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  • To differentiate between Shri Ram and Shri Krishna means to open the door of Hell. There is no difference between the two, both are the same. Second, you asked the question, if the feelings of both remain the same, then Yes ,the feelings of both remain the same.

    Next question you asked is Shri Ram a human incarnation of Shri Krishna? This is absolutely wrong question, Lord Shri Ram is not an incarnation of Shri Krishna. It is not directly written anywhere in the scriptures, if you sit down to find a new meaning by twisting the scriptures, then the matter is different. But Shri Krishna is the incarnation of Shri Ram, it is completely written in the scriptures.

    Hold Your Seats~ 

    1) यो वै वसति गोलोके द्विभुजस्तु धनुर्धर: ।सदानन्दमयो रामो येन विश्वमिदं ततम् ।।

    ( सदाशिवसंहिता )

    One who resides in Goloka (ie Krishna) is none other than the incarnation of the two armed Rāma who wields Bow and arrow in his hands. The two armed Ram is very form of the supreme eternal bliss, and from him this entire cosmos came into existence. Rama has prevaded the entire creation. 

     

    2.

    शुद्धिर्भविष्यति पुरन्दरनंदन! त्वं मामेव चेदहह! पातकिनं शयानम्।

    सौख्यार्थिनं निरपराधिनमाहनिष्यस्यस्मात्पुनर्जनकजाविरहोऽस्तु मा मे।।

    (Hanuman natak 5.57)

    Shri ram says " o surpati Kumar Bali! When you will kill me when I will be yog nidra ,(krishna avtar) , then you will get your revenge. At that time, i will not have this loneliness after sita was kidnapped.

     

    3.

    रुद्रादीनां वचः श्रृत्वा प्रोवाच भगवान् स्वयं।

    अंगयंग करिष्यामि भवद्वाक्यं करोमि अहम्।।

    (Krishna upanishad)

    Then rudras and other devas also started praying to Ram to participate in his ras lila. Then swaym bhagwan shri Rama told them that he will make them as his associates in next incarnation.

     

    4.

    सर्वे पृथक् पृथक् जाताः संख्यः श्रीरामसन्निधौ।

    असंख्यता मुनिश्रेष्ठाः सख्य एव न संशयः।।

    (Aadi Ramayan 4.28.25 a &26b)

    All rishi muni have done penance differently to participate in shri ram's lila , and he assured that he will fulfill their wish during krishna avtar.

     

    5.

    को वा ज्ञातुं त्वामतिमानं गतमानं मायासक्तो माधव शक्तो मुनिमान्यम्।

    वृन्दारण्ये वन्दितवृन्दारवृन्दं वन्दे रामं भवमुखवन्द्य सुखकन्दं।।

     

    (Adhyatm ramayan yudh kand 13.16)

     

    Nobody can ever know you who is connected with Maya. You are even recerred by maharishis, o raghav! You will incarnate as krishna who will be adored in Vrindavan and will be worshipped by shiva, indra and other gods

     

    6.

    उतिष्ठ उतिष्ठ कालिंदि श्रृनु त्वं वचनं मम्।

    द्वापरे कृष्णरुपेण त्वा करिष्यामि अहम् स्त्रियम्।

    (Anand Ramayan rajya kand purva ardha 12.117)

    Shri Ram says - o kalindi! Stand up, listen , during Dwapar yug, i will incarnate as krishna and make you as my wife.

    Lord Shri Krishna himself chants the name of Shri Ram, what should I say to others?

    (श्री कृष्ण उवाच अर्जुन के प्रति)

     

    1) राम नाम सदा प्रेम्णा संस्मरामि जगद्गुरूम् ।

    क्षणं न विस्मृतिं याति सत्यं सत्यं वचो मम ॥

    (श्री आदि-पुराण)

    मैं! जगद्गुरु श्रीराम के नाम का निरंतर प्रेम पूर्वक स्मरण करता रहता हूँ, क्षणमात्र भी नहीं भूलता हूँ । अर्जुन मैं सत्य सत्य कहता हूँ ।

     

    2) The same mantra that Shri Ram gave to Hanuman, Shri Krishna giving it to Yudhishthira and saying,

    श्री कृष्ण उवाच युधिष्ठिर के प्रति~

     

    रामनाम्नः परं नास्ति मोक्ष लक्ष्मी प्रदायकम्।

    तेजोरुपं यद् अवयक्तं रामनाम अभिधियते।

    (श्रीमद् वाल्मीकियानंद रामायण~८/७/१६)

