    One can read the teachings of Qeen Kunti to get inspiration on how the pandavas and their mother crossed all obstacles by remembering Lord Krsna. Their love for the lord is so strong that when the lord was returning after the Kurukshetra war, Queen Kunti, His father's sister, held the reins of His chariot and prayed for all the problems to come back, so that they could get continued association of the lord. For her, problems were nothing if she could get association of the lord. One thing to remember is that the problems faced by Queen Kunti and her sons were life threatening at all times. 

    Another example of unflnching faith is dear Prahlad Maharaj. His love for the lord and his faith in the lord was so single pointed that all the attacks by his father were dispelled without Prahlad feeling any distress. It was only his single minded devotion to the lord that this was possible.

    Haribol,

    Your servant,

    Radha Rasamayi DD

     

  • Well if the sinful person , goes to temple and asks krsna to purify his sins in one day is not possible. We have to take attonment-prayaschita for our sins. By chanting and by serving in temple and to vaishanavs one can destroy his sins after long time.  and thats why many devotees think , oh I am chanting and why i am still suffering? the fact is king dashrath the father of lord sri ram was cursed because of killing sravan and he had to bear it in the end. Pitamaha bhishma had to sleep on bed of arrows? why? purification goes on till last breath. What to talk of those who hurt and trouble devotees? better read the book "bhakt maal" it is book full of passtimes of all devotees of lord ram and krsna till now and see how devotees reached to the perfection in the past. 

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