Animal Sacrifices allowed or not ?

In both Mahabharatha and Bhagavatham , and in some other sastras like Manudharma, there are discussions on animal Sacrifice and meat eating

All these scriptures agree on one point viz., " Killing animals  is not a sin in sacrifice. Otherwise a great sin."

 But still, we can find some statements against even animal Sacrifices which is not considered as sin.

 The question that arises here is that if animal Sacrifices are sanctioned by scriptures, then why there are conflicting statements which oppose animal Sacrifices ?

 

statements which sanction animal Sacrifices 

 https://sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07064.htm

 Of rigid vows and always engaged in due performance of sacrifices, countless animals, desirous of going to heaven, used to come to him of their own accord. 2 So large was the number of animals sacrificed in the Agnihotra of that king that the secretions flowing from his kitchen from the heaps of skins deposited there caused a veritable river which from this circumstance, came to be called the Charmanwati.

https://sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07064.htm

The sacred fire is fond of animal food,' this saying has come down to us. And at sacrifices animals are invariably killed by regenerate Brahmanas, and these animals being purged of sin, by incantation of hymns, go to heaven. If, O Brahmana, the sacred fire had not been so fond of animal food in ancient times, it could never have become the food of any one

ŚB 6.4.9,  ŚB 10.69.35,  ŚB 10.58.15-16

 

 https://sacred-texts.com/hin/m01/m01229.htm

    "Then those foremost of car-warriors (Krishna and Arjuna), riding in their cars and placing themselves on opposite sides of that forest, began a great slaughter, on all sides, of the creatures dwelling in Khandava"

    "The birds that took wings to escape from that conflagration were pierced by Arjuna with his shafts, and cut into pieces, they fell down into the burning element below. Pierced all over with Arjuna's shafts, the birds dropped down into the burning forest, uttering loud cries."

 https://www.wisdomlib.org/hinduism/book/the-mahabharata-mohan/d/doc826441.html

The audition is heard that animals were created for sacrifice. They who eat flesh in any other way are said to follow the Rakshasa practice.

 Bhishma said, Listen to me as I tell you what the ordinance is that has been laid down for the Kshatriyas. They do not incur any fault by eating flesh that has been acquired by expenditure of prowess. All deer of the wilderness were dedicated to the deities and the Pitris in days of old, O king, by Agastya. Hence, the hunting of deer is not censured.

 

statements which oppose animal Sacrifices

 https://sacred-texts.com/hin/m12/m12b092.htm

 Wine, fish, honey, meat, alcohol, and preparations of rice and sesame seeds, have been introduced by knaves. The use of these (in sacrifices) is not laid down in the Vedas. The hankering after these arises from pride, error of judgment, and cupidity. They that are true Brahmanas realise the presence of Vishnu in every sacrifice. His worship, it has been laid down, should be made with agreeable Payasa.

https://sacred-texts.com/hin/m12/m12c037.htm

The Rishis said, The opinion entertained by us, O king, is that sacrifices should be performed with grain. The deities, however, maintain that sacrifices should be performed with animals. Do thou judge between us and tell us which of these opinions is correct.'

"Bhishma continued, 'Learning what the opinion was that was entertained by the deities, Vasu, moved by partiality for them, said that sacrifices should be performed with animals. At this answer, all the Rishis, endued with the splendour of the Sun, became very angry. Addressing Vasu who was seated on his car and who had (wrongly) taken up the side of the deities, they said unto him,--Since thou hast (wrongly) taken up the side of the deities, do thou fall down from heaven.

And those hardcore hindutwa vadis who argue that vedas or scriptures didn't sanction  meateating . They argue that verses were mistranslated.

They also say that some britishers polluted and twisted the scriptures with interpolations and mistranslations.

 

Note : Only persons with good knowledge of scriptures are welcome. Quoating with references is appreciated.

 This question is not for brainwashers who do not show any references.