    श्रीकृष्ण युधिष्ठिर से कहते हैं किस शास्त्र में ऐसा कोई भी मंत्र वर्णित नहीं है जो श्रीराम के नाम के बराबर हो जो ऐश्वर्य (धन) और मुक्ति दोनों देने में सक्षम हो। श्रीराम का नाम स्वयं ज्योतिर्मय नाम कहा गया है, जिसको मैं भी व्यक्त नहीं कर सकता।

     

    4) He gave a very famous mantra to Yudhishthir

    श्रीकृष्ण उवाच~युधिष्ठिर के प्रति

     

    मंत्रा नानाविधाः सन्ति शतशो राघवस्य च। 

    तेभ्यस्त्वेकं वदाम्यद्य तव मंत्रं युधिष्ठिर।। 

    श्रीशब्धमाद्य जयशब्दमध्यंजयद्वेयेनापि पुनःप्रयुक्तम्। 

    अनेनैव च मन्त्रेण जपः कार्यः सुमेधसा।

    ( श्रीमद् वाल्मीकियानंद रामायण, 9~7.44,45a,46a)

    वैसे तो श्रीराघाव के अनेक मन्त्र हैं, किन्तु युधिष्ठिर उनमें से एक उत्तम मन्त्र मैं तुमको बतलाता हूँ । पूर्वमें श्रीराम शब्द, मध्यमें जय शब्द और अन्तमें दो जय शब्दोंसे मिला हुआ (श्रीराम जय राम जय जय राम) राममन्त्र। बुद्धिमान जनों को सिर्फ इसी मंत्र का जाप करना चाहिए।

     

     

     

    5) रामस्याति प्रिय नाम रामेत्येव सनातनम्।

    दिवारात्रौ गृणन्नेषो भाति वृन्दावने स्थितः ।।

    (श्री शुक संहिता)

    श्री राम नाम भगवान राम को सबसे प्रिय नाम है और यह नाम भगवान राघव का शाश्वत नाम है। श्रीराम के इस शाश्वत नाम का जप करने से भगवान कृष्ण वृंदावन में सुशोभित होते हैं।

     

    Your third question was why Ayodhya is in Vaikunth?

    Firstly, in the scriptures, Ayodhya has been called the origin of all vaikuntha.

    ॐ याऽयोध्या सा सर्वबैकुण्ठानामेव मूलाधारा प्रकृतेः परा तत्सद् ब्रह्ममयी विरजोत्तरा दिव्यरत्नकोशाढ्या तस्या नित्यमेव श्रीसीतारामयोर्विहारस्थलमस्ति।।

    (इति अथर्ववेदे उत्तरार्द्ध)

    प्रकृति से परात्पर, सत्यस्वरूप, ब्रह्ममयी जो अयोध्या है वह समस्त बैकुण्ठ लोकों की भी मूलाधार है। इसके उत्तर में विरजा आदि नदियां प्रकाशित होती है और दिव्य रत्नों से मण्डित कोश (मण्डप) में नित्यरूप से श्रीसीताराम जी की विहार स्थली विद्यमान है। '

     

    2) (श्री पद्मपुराण ६.२२८.१, १०-१२)

    त्रिपाद्विभूतेर्लोकास्तु असंख्याताः प्रकीर्तिताः ।

    शुद्धसत्वमयाः सर्वे ब्रह्मानंदसुखायाः ॥ 

    तद्विष्णोः परमंधाम यांति ब्रह्मसुखप्रदम्।

    नानाजनपदाकीर्णं वैकुण्ठं तद्धरेः पदम्॥

    प्राकारैश्चविमानैश्चसौधैरत्नमयैर्वृतम् । 

    तन्मध्ये नगरी दिव्या साऽयोध्येति प्रकीर्तिता॥

    मणिकांचनचित्राढ्य प्राकारैस्तोरणैर्वृता ।

     

    "There are innumerable divine abodes (e.g. various abodes of gods and goddesses [Mahābrahmā, Mahāshambhu, Durgā-devi etc], and many Vaikunthas of the various Avataras of Vishnu, Dvārika, Mathura Puri, Goloka-Vrindāvana, etc) in Tripadvibhūti (beyond the divine virajā river); and all of those are made up of Shuddha-sattva and all filled with supreme bliss of Brahm (Brahmananda)!

