i 100% trust on bhagwat puran,vishnu puran and brahma vaivart puran. but my friend on fb told me that he doesn't 100% trust on all puranas because he said in some puranas there is written that shiva is supreme and from him lord vishnu appeared and some puranas said lord vishnu is supreme and from him lord vishnu appeared. and other said goddess durga is supreme and from her brahna vishnu and mahesh are appeared. i am confused that what i tell to my friend .sorry for bad english.
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It is understandable to feel confused when different Puranas seem to present different ideas about the Supreme Lord and His various incarnations and expansions. However, it is important to remember that all the Puranas ultimately have the same goal, which is to glorify and reveal the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
In the Bhagavad-gita, Lord Krishna says that He is the ultimate goal of all the Vedas and Puranas (BG 15.15). Therefore, we should approach the Puranas with a mood of reverence and humility, and try to understand their teachings in the light of the Bhagavad-gita and other authoritative Vedic scriptures.
Regarding the apparent contradictions in the Puranas about the supremacy of different deities, it is important to understand that the Supreme Lord is one, but He manifests in different forms and expansions to perform different pastimes and fulfill different purposes. Therefore, it is not that one deity is superior or inferior to another, but rather that they all represent different aspects of the same Supreme Personality of Godhead.
As devotees of Krishna, we accept that Lord Vishnu is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and that all other deities are His expansions or incarnations. However, we also respect the beliefs and worship of devotees of other deities, as long as they are based on the principles of Vedic knowledge and do not contradict the teachings of the Bhagavad-gita.
Therefore, you can tell your friend that while it is natural to have different opinions and interpretations of the Puranas, the ultimate goal of all the Puranas is to help us understand and develop our relationship with the Supreme Lord. As long as we approach them with an open and humble heart, and follow the teachings of the Bhagavad-gita, we can attain the highest perfection of life.
ब्राह्मं दश सहस्राणि पाद्मं पञ्चोनषष्टि च । श्री वैष्णवं त्रयोविंशच्चतुर्विंशति शैवकम् ।। दशाष्टौ श्रीभागवतं नारदं पञ्चविंशति । मार्कण्डं नव वाह्वं च दशपञ्च चतुःशतम् ।। चतुर्दश भविष्यं स्यात्तथा पञ्चशतानि च । दशाष्टौ ब्रह्मवैवर्त लैंङ्गमेकादशैव तु ।। चतुर्विंशतिवाराहमेकाशीतिसहस्रकम् । स्कन्दं शतं तथा चैकं वामनं दश कीर्तितम् ।। कौ सप्तदशाख्यातं मात्स्यं तत्तु चतुर्दश । एकोनविंशत्सौपर्ण ब्रह्माण्डं द्वादशैव तु ।। एवं पुराणसन्दोहश्चतुर्लक्ष उदाहृतः । तत्राष्टदशसाहस्रं श्रीभागवतं इष्यते । । ( Srimad Bhagvatam 12:13:4-9 ) Translation : The Brahma Purana has 10,000, the Padma Purana has 55,000, the Vishnu Purana has 23,000, and the Shiva Purana has 24,000 verses. The Shrimad Bhagavata Purana has 18,000, the Narada Purana has 25,000, the Markandeya Purana has 9,000, and the Agni Purana has 15,400 verses. The Bhavishya Purana has 14,500, the Brahma Vaivarta Purana has 18,000, and the Linga Purana has 11,000 verses. The Varaha Purana has 24,000, the Skanda Purana has 81,100, and the Vamana Purana has 10,000 verses. The Kurma Purana has 17,000, the Matsya Purana has 14,000, the Garuda Purana has 19,000, and the Brahmanda Purana has 12,000 verses. Thus, the total number of verses in all the Puranas is four lakh . Of these, 18,000 verses are from the Shrimad Bhagavata Purana.
