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Hare Krishna,

                     I have been chanting the Maha Mantra for some time now. But the question that keeps popping up in my mind is that - Why was I born into a Sikhism family ? Does not the fact that I was born into a Sikhism family mean that I should chant Vaheguru instead of the Maha-Mantra ? Otherwise why would have I been born into a Sikhism family ?

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  • Vaisnavism in Sikhism by Radhika Krpa Devi Dasi
    Jul 1, 2009 | Radhika Krpa Devi Dasi, Volume-06 Number-07 (Indian)

    The Sikh tradition is deeply rooted in Vaishnava principles
    as revealed by the teachings of great Sikh gurus.

    Vaishnavism in Sikhism

    For me, accepting Krishna consciousness was not hard, but being its member became a challenge. I was born to Sikh parents, married into a Hindu Punjabi family. My transformation from Randeep Anand to Radhika Krpa Devi Dasi, an initiated Krishna devotee in ISKCON, was the most decisive moment of my life. I was quite apprehensive of taking a right path at that crossroad of life. Inspiration, courage, and determination played a vital role. I had to confront queries, doubts, arguments that were often hit with a view to defy. Not ready to be defeated I stood the trial, as I was amidst two different faiths. I sought a solution which could pacify all. With the mercy of Srila Prabhupada and my spiritual master His Holiness Gopala Krishna Goswami, I immersed myself in the study of Sri Guru Grantha-sahib (the religious scripture of Sikhs) as well as Bhagavad-gita As It Is. I prayed to Sri Sri Radha Syamasundar to let me derive a conclusion that would satisfy all the rivals. They answered my prayers enlightening me to fathom the depth of both the scriptures. I could now clear most of the doubts and suspicions quite authentically quoting from the scriptures.

    Here are some enlightening thoughts and quotes that reveal a lot for the intelligentsia.

    The following are mystical lines from the sacred Sri Guru Grantha-sahib. This is a compilation of verses sung in the praise of Hari, Govinda, Rama and guru. The scripture recommends one to become a “Sikh” (sishya), or a disciple of the spiritual master, in order to attain the shelter of the lotus feet of the Lord. Sri Guru Grantha-sahib is composed in a poetic form in various classical ragas.

    Guru Nanakadevaji, the first Sikh guru, recites in the raga ramakali mahala 1, dakhni omkar as follows:

    Ik omkara satgur prasada
    Omkari brahma utpatti
    Omkarau kia jini citi
    Omkari saila juga bhaya
    Omkari veda nirmaya
    Omkari sabadi udhera
    Omkari gurmukhi tera
    Onama akhara sunahu bicaru
    Onama akhara tribhavana saru
    Suni pande kia likhahu janjala
    Likhu rama nama gurmukhi gopala

    Vaishnavism in Sikhism

    Translation: God is one and is realized by the grace of the guru. Absolute Truth Om is the creator of Brahma. Brahma stored Om in his heart, in his consciousness. Absolute Truth is the creator of mountains and eras (yugas). From the Absolute Truth came the Vedas, and Omkara is the word that liberates. By following the instructions of the guru and chanting Omkara the living entity achieves liberation. Hear and ponder the meaning of Om; it is the essence of the three worlds. Listen O pandey! Why do you pen down all the worldly deeds; write, by the mercy of the guru, only about the name of Rama and Gopala.

    Lord Krishna declares in Bhagavad-gita (7.8), pranavah sarva-vedesu: “I am syllable om in the Vedic mantras.” Thus there is no ambiguity about the real nature of the Absolute Truth. Guru Nanakadevaji also mentions how Krishna is the source of Brahma in Gujari mahala 1:

    Nabhi kamal te brahma upaje veda padahi mukhi kanthi savari
    ta ko antu na jai lakhna avata jat rahai gubari
    Pritama kiu bisarahi mere prana adhara
    Jaki bhagati karahi jana pure muni jana sevahi gura vicari||1||

    rahau ravi sasi dipaka ja ke tribhavani eka joti murari
    Gurmukhi hoi su ahinisi nirmalu manmukhi raini andhari

