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All glories to srila Prabhupada
This one may be a bit stupid question so please don't mind.
I have read and heard completing this life a pure devotee goes back to krsna to associate in nitya lilas. And also I read that since krsna is always doing lilas in this world (sometimes which are prakat to us and other aprakat) , the devotee after liberation goes to that place in that universe where krsna is doing his lilas. And gets the chance to first time associate with him.
Since, krsna is always doing lilas and devotees are always accompanying him, so when do they go back to Godhead actually. Of course there is no difference between KRSNA, his form, name and even his abode , so the same Vrindavan is here but do they go back to home only after death of Brahma when creation is no more (of this material World)
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Here some refferneces:
On Swami B.V. Tripurari’s site, a Q&A explicitly says Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura (in Caitanya-śikṣāmṛta) stated that Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇavas “tend to have two forms”—a brāhmaṇa boy in Gaura-līlā and a gopī in Kṛṣṇa-līlā. here
In the PureBhakti PDF book “Svarūpa of the Jīva”, there is a direct Q&A:
Question: whether the soul “separate[s] to be in two forms in two pastimes”
Answer: it explains this as acintya (inconceivable) and gives the example: “Mother Yaśodā has unlimited forms. Wherever Kṛṣṇa is, she is.” here
Well that is an interesting thing to know, thank you sharing it.
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oh interesting but I read somewhere or heard somewhere not sure that some devotees get two bodies one in mayapura in gaurnaga lila and one in vrindavana in krishna lila.. so im sure its possible that even a jiva-tattva can reside both in goloku and material worlds vrindavana.
Hare Krishna,
Nidhivan which you see with your naked eyes during the day time is full trees and these trees are turning at night time as gopis and Krishna daily comes there and performs rasa dance with all the gopis' and Shree Radha. The Rang Mahal when opened daily shows some chewed pan, broken bangles and broken Laddu peices. The cloth on the bed is all crumpled in the morning when the Preist unlocks the gates.
Those people who tried to stay at night and tried to watch this became mad and dead in few days. People have heard at nights ghungroo ki jhankar ( sounds of the anklets). At day time to temple is open for visitor but after 9pm it is totally shut off locked from outside and no one is allowed to go in there.
I believe that Krishna comes daily even today. YES Aprakat leela is taking place in Nidhivan.
Parkat leela happens in eternal Goloka
Aprakat leela happens in Vrindavan daily which is spiritual manifestation of goloka.
As Lord Sri Krisna Keeps the promise given to Gopis' of Vrindavan that he wont leave them. He keeps visiting them daily even today in Aprakat ( Unmanifested form) and does rasaleela there in nidhivan.
Souls who got liberation ( mukti) attain the abode of Vaikunth the abode of Lord Vishnu and do service to the Supreme Personality of Godhead obtaining their 4 handed form.. Those who got prema bhakti will transcend to still higher realms the Goloka.
After the death of Brahama there is complete dissoultion and all the souls who have not attained any MUKTI OR PREMA BHAKTI are staying in the TUMMY of Vishnu until the next new Day of Brahma ji begins so that they continue again and keep revolving in the cycles of births and death.
Hare Krishna
Hare Krishna mataji
So they get the association in both lilas (in material World and spiritual world) at the same time of differently?
Yes, Because they are nitya siddhas. Then come to earth along with Lord to paricipate in the leelas of Lord and go back with Lord when the leela is done on the Earth. When Lord Sri Krishna wanted to do Leela on the Earth He was requested by Govardhan giri and Yamuna river to take them along with Him as well.
Vrindavan ( Nidhivan) esp. is not material at night times. Something is mysterious about that place. It is a part of Goloka or something. Morning times it appears all normal.
I even heard that Radha Kund and Krishna Kund are visited by demigods to take bath at night times.
Look at the kunda in the morning it looks like so normal so many people bathing in it.
Well I have heard that this Vrindavan is actually the same as in vaikunth, since krsna and his place are both sac-cid-anand.
it is not Vaikunth. Vaikunth is different. Which is the abode of Laxmi Narayan.
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do they go back to home only after death of Brahma when creation is no more
No, example : Dhruva Maharaj
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