𝗔𝘂𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗰𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗼𝗳 𝗣𝘂𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗮𝘀
Puranas are fifth Vedas -
एवं वा अरेऽस्य महतो भूतस्य निःश्वसितमेतद् यदृग्वेदो यजुर्वेदः सामवेदोऽथर्व्वांगिरस इतिहासः पुराणम्” (Brihadaranyaka Upanishad 2:4:10) Translation : Sage Yajnavalkya said to Maitreyi, "All the Rigveda, Yajurveda, Samaveda, Atharvaveda, Itihasa, and Puranas are manifested through the breath of the Supreme Being." This means that just as the four Vedas are apaurushya, i.e., not of human origin, the Itihasa and Puranas are also apaurushya and are of the same form as the Vedas. They are not separate from the Vedas.
"ऋग्वेदं भगवोऽध्येमि यजुर्वेदं सामवेदमाथर्वणं चतुर्थमितिहासं पुराणं पञ्चमं वेदानां वेदम्” (Chandogya Upanishad 7:1:12 ) Translation : "Oh Lord! I contemplate on the Rigveda, Yajurveda, Samaveda, Atharvaveda, and the fifth Veda which is the consideration of history and Puranas.
ऋग्यजुः सामाथर्वाख्या वेदाष्चत्वार उद्धृताः । इतिहास पुराणञ्च पञ्चमो वेद उच्यते ।। (Srimad Bhagavatam 1:4:20) Translation : "The Rigveda, Yajurveda, Samaveda, and Atharvaveda are the four Vedas, and the fifth Veda is called Itihasa-Purana."
इतिहासपुराणाभ्यां वेदं समुबृंहयेत् (Mahabharata Adiparva 1:267) Translation : "One should supplement the Vedas with the Itihasas and Puranas."
एवमिमे सर्वे वेदा निर्मितास्सकल्पा सरहस्या: सब्राह्मणा सोपनिषत्का: सेतिहासा: सांव्यख्याता:सपुराणा:सस्वरा:ससंस्काराः सनिरुक्ता: सानुशासना सानुमार्जना: सवाकोवाक्या (Gopatha Brahmana, Poorvabhag: Prapathaka 2) Translation: Similarly, all the Vedas, Kalpas, Brahmanas, Upanishads, Itihasas, Puranas, Vedic chants, accents, and rituals, including Anuvakas, Anushasanas, and Aranyakas, are all created by the Supreme Being
ऋचः सामानि छन्दांसि पुराणं यजुषा सह | उच्छिष्टाज् जज्ञिरे सर्वे दिवि देवा दिविश्रितः | (Atharvaveda 11:1:24) Translation : All the Devtas residing in heaven were created along with the Rig, Sama and Yajur Vedas along with Puranas .
मध्याहुतयो ह वा एतादेवानांयदनुशासनानी विद्या वाकोवाक्यमितिहासः पुराणं गाथा नराशंस्य: य एवम् विद्वाननुशासनानि विद्या वकोवाक्यमितिहास पुराणं गाथा नाराशंसिरित्यहरह: स्वाध्यायमधीते (Śatapatha Brahmana 11:3:8:8) Translation : Shastras are offerings among the God, which include the knowledge of God, Brahma-vidya, and other Vidya, as well as texts in the form of question and answer, history, Puranas, poetry(Gitas) , and Narashamsi. These Shastras are to be studied regularly as a sacrifice to the God.
अथ नवमेऽहन्तानुपदिशति पुराणं वेदः । सोऽयमिति किञ्चित् पुराणामचक्षीत्। (Shatapatha Brahmana 13:4:3:13) Translation : "Then on the ninth day, the Purana was taught, the Vedas said, 'This is it,' and thus spoke of some Puranas."
