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  • 3f21ivo10p1mx February 23, 2015 at 1:29am
     
     mataji  nicely explained 4 kinds of gurus, so lets see the 4th.2540966906?profile=original
    SB 8.24.46 — The King said: By the grace of the Lord, those who have lost their self-knowledge since time immemorial, and who because of this ignorance are involved in a material, conditional life full of miseries, obtain the chance to meet the Lord’s devotee. I accept that Supreme Personality of Godhead as the supreme spiritual master.
    SB 8.24.47 — In hopes of becoming happy in this material world, the foolish conditioned soul performs fruitive activities that result only in suffering. But by rendering service to the Supreme Personality of Godhead, one becomes free from such false desires for happiness. May my supreme spiritual master cut the knot of false desires from the core of my heart.
    SB 8.24.48 — One who wants to be free of material entanglement should take to the service of the Supreme Personality of Godhead and give up the contamination of ignorance, involving pious and impious activities. Thus one regains his original identity, just as a block of gold or silver sheds all dirt and becomes purified when treated with fire. May that inexhaustible Supreme Personality of Godhead become our spiritual master, for He is the original spiritual master of all other spiritual masters.
    SB 8.24.49 — Neither all the demigods, nor the so-called gurus nor all other people, either independently or together, can offer mercy that equals even one ten-thousandth of Yours. Therefore I wish to take shelter of Your lotus feet.
    SB 8.24.50 — As a blind man, being unable to see, accepts another blind man as his leader, people who do not know the goal of life accept someone as a guru who is a rascal and a fool. But we are interested in self-realization. Therefore we accept You, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, as our spiritual master, for You are able to see in all directions and are omniscient like the sun.
    SB 8.24.51 — A materialistic so-called guru instructs his materialistic disciples about economic development and sense gratification, and because of such instructions the foolish disciples continue in the materialistic existence of ignorance. But Your Lordship gives knowledge that is eternal, and the intelligent person receiving such knowledge is quickly situated in his original constitutional position.
    SB 8.24.52 — My Lord, You are the supreme well-wishing friend of everyone, the dearmost friend, the controller, the Supersoul, the supreme instructor and the giver of supreme knowledge and the fulfillment of all desires. But although You are within the heart, the foolish, because of lusty desires in the heart, cannot understand You.
    SB 8.24.53 — O Supreme Lord, for self-realization I surrender unto You, who are worshiped by the demigods as the supreme controller of everything. By Your instructions, exposing life’s purpose, kindly cut the knot from the core of my heart and let me know the destination of my life.
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    in the past many humans in different religions accepted god as  guru, and because god accepts every ones mood,
    he accepts the offer to be guru, father , friend ,master ,lover...
    sri Haridasa said:      
     "All living entities in creation are inspired by the Lord in the heart to act in different ways. People of different religions praise the Lord's holy names and qualities according to the view of their scriptures. The Supreme Lord accepts everyone's mood. If anyone shows malice towards another's religion he ac­tually shows malice to the Lord Himself, who is worshiped by that religion. Since God is one, that person becomes envious of the same Supreme Lord that he himself is
    worshiping."
    by reading srimad bhagavatam with faith, soon all problems, confusions and illusion will be cleared,
    as the sun clear all the clouds on the sky after the rain.
     
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    Radha Rasamayi DD February 20, 2015 at 10:40am

    Hare Krsna Prabhuji,

    PAMHO.

    There are 4 kinds of guru as per Srimad Bhagawatam. 1) Path pradarshak guru - the person who shows you the path to Krsna, 2) Diksha guru - the devotee who promises to take you back to God, 3) Shiksha guru - this can be more than one. Anyone and everyone from whom you can learn something about spirituality, 4) Chaitya guru - paramatma sitting in everyone's heart.

    Now coming to your question - 1) and 2) above need not be there in person at all times. For this, Srila Prabhupada had given an example of a mosquito. He said at this point in time, this mosquito is closest to me, but how much do you think I am enjoying the company of this mosquito and how much fo you think the mosquito is becoming Krsna Conscious because of my association. (dont remember exact words, this was the gist). 3) can be anyone - again Srimad Bhagawatam gives example of how a true seeker can learn even from a prostitute - the famous Pingla story - aasha hi paramam dukham.... 4) is with us always. Paramatma will guide us depending on our level of surrender to Him.

    I hope I have answered your question to your satisfaction.

    Haribol,

    Your servant,

    Rashmi

    • Pandora Hinson > Radha Rasamayi DD February 20, 2015 at 3:14pm

      Hare Krishna

      If someone is not chanting 16 rounds every single day, can they still get a "Shiksha Guru"? Or is it best to wait a year after one does chant 16 rounds every single day before they ask someone to be their Shiksha Guru?

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        Radha Rasamayi DD > Pandora Hinson February 20, 2015 at 4:11pm

        Hare Krsna Pandora Mataji,

        PAMHO.

        You need a shiksha guru to come to the level of 16 rounds na. Anybody and everybody who even clarifies your doubts and move you forwards towards Krsna is a shiksha guru.

        Haribol,

        YOur servant,

        Rashmi

        • Pandora Hinson > Radha Rasamayi DD February 22, 2015 at 7:37am

          Hare Krishna Rashmi Khaitan

          Thank you. I do indeed need a shiksha guru. I have contacted the one I want to be my shiksha Guru

  • Aravind S February 20, 2015 at 10:20am

    Hare Krishna Prabhuji,

                                     Yes,We need a Guru.Without Guru Mercy  We can't  goback to godhead.

     Here it is This link will be more useful for you http://vedabase.net/bg/4/34/en

             

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