     

    Beyond all those, there is the supreme abode of Vishnu (i.e. Ādi-Vaikuntha). The devotees and servants of Lord's lotus-feet reside in the supreme (Adi-)Vaikuntha lōka, that Supreme abode of Bhagavān Vishnu, the very embodiment and bestower of the bliss of Brahm.

     

    At the very center of that (Adi Vaikuntha lōka in the Paramavyōm) is situated the divine city renowned by the name of Ayodhyā, which is adorned and filled all around by amazing multi storied buildings and picturesque Vimaans."

     One thing must have been proved to you by this that Ayodhya is the origin of all Vaikuntha and lives in the middle.

     

    Now come to vedas 

    (अथर्ववेद त्रिपाद्विभूतिमहानारायणोपनिषत्)

    तच्चालौकिकपरमानन्दलक्षणाखण्डामिततेजोराशिर्ज्वलति ।

    तच्चानिर्वाच्यमनिर्देश्यमखण्डानन्दैकरसात्मकं भवति । 

    तत्रमध्यमपादमध्यप्रदेशेऽमिततेजःप्रवाहाकारतया नित्यवैकुण्ठं विभाति ।

     

    वह त्रिपाद ब्रह्मांड के पारलौकिक आनंद का एक अखंड स्वरूप है। जहां से अथाह मात्रा में सदैव तेज प्रकाशित होता रहता है, वह अनिर्वचनीय, अटूट और पूर्ण रसमस है। उस त्रिपाद के मध्य में नित्य बैकुंठ है जिसके मध्य क्षेत्र (अयोध्या) से अपार तेज का प्रवाह होता रहता है।

    I am not giving the description of Atharvaveda, there is much written about Ayodhya.

     

    Not only this, Ayodhya is also in the opinion of Goloka along with Vaikunth.

    (Vashistha Samhita)

    वरेण्या सर्वलोकानां हिरण्मयचिन्मया जया ।

    अयोध्या नन्दिनी सत्या राजिता अपराजिता ॥

    कल्याणी राजधानी या त्रिपादस्य निराश्रया ।

    गोलोकहृदयस्थाच संस्था सा साकेतपुरी

    I am not translating the whole verse just the last verse which means Saket's  whole settlement is in the heart of Goloka.

    (As the capital of a king resides in the middle of the country, so Saket is in the middle of Goloka).

     

    If you are going now, then you should listen to the glory of Ayodhya.

    मथुराद्याः पुरी सर्वा अयोध्यापुरदासिकाः ।

    अयोध्यामेव सेवन्ते प्रलयेऽप्रलयेऽपि वा ॥

    (इति पद्मपुराण)

    मथुरा आदि समस्त पुरिया अयोध्या पुरी की दासियां है। प्रलय तथा सृष्टिकाल दोनों अवसरों पर ये पुरियां दासभाव से अयोध्या जी की सेवा करती है।

     

    I sincerely hope that you will be satisfied with my arguments and will not differentiate between Lord Shri Ram and Lord Shri Krishna.

    Jay Shri Sitaram 

    Jay Shri RadheShyam 

    Jay Shri Ramanandacharya 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  • Sevak

    Hare Krsna 

    What are the difference between Krishna and Rama?

    They both are manifestations of supreme personality of godhead.

    The difference is in their purpose and pastimes

     Do they have same feeling and emotions

    They have different moods

    Lord Rama descended in Treta yuga. His purpose was to establish exemplary principles for the people in material world to follow. He set ideal example as a son, brother, husband, king etc. Lord Rama is personification of ideal duty over love. 

    Lord Krsna descended in Dvapara yuga. His purpose was to show a glimpse of the greatness of the most exalted devotees of Krsna - namely gopis. In addition he also performed many pastimes as an exemplary king, friend, husband etc. But lord Krsna would sometimes break worldly rules, duty etc for the sake of reciprocating love with His devotees. Lord Krsna personifies love over duty. Love here refers to spiritual love not mundane sex type love. 

    If Rama is human incarnation of Krishna then why does have his own abode ayodhya in vaikuntha?

    Rama is avatar of Supreme personality of Godhead among humans. Lord Rama is not Human. 

    Lord Rama is eternally present in Ayodhya Dhama in spiritual world where he eternally performs pastimes with his devotee associates. 

    YS Bharat

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