𝗣𝘂𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗮𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗩𝗲𝗱𝗮𝘀 𝗲𝘀𝘀𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗲 -
वेदवन्निश्चलं मन्ये पुराणं वै द्विजोत्तमाः । वेदाः प्रतिष्ठिताः सर्वे पुराणे नात्र संशयः ॥ ९० ॥ (Skanda Purana: Prabhaskhanda 1:2:90) O excellent Dvija , the Purāṇa is steady like the Vedas. All the Vedas are established in the Purāṇas. There is no doubt about it.
सर्ववेदार्थसाराणि पुराणानीति भूपते । (Narada Purana 1:6:100) Translation : "O King, the essence of all Vedic knowledge is present in the Puranas."
𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝘁𝗼𝗽𝗶𝗰 𝗲𝘅𝗽𝗹𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗲𝗱 𝗶𝗻 𝗣𝘂𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗮𝘀
While reading Puranas I have noticed a same verse repeated many times for defining Puranas content -
Translation: These five topics are covered in the Puranas - 1. Manvantara Vijñana (Knowledge of Manus or the cyclic periods of time) 2. Sarga Vijñana (Knowledge of Creation) 3. Pratisarga Vijñana (Knowledge of Recreation) 4. Vamsha Vijñana (Knowledge of Genealogy) 5. Vashanucharita Vijñana (Knowledge of Dynasties and their conduct)
𝗖𝗹𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗳𝗶𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗼𝗳 𝗣𝘂𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗮
वैष्णवं नारदीयं च तथा भागवतं शुभम् । गारुडं च तथा पाद्मं वाराहं शुभदर्शने । सात्विकानि पुराणानि विज्ञेयानि शुभानि वै ।। ब्रह्माण्डं ब्रह्मवैवर्तं मार्कण्डेयं तथैव च । भविष्यं वामनं ब्राह्मं राजसानि निबोधत ।। मात्सयं कौर्मं तथा लैङ्गम् शैवं स्कान्दं तथैव च । आग्नेयं च षडेतानि तामसानि निबोधत ।।
वाराहं वैष्णवं पाद्मं वायुप्रोक्तं च गारुडम्। श्रीमद्भागवतं चैव सात्विकानीति हि श्रुतिः॥ ब्रह्माण्डं ब्रह्मवैवर्तं मार्कण्डेयं च वामनम्। भविष्यं नारसिंहं च राजसानि षडैव हि॥ मात्स्यं कौर्म्यं तथा लैङ्ग्यं शैवं स्कान्दं तथैव च। पाशुपतसंज्ञिकं चेति तामसानि विदो विदुः॥ (Prakasa Samhita 1:4:32-34) Translation : Varaha ,Vishnu,Padma, Vayu, Garuda and the Srimad bhagavata purana are sattvik puranas.Brahmanda, Brahmavaivarta, Markendeya,Vamana,Bhavishya and Narsimha purana are always rajasic.Matysa, Kurma,Linga,Siva,Skanda and the Pasupata Sastra are the tamasic in nature.
अन्यानि विष्णोः प्रतिपादकानिसर्वाणि ते सात्त्विकानीति चाहुः। (Garuḍa Purāṇa 3:1:42) Translation : The Purāṇas devoted to Lord Sri Hari are Satvika .
विष्णोः पुराणं भागवतं पुराणं सत्त्वोत्तमं गरुडं चाहुर् आर्यः। (Garuda Purana 3:1:52) Translation : “The Arya Purāṇas Vishnu Purana, Bhagavata Purana and Garuda Purana the best of the Satvika Puranas .
𝗦𝘂𝗽𝗿𝗲𝗺𝗲 𝗣𝘂𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗮 𝗮𝗺𝗼𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝗣𝘂𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗮𝘀
पुराणेषु तु सर्वेषु श्रीमद् भागवतं परम् यत्र प्रति-पदम् कृष्णो गीयते बहुधा ऋषिभिः। (Padma Purana: Uttara-khanda 193:3) Translation : Of all the puranas, the Srimad Bhagavatam is the greatest. In every line the Sages glorify Sri Krsna in various ways.