    Vaishnavism in Sikhism

    Translation: After appearing from the lotus stem originating from Lord Vishnu’s naval Brahma cleared his throat and got absorbed in the Vedas. He entered the stem of the lotus and traveled up and down but could not find the source of his creation. O my beloved Lord, how can one forget the Supreme on whom all are dependant? The devotees are absorbed in devotion to Him; the sages and the saints, under their guru’s instructions, are engrossed in serving Him. Sun, moon and stars all are created by Him; in all the three worlds, there is only one light: Murari. One who follows the instructions of the guru forever lives, but one who is a mental speculator forever wanders in the darkness.

    The lines below quite clearly portray the Supreme Lord, leaving nothing to imagination:

    Kanvala naina madhura baina koti saina sanga sobha kahata ma jasoda jisahi dahi bhatu khahi jiu.
    Dekhi rupa ati anupu moha maha maga bhai kinakani sabada jhanatakara khelu pahi jiu.
    kala kalama hukamu hathi kahahu kaunu meti sakai isu bramhu jnanu dhyanu dharata hiai cahi jiu.
    sati sacu srinivasu adi purukhu sada tuhi vahiguru vahiguru vahiguru vahi jiu ||1||6||

    Vaishnavism in Sikhism

    Translation: You have lotus like eyes, sweet words like honey, and millions of associates who glorify You. You are that Krishna, whom Mother Yasoda lovingly feeds curd and rice. Seeing Your most beautiful face she is captivated by motherly affection, and when You plays Your anklets and waist-belt make a melodious tinkeling sound. The pen that writes the order of death is in Your hand O Lord! Tell, who can escape it? Shiva and Brahma etc., want to bear the knowledge and meditation given by You within their hearts. You are the embodiment of Absolute Truth. Goddess Laxmi is Your maidservant and You are the oldest person (adi purusha), parabrahman. You are vaheguru, vaheguru, vaheguru. I glorify You eternally. ||1||6||

    Rama nama parama dhama sudha budha nirikara besumara sarabara kao kahi jio
    sudhara cita bhagata hita bhekhu dhario hirnakhsu hario nakh bidari jiu
    saìkha cakra gada padama apai aupu kiso chadama aparamapara parabhrama lakhai kaunu tahi jiu

    sati sacu srinivasu… ||2||7||

    Translation: Rama’s name is the ultimate abode and pure wisdom. You are infinite and have no material form. Who can match You? For the love of Your devotee You disguised Yourself as Sri Narasimhadeva, to tear apart Hiranyakashipu with Your nails. You bear conch, disc, mace, and lotus. You are the one who cheated King Bali (in Your form of Vamanadeva). O infinite Supreme God who can know You ?

    You are the Absolute Truth…||2||7||

    pita basan kuda dasana pria sahita kantha mala
    mukutu sisa mora pankha cahi jiu
    bey vazira bade dhira dharma anga alakha
    agama khelu kia apnai uchahi jiu
    akatha katha kathi na jai tini loka rahia
    samai sutaha sidha rupa dhario sahana kai sahi jiu

    sati sacu srinivasu … ||3||8||

    Vaishnavism in Sikhism

    Translation: Dressed in a yellowish attire, Your teeth are beautiful like buds of jasmine flower. You enjoy with Your consort (Srimati Radharani), wear a long garland made of forest flowers and a crown decorated with peacock feathers. You require no minister to render any advice; You are most patient; embodiment of religion, inaccessible, and You are the creator of this whole play, O lovable! O king of the kings, lovable, Your story cannot be narrated (to the full); You are pervading in the three worlds, and You can adopt any form You desire. You are the Absolute Truth… ||3||8||

    Nestled in the Svayya mahala 4 the lines quoted above define and glorify the Supreme Personality of Godhead. The Lord is addressed here as vaha guru.