 

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  • Hare Krishna Ranga Krishna

    There have been many great men, prophets, messiahs. Muhammad is one such Prophet. He may be great but he is not absolutely great. 

    You are saying Srila Prabhupada made a mistake of praising Muhammad. Srila Prabhupada is not only perfect, he is absolutely great in my opinion and other devotees also. If I were to choose between Krishna and Prabhupada,  I choose Prabhupada.  Therefore,  whatever you said against Prabhupada will react upon you and it's only Srila Prabhupada who can forgive you. You may consider these words Prophetic.

    Hari Bol 

    • I say it is a sin to approve a scoundrel who is the originator of a cult which says to kill diety worshippers, murder unarmed men , murder cows, and  rape women.

         You people are approving Krishna's haters who demolished Krishna's temples. Do you have anysense ?

        Why do you think then,  that sin will react upon me who disapproved such evil rather than reacting upon you who  who committed such sin ?

        You are speaking like this even after muslims attacked your iskcon people in bangladesh.  If tomorrow muslims demolish your temple and break Krishna's idol into pieces, it seems that you will dance in joy shouting " Blessed be the Prophet ,he didn't hate any one ".

       

      • Hare Krishna 

        Srila Prabhupada said he would go on living in his books. Let's consider that relevant.

        You won't find a single quote of Srila Prabhupada approving or praising Muhammad in his books.

        I challenge you to quote from his books.

        If what you say is true then quote from the books so that Prabhupada can also know!

        Let's see how truthful you are , you are calling others dishonest.

        Srila Prabhupada dedicated his life in the service of Srimad-Bhagavatam. Quote from Bhagavatam,  quote from Bhagavad-gita as it is or from Sri Caitanya-caritamrta.  

        I'll tell you what,  you can't!

        Hari Bol 

            • Hare Krishna 

              See you proved yourself a liar. You can't give any proof of Prabhupada praising Muhammad in his books. 

              I don't know how IDT is allowing an offender of Prabhupada here. You said Prabhupada made a mistake in praising Muhammad and yet you cannot give proof of it from his authentic books. 

              • You can't give any proof of Prabhupada praising Muhammad.

                So, what if he praised ? Why do you ask ? You should be happy, bcz Muhammad is your idol.

                You asked same question initially.

                Then I gave you the link

                https://www.harekrsna.de/artikel/islam.htm

                Then you started praising Muhammad. That means you believed that Prabhupada praised Muhammad.

                Now, why do you want the proof again ? Who is the liar ? you or me ?

                How does the proof matter to you ? You are already a fan of muhammad

                What will you do if I provide you another proof ? What is the use ?

                you will again shout " Blessed be the Prophet ,he didn't hate any one ".

                There is abundance of proof both in quran and authentic history about the evil acts of muhammad.

                Still you say " Blessed be the Prophet ,he didn't hate any one ".

                See how insensible you are. Is it possible to convince persons like you ?

                 

                 

                A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada on ISLAM
              • Many muslims realizing how dangerous is quran to this world, quitting it.

                 Being Krishna's devotee you say   " Blessed be the Prophet ,he didn't hate any one ".

                 

              • Why did you delete your comment. First tell me that ?

                I said Prabhubada made a mistake. For thay you are calling me offender.

                You said" what is your value ? " who is the real offender ?

                See, As long as I get emails , I will reply. understand..

                • Perhaps i need a braveheart. You said I may not be brave. But, you are also a lunatic who thinks of correcting Prabhupada in the past. That's why i deleted my reply.

                  You won't get any emails about my replies after this. I assure you! 

                  • Idiot, I am more brave than you who is shouting  " Blessed be the Prophet ,he didn't hate any one ".

                    If you think you are brave, go to your ISKCON Bangladesh and shout Harekrishna until they kick you out.

                     

                    • No you are saying cursed be the Prophet. 

                      As for shouting Hare Krishna,  people can find that disturbing anywhere. Shouting is afterall noise. 

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