सर्ववेदान्तसारं हि श्रीभागवतमिष्यते । तद्रसामृततृप्तस्य नान्यत्र स्याद्रति: क्वचित् ॥ १५ ॥ (Śrimad Bhāgavatam 12 : 13 : 15) Translation : Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam is declared to be the essence of all Vedānta philosophy. One who has felt satisfaction from its nectarean mellow will never be attracted to any other literature.
सूत उवाच - श्रीमद् भागवतस्याथ श्रीमद्भगवतः सदा । स्वरूपमेकमेवास्ति सच्चिदानन्दलक्षणम् ॥ (Skanda Purana : Vaishnava khanda 6:4:3) Translation : Sutji says, "O sages! The form of Shrimad Bhagavatam and Shri Bhagavan are always the same, and that is the embodiment of truth, consciousness, and bliss.
𝗪𝗵𝘆 𝗗𝗶𝗳𝗳𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗽𝘂𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗮𝘀 𝘄𝗿𝗶𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗻 𝗯𝘆 𝗩𝘆𝗮𝘀𝗵𝗮𝗱𝗲𝘃𝗮 ?
We have to understand that there is not only one Vyashdeva but actually there are traditionally total 28 Vyasas, who are believed to be the compilers of the Vedas and the Puranas. The term "Vyasa" means "compiler" or "editor." However, the most well-known Last Vyasa is Krishna Dvaipayana Vyasa, who is considered to be the author of the Mahabharata, as well as the compiler and editor of the Vedas and the Puranas. In every Kalpa Vishnu take Incranation as a Vyasha to explain the Dharma through scriptures.So all "Vysha" is a title given to that scriptures compiler.
संक्षिप्य चतुरो वेदांश्चतुर्द्धा व्यभजत् प्रभुः । व्यस्तवेदतया ख्यातो वेदव्यास इतिस्मृतः ।।पुराणमपि संक्षिप्तं चतुर्लक्षप्रमाणतः । अद्याप्यमर्त्यलोके तु शतकोटिप्रविस्तरम् ।। (Vayaviya Samhita 1:33-34) Translation : "The Lord Incranation Krishna Dvaipayan divided the four Vedas into four parts and thus classified them. He became famous as Vedavyasa due to this division of the Vedas. Even the Puranas were summarized into four hundred thousand verses. Today, there are still hundreds of millions of verses in the mortal world.Shri Vedavyasa condensed and abbreviated the vast Puranas into four hundred thousand verses. Even today, there are one hundred crore (one billion) verses in the realm of Brahmaloka (the divine realm)."
पुराणेषु च वैषम्यं युगकल्पव्यवस्थया । न चाप्रामाण्यशंका ते कथाया व्यत्यये क्वचित् ॥ ७० ॥ (SkandaPurana:Vaishnava khanda 7:13:70) Translation : "There is diversity in the Puranas due to differences in the arrangement of Yugas and Kalpas, but there is no doubt about their authenticity. The differences are only minor."
◉So the Vyashdeva wrote according to Kalpa in which he take Incranation -
सात्त्विकेष्वथ कल्पेषु माहात्म्यमधिकं हरेः। तामसेषु हरस्योक्तं राजसेषु प्रजापतेः॥ (Kūrma Purāṇa 2:45:41) Translation : The sāttvika kalpas predominantly glorify Lord Hari. The glories of Śiva is prominent in the tāmasika ones; and those in the mode of passion prominently glorify Brahmā.
रजो ब्रह्मा तमो रुद्रो विष्णुः सत्त्वं जगत्पतिः । एत एव त्रयो देवा एत एव त्रयो गुणाः॥४६.१८॥ (Markendeya Purana 46:18) Translation : "Brahma represents the quality of passion (rajo guna), Rudra represents the quality of ignorance (tamo guna), the Lord of the universe (jagatpatihi) Vishnu represents the quality of goodness (sattva guna). These three deities are nothing but the three qualities (guna) themselves."