    MEANING OF VAHE GURU

    The followers of Sikh tradition chant Satanama vaheguru. The meaning of word vahaguru is described by Bhai Gurdasaji in his book Vara. He is the one who penned down the Guru Grantha-sahib while the fifth guru Sri Arjunadevaji recited it. In the section of 1 of Vara, pavdi 49 he says:

    Satijugi satigura vasdev
    vava visna namu japavai

    duapari satiguru hari krisana
    ha ha hari hari namu japavai

    tete satiguru rama ji
    ra ra rama jape sukha pavai

    kalijugi nanaka gura govinda
    gaga govinda namu alavai

    care yagi cahu yugi panchina vica jai samavai
    caro aksara ika kara vahaguru japa mantara japavai

    jaha te upjia phira taha samavai

    Translation: In Satya-yuga to attain the Lord, meditation on the Vasudeva form is advocated. The letter v of vaha guru reminds of Vishnu. In Dvapara-yuga Hari Krishna appeared; the letter h of vaha guru reminds of Hari. In Treta-yuga Rama appeared; the letter r of vaha guru reminds of Rama. In Kali-yuga came Nanaka as a guru to make others chant Govinda. The letter g of vaha guru reminds of Govinda. Thus the four yugas have concluded this. The four letters combined together to form this mantra (vaha guru). By chanting this mantra the living entity goes back from where he has come.

    Holy name

    Non-different than the maha-mantra Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare/ Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare, the Grantha-sahib describes the glories of singing: “Hari Hari Hare …Hare Hrsikesa Hare…, Hare Govinda Hare Govind…, Hare Nar Narhare Nar Narhare…” as the highest devotion.

    The Grantha-sahib in Vara, raga kanra mahala 4 recites:

    Rama nama nidhana hai hari
    gurmata rakha ura dharada

    dasana dasa hoaya rahu hau-maya bikhi-a mara
    janama padarath jiti-a kadaya na avai hara

    dhana dhana vadbhagi nanka jina
    gurmata hari rasa sara

    govinda govinda govinda hari govinda guni nidhana

    govinda govinda gurmata dhiai-ai ta
    dargaha pai-ai mana

    govinda govinda govinda japa mucha ujla para dhana

    … Sabh kahhu mukhahu hari hari hare hari hari hare hari bolat sabh papa lahogia

    Translation: Through the the wisdom obtained from the guru, always treasure the name of Rama in your heart. Destroy the poison of false ego and be the servant of Lord Rama’s servant. Thus you will win the real wealth of human life and never face defeat. Nanaka says, “Those fortunate souls are glorious who by the mercy of the spiritual master taste the nectar of Hari and always remember Him.”

    By reciting “Govinda Govinda Govinda,” one gains purity and radiance. All join together to chant Hari’s (Krishna’s) name and Hare (His internal potency) as this would lead to the forgiveness of the past sins.

    Further it says:

    hari hari hari hari nama hai gurmukha pavai ko-ay

    hau-maya mamta nasa ho-aya
    durmata kadhaya dho-aya

    ..sabha kahhu mukhahu hrsikesa hare
    hrsikesa hare jita pavahi sabha fala falna

    Vaishnavism in Sikhism

    Translation: Only some are fortunate enough to be blessed by the spiritual master with the name of Hari, as this is the only name. By chanting Hari, the false ego, worldly ties, and bad qualities are cleansed. Let us all chant “Hrsikesa” (Krishna, the master of the senses) and “Hare” (His consort) so as to obtain all rewards.

    Qualities of a Vaishnava

    A Vaishnava has the topmost human consciousness as described in the scriptures. It has also been advocated in the Grantha-sahib. In the 9th verse (Astapati) of a hymn Sukhmani-sahib composed by Guru Arjunadeva, the word vaishnava has been well defined: “one who is bound to attain parama gati, the highest destination.”

