Why the emphasis on actual? ISKCON has one attitude on caste - chaturvarnyam maya srishtam, guna karma vibhagasha - the four varnas (Brahmana, Kshatriya, Vaishya and Shudra) and 4 ashramas (Brahmacari, girhasta, vanaprasta and sanyas) are made by Lord Sri Krsna, as confirmed in Gita and it is divided as per guna (activities) and karma (deeds).
Bharat > Radha Rasamayi DDDecember 7, 2015 at 10:30pm
Hare Krsna
Just to emphasize on what HG Radha Rasamayi Mataji has quoted from BG
chaturvarnyam maya srishtam,
guna karma vibhagasha
Krsna says society can be naturally classified into four based on guna(qualities) and karma(activities)[not birth or janma]
Originally the society functioned based on varnashrama based on qualities and activites.
The distorted version of this was birth based caste system in British ruled India which was badly shown by british rulers to destroy vedic culture and rule over India during that time.
So the right outlook is - Varnashrama is scientific and based on guna and karma as Krishna says in BG.
SB 11.17.15 — The various occupational and social divisions of human society appeared according to inferior and superior natures manifest in the situation of the individual’s birth.
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SB 11.17.16 — Peacefulness, self-control, austerity, cleanliness, satisfaction, tolerance, simple straightforwardness, devotion to Me, mercy and truthfulness are the natural qualities of the brāhmaṇas.
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SB 11.17.17 — Dynamic power, bodily strength, determination, heroism, tolerance, generosity, great endeavor, steadiness, devotion to the brāhmaṇas and leadership are the natural qualities of the kṣatriyas.
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SB 11.17.18 — Faith in Vedic civilization, dedication to charity, freedom from hypocrisy, service to the brāhmaṇas and perpetually desiring to accumulate more money are the natural qualities of the vaiśyas.
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SB 11.17.19 — Service without duplicity to the brāhmaṇas, cows, demigods and other worshipable personalities, and complete satisfaction with whatever income is obtained in such service, are the natural qualities of śūdras.
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SB 11.17.20 — Dirtiness, dishonesty, thievery, faithlessness, useless quarrel, lust, anger and hankering constitute the nature of those in the lowest position, outside the varṇāśrama system.
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Hare Krsna Prabhuji,
PAMHO.
Why the emphasis on actual? ISKCON has one attitude on caste - chaturvarnyam maya srishtam, guna karma vibhagasha - the four varnas (Brahmana, Kshatriya, Vaishya and Shudra) and 4 ashramas (Brahmacari, girhasta, vanaprasta and sanyas) are made by Lord Sri Krsna, as confirmed in Gita and it is divided as per guna (activities) and karma (deeds).
I hope I have explained to your satisfaction.
haribol,
Your servant,
Radha Rasamayi DD
Hare Krsna
Just to emphasize on what HG Radha Rasamayi Mataji has quoted from BG
chaturvarnyam maya srishtam,
guna karma vibhagasha
Krsna says society can be naturally classified into four based on guna(qualities) and karma(activities) [not birth or janma]
Originally the society functioned based on varnashrama based on qualities and activites.
The distorted version of this was birth based caste system in British ruled India which was badly shown by british rulers to destroy vedic culture and rule over India during that time.
So the right outlook is - Varnashrama is scientific and based on guna and karma as Krishna says in BG.
Birth based caste system is unscientific.
Hare Krsna