◉That's why Sattvika scriptures are based on Truth and must be readable by all -
सात्त्विकेषु पुराणेषु माहात्म्यमधिकं हरेः । राजसेषु च माहात्म्यमधिकं ब्रह्मणो विदुः ॥ ६७ तद्वदग्नेश्च माहात्म्यं तामसेषु शिवस्य च । संकीर्णेषु सरस्वत्याः पितॄणां च निगद्यते ॥ ६८ (Matsya Purana 53 : 67-68) Translation : The glory of Hari is greater in sattvika scripture; the glory of Brahma is greater in rajasika scriptures; and that of Agni and Siva greater in tamasika scriptures. In mixed scriptures the glory of Sarasvati and the pitrs is said to be greater."
◉ Therefore only Satvika Puranas gave the path of liberation and truth -
सात्विका मोक्षदाः प्रोक्ताः राजसा सर्वदा अशुभाः । तथैव तामसा देवि निरयप्राप्तिहेतवः ।। (Padma Purana : Uttarakhanda 236:21) Translation : Among these puranas Satvika Puranas lead one to liberation, Rajasa do not cause good and tamasa puranas lead one to hell.
Hare Krsna, My obeisances to all devotees, guru and gauranga.
The way I see it prabhu: Mahabharatha was narrated by sage Vyasa and Lord Ganesha transcribed it. And we all know that Bhagavad Gita falls within the Mahabharatha text.
Now, when sage Vyasa who is the literary incarnation of Vishnu and Lord Ganesha who is given the status of Pratham pujya did not have any issues or doubts or conflicts to narrate or write respectively that Lord Krsna is the Supreme Personality, then who are we (insignificant human beings) to compare between demigods and Krsna. If any other God was supreme, then I dont see why sage Vyasa wouldn't have narrated the other God's name.
Prabhu the arguments between who is supreme has, is and will exist for a long time. Let us not waste time trying to understand something that's incomprehensible to us. I am not disrespecting Lord Shiva or his devotees/followers but I am sure even Lord Shiva if prayed will eventually raise the soul towards Krsna. That is how Lord Shiva does his service to Krsna.
That is my limited knowledge on the topic prabhu. Please excuse me if I hurt anyone with my response.
According to all scriptures, puranas, upaniahads, vedas, acaryas - Krishna is the Supreme Personality of godhead.
That video is flawed, the book he shows is flawed, the manner he picks selective lines is flawed and most importantly the conclusion is flawed.
Bhagavad Gita As it is & Srimad Bhagavatam written by Srila prabhupada gives the exact sanskrit verse, word to word translation, meaning verse by verse and purport.
i got the answer for shaivas shiva is supreme and for vaishnavas krishna is supreme and by shankaracharya one who compares ram(vishnu) and shiva is a fool person..........also its better for me to follow the puran,ved,upanishad which can boost the krishna bhakti path ! Forgive me for my offences if any !
actually every person doesnt gets a guru and in this ghor kalikal its very hard to get a real guru many dhongi's are there but many real are also there. also guru can be sun,moon,earth,bee, and many more who teaches something which can help one to boost the bhakti path.
Hare Krishna
So that is what your friend also might have done. Never read any puranas but assumed many things about it. I hope your confusions are cleared.
Hare Krishna
I've read full bhagwat ,vishnu and kalki puran and some parts of brahma vaivart puran. And he read vishnu purana and some parts of other puranas that are saying 'from shiva vishnu appeared' etc. Radhe radhe!!