    It recites:

    mithia nahi rasna parasa
    mana mahi priti niranjana darasa
    par stri rupa na pekhey netr
    sadha ki tahal satsang heyt

    Translation: Falsehood his tongue does not touch and for a glimpse of the Lord his heart longs. His eyes do not look at the beauty of other women, and he serves the saints and remains in their association

    karan na suneh kahu ki ninda
    sabh tay janay apas ko manda
    guru prasadi bhikhi-da parharay
    mann ki basna mann tey taray
    indrijita panch dokh tey rahata
    nanak kotimadhay ko aisa apras ||1||

    Translation: His ears do not hear anyone’s criticism, and he considers himself lower than everyone else. By the grace of the spiritual master he is able to give up bad habits, and lust leaves his mind as he conquers his senses. He conquers his senses and is free from the five faults (anger, lust, greed, envy, and illusion). Nanaka says, one among millions is such a detached soul.

    vaishnava so jisa
    upara suparsana

    bishana ki maya
    tay ho-ay bhinna

    karma karat hovai nihkarama

    tisu baisno ka nirmal dharam

    Translation: Vaishnava is one with whom the Lord is pleased. He is untouched by the worldliness created by the Lord. One who acts in inaction (without desire for fruit), only his (Vaishnava’s) religion is one with purity.

    kahu phal ki ichcha nahi bachai
    keval bhagati kirtana sangi racai
    mana tana antari simran gopal
    sabh upari hovat kirpala

    Translation: He works with no aspiration for fruits. He is only engrossed in devotion and kirtana of the Supreme. One who Within his heart and by the activities of his body is always remembering Gopala. He is compassionate to all.

    api dridai avroh namu japavai
    nanaka oh vaishnava parama gati pavai
    bhagauti bhagvant bhagati ka rangu
    sagal tia gay dusat ka sangu

    Translation: He is determined in devotional service and also makes others chant the holy names. Nanaka says, such a Vaishnava attains the liberation (parama gati). He is immersed in the color of bhakti, and stays away from the company of the wicked.

    mann tay binsai sagala bharamu
    kar pujai sagala parabhrahamu
    sadha sangi paya malu khovai
    tisu bhaguti ki mati uttama hovai

    Translation: All doubts in his mind are destroyed. He realises that the Lord is everywhere and worships Him. One who washes the dirt of contamination of this world in the association of saintly devotees, his wisdom is the best.

    bhagvant ki tahals krai nitaniti
    manu tanu arpai bisana priti
    hari ke carana hrdaya basavai
    nanaka aisa bhaguti bhagvanta kau pavai

    Vaishnavism in Sikhism

    Translation: That devotee who serves the Lord following proper rules and regulations, who surrenders all activities of the body and mind in service and love of the Lord, who enshrines the lotus feet of the Lord within the recesses of his heart, Nanaka says only such a devotee can obtain God.

    These revelations put at rest all the doubts instilling a novel, innovative approach. Vaisnavism is no wonder the language of Sikhism. Such literary endeavors build up bridges and break walls leading to communal harmony, peace, and universal brotherhood, with the core no doubt being Krishna consciousness.

    Radhika Krpa Devi Dasi is a disciple of His Holiness Gopala Krishna Goswami Maharaja. She is an author of a book of devotional poetry and Vaishnavism in Sikhism from which this article was compiled. She lives with her family in Delhi.

  • Sab ka malik ek. Common sense tells. All breathe oxygen only. All drink water when thirsty. All have same blood i.e. A, B,AB or O.  

  • E-Counselor

    Sikh gurus. 

    Give me your number, I will fwd the video.

  • Volunteer

    Hare krsna,

    The fact that you were born into a Sikh family is that, because of your previous birth's desires.. So there is nothing wrong in following Sikhism or chanting Vaheguru.. however, krsna has also seen a sincere desire in you of much better things for the future life or births (which probably you are not aware yet), that He has given you the knowledge and insight into the Maha Mantra now, which you have respectfully accepted and following already.

    So, I would say, take  advantage of both the paths. You can incline yourself to the path that gives you more direct connection with the Supreme Lord.

    All glories to Srila Prabhupad!!!

    Hare krsna.