Krishna is the Supreme Lord he can appear from anywhere and every where. Lord Varaha dev appeared from the nosetel of Lord Brhma, Narshimadev appeared from the Pillar...So does not matter the Supreme Lord he can appear from anywhere..Krishna is supreme lord because he possess the Six opulence in full.. As your friend said each purana glorifies each devas..thats why Sri Narada Muni chatised Vyasadev in 1st canto of Srimad Bhagavatam..why did u write all this puranas and confuse the people? He ask to write clearly and he ask to glorify the supreme lord directly... Manu says in Manusamhita if there is any conflicts between two purana then u need to take which ever the purana is in the mood of goodness. i.e Siva Purana is in the mood of Tamo Guna but Srimad Bhagavatam is in the Mood of Goodness so u need to take it whatever Srimad Bhagavatam says..u can see in srimad Bhagavatam lord siva clearly glorifies Lord Krishna..Visnusahasra Nama lord Siva asking parvathi to chant the name of Lord Rama...So no need to get confuse Krishna is the supreme he is origin of everything ..Hare Krishna
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Hare Krishna!
It is understandable to feel confused when different Puranas seem to present different ideas about the Supreme Lord and His various incarnations and expansions. However, it is important to remember that all the Puranas ultimately have the same goal, which is to glorify and reveal the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
In the Bhagavad-gita, Lord Krishna says that He is the ultimate goal of all the Vedas and Puranas (BG 15.15). Therefore, we should approach the Puranas with a mood of reverence and humility, and try to understand their teachings in the light of the Bhagavad-gita and other authoritative Vedic scriptures.
Regarding the apparent contradictions in the Puranas about the supremacy of different deities, it is important to understand that the Supreme Lord is one, but He manifests in different forms and expansions to perform different pastimes and fulfill different purposes. Therefore, it is not that one deity is superior or inferior to another, but rather that they all represent different aspects of the same Supreme Personality of Godhead.
As devotees of Krishna, we accept that Lord Vishnu is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and that all other deities are His expansions or incarnations. However, we also respect the beliefs and worship of devotees of other deities, as long as they are based on the principles of Vedic knowledge and do not contradict the teachings of the Bhagavad-gita.
Therefore, you can tell your friend that while it is natural to have different opinions and interpretations of the Puranas, the ultimate goal of all the Puranas is to help us understand and develop our relationship with the Supreme Lord. As long as we approach them with an open and humble heart, and follow the teachings of the Bhagavad-gita, we can attain the highest perfection of life.
Namo Nārāyaṇaḥ 🙏🧡
𝗡𝘂𝗺𝗯𝗲𝗿 𝗼𝗳 𝗠𝗮𝗵𝗮-𝗣𝘂𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗮𝘀 -
The same Verse for naming all Puranas is repeated in various scriptures -
ब्राह्मं पाद्मं वैष्णवं च शैवं लैंङ्ग सगारुडं । नारदीयं भागवतमाग्नेयं स्कान्दसंज्ञितम् ।। भविष्यं ब्रह्मवैवर्तं मार्कण्डेयं सवामनम् । वाराहं मात्स्यं कौर्मं च ब्रह्माण्डाख्यमितित्रिषट् ।।
(Srimad Bhagvatam 12:7:23-24 )
(Garga Samhita -Viswajeetkhanda 16:20-21)
(Padma Purana: Uttarakhanda 236:14-17)
Translation - "The eighteen Puranas are the Brahma Purana, Padma Purana, Vishnu Purana, Shiva Purana, Linga Purana, Garuda Purana, Narada Purana, Bhagavata Purana, Agni Purana, Skanda Purana, Bhavishya Purana, Brahma Vaivarta Purana, Markandeya Purana, Vamana Purana, Varaha Purana, Matsya Purana, Kurma Purana, and Brahmanda Purana."