  • Hare Krishna friend,

    I am a punjabi and have great regard for all the Sikh Gurus. I  have been studying Guru Granth Sahib along with Bhagavad Gita from a long time. In my understanding, Sikhism is nothing but covered Vaishnavism. 

    It talks about Krishna/Govind/Madhav/Rama in whole bani. All the Sikh gurus have always respected Sri Krishna but due to politics interference in the religion now it is being shown that they they spoke something different. If you want to understand Gurubani properly then one need to become a Vaishnava to really see how Gurus actually tried to make people understand that Krishna is supreme Lord. There is no difference between Waheguru and Krishna. You can say two different names of the same Almighty Lord. 

    Let's talk about the facts, Bhai Gurudas who was scribe of Guru Granth Sahib and relative of Guru Arjun Dev ji wrote Varaan which are considered to be key of the Gurubani. 

    Please see the attached image. If you can read Punjabi then you will yourself appreciate the meaning of Waheguru. 

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  • Krishnas is exclusively many things.. Beyound casts & custom MahaDavidassi
    Slu
    Krishna's integrates are wholey unequally exquisite
    By Guru do you mean Ram?
    Vishnu (HDG) (RDD)g? This expectation to find equels amung us? I feel Krishna is not apposed to us regulation oir own evolutions or revelations
    However, the Godhead's demand (Tapas) in their teaching environment the (Ashram's).
    So ahstaratyis are the opulence of the yrue Ashram's as the climent their is' actually of a worshipable qulity & natuer. Krishna's Ashram's are (indeed) the holeist of places. Incomparable* on this or any Earth/world! HariBolah all glory to the divine (AG) the Vishnu Sumpadia's (AG) 2 (HDG)
    & HI'S assembled
    Bhaktees Haray Bolah
    Incomparable
  • Hare Krsna Prabhu
    I'm a sikh and I chant the mahamantra as well as the Gur-mantra 'Waheguru'.
    There is no problem because the Shabad Waheguru is mentioned in the Guru Granth Sahib only with respect to the son of mother Yasoda which is none other than Krsna.
    In fact the Shabad 'Ram' is also mentioned more than 2,500 times and He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead but there it is specifically mentioned that the son of mother Yasoda is Waheguru and not even the son of mother Kausalya.
    This leaves no doubt and you can download the app of Guru Granth Sahib and check the Ang(page no.) 1402.
    On a different note:
    Sikhs are basically martial and Vaisnava are automatically Brahmin. But what wonders cooperation between the Brahmins(intelligent class) and ksatriyas(martial class) can do is well explained in the third canto of SB.
    It is a conversation between Svayambhuva Manu and Kardama Muni.
    For the time being you must read the books of Srila Prabhupada if you want to chant either the mahamantra or the gurmantra 'Waheguru'.
    Guru Nanak Dev ji explains in Sri Gur Pratap Suraj Granth by Chudamani Kavi Bhai Santokh Singh that Waheguru is composed of four letters which are derived as follows :
    'Wa' is derived from Vasudeva.
    'He' is derived from Hari.
    'Gu' is derived from Govind.
    'Ru' is derived from Ram.
    There is more and if you want to inquire about it then you are most welcome.
    • The truth is that the Prasada of the Sikhs contains onions? You can repeat two mantras, but what about food restrictions?

  • E-Counselor

    Hare Krsna Prabhuji,

    PAMHO.

    DO you know that Sikhism is an offshoot of HInduism only. The teachings are the same. In fact, I have a video someone sent on whatsapp where the gurus are saying that Sikh granths are also saying Krsna is supreme. Give me your phone number on my personal window, I will share with you.

    Suppose it didnt say also, chanting the mahamantra is beyond all religions - it has to do with the soul. Our body is sikh or muslim or christian, this birth one faith, next birth another. Soul is unchanging, and its soul's business to go back to Godhead, which the mahamantra facilitates. 

    Haribol,

    YOur servant,

    Radha Rasamayi DD

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