𝗧𝗼𝘁𝗮𝗹 𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗲𝘀 𝗶𝗻 𝗣𝘂𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗮𝘀
ब्राह्मं दश सहस्राणि पाद्मं पञ्चोनषष्टि च । श्री वैष्णवं त्रयोविंशच्चतुर्विंशति शैवकम् ।। दशाष्टौ श्रीभागवतं नारदं पञ्चविंशति । मार्कण्डं नव वाह्वं च दशपञ्च चतुःशतम् ।। चतुर्दश भविष्यं स्यात्तथा पञ्चशतानि च । दशाष्टौ ब्रह्मवैवर्त लैंङ्गमेकादशैव तु ।। चतुर्विंशतिवाराहमेकाशीतिसहस्रकम् । स्कन्दं शतं तथा चैकं वामनं दश कीर्तितम् ।। कौ सप्तदशाख्यातं मात्स्यं तत्तु चतुर्दश । एकोनविंशत्सौपर्ण ब्रह्माण्डं द्वादशैव तु ।। एवं पुराणसन्दोहश्चतुर्लक्ष उदाहृतः । तत्राष्टदशसाहस्रं श्रीभागवतं इष्यते । ।
( Srimad Bhagvatam 12:13:4-9 )
Translation : The Brahma Purana has 10,000, the Padma Purana has 55,000, the Vishnu Purana has 23,000, and the Shiva Purana has 24,000 verses. The Shrimad Bhagavata Purana has 18,000, the Narada Purana has 25,000, the Markandeya Purana has 9,000, and the Agni Purana has 15,400 verses. The Bhavishya Purana has 14,500, the Brahma Vaivarta Purana has 18,000, and the Linga Purana has 11,000 verses. The Varaha Purana has 24,000, the Skanda Purana has 81,100, and the Vamana Purana has 10,000 verses. The Kurma Purana has 17,000, the Matsya Purana has 14,000, the Garuda Purana has 19,000, and the Brahmanda Purana has 12,000 verses. Thus, the total number of verses in all the Puranas is four lakh . Of these, 18,000 verses are from the Shrimad Bhagavata Purana.
𝗔𝘂𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗰𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗼𝗳 𝗣𝘂𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗮𝘀
Puranas are fifth Vedas -
एवं वा अरेऽस्य महतो भूतस्य निःश्वसितमेतद् यदृग्वेदो यजुर्वेदः सामवेदोऽथर्व्वांगिरस इतिहासः पुराणम्”
(Brihadaranyaka Upanishad 2:4:10)
Translation : Sage Yajnavalkya said to Maitreyi, "All the Rigveda, Yajurveda, Samaveda, Atharvaveda, Itihasa, and Puranas are manifested through the breath of the Supreme Being." This means that just as the four Vedas are apaurushya, i.e., not of human origin, the Itihasa and Puranas are also apaurushya and are of the same form as the Vedas. They are not separate from the Vedas.
"ऋग्वेदं भगवोऽध्येमि यजुर्वेदं सामवेदमाथर्वणं चतुर्थमितिहासं पुराणं पञ्चमं वेदानां वेदम्”
(Chandogya Upanishad 7:1:12 )
Translation : "Oh Lord! I contemplate on the Rigveda, Yajurveda, Samaveda, Atharvaveda, and the fifth Veda which is the consideration of history and Puranas.
ऋग्यजुः सामाथर्वाख्या वेदाष्चत्वार उद्धृताः ।
इतिहास पुराणञ्च पञ्चमो वेद उच्यते ।।
(Srimad Bhagavatam 1:4:20)
Translation : "The Rigveda, Yajurveda, Samaveda, and Atharvaveda are the four Vedas, and the fifth Veda is called Itihasa-Purana."
इतिहासपुराणाभ्यां वेदं समुबृंहयेत्
(Mahabharata Adiparva 1:267)
Translation : "One should supplement the Vedas with the Itihasas and Puranas."
एवमिमे सर्वे वेदा निर्मितास्सकल्पा सरहस्या: सब्राह्मणा सोपनिषत्का: सेतिहासा: सांव्यख्याता:सपुराणा:सस्वरा:ससंस्काराः सनिरुक्ता: सानुशासना सानुमार्जना: सवाकोवाक्या
(Gopatha Brahmana, Poorvabhag: Prapathaka 2)
Translation: Similarly, all the Vedas, Kalpas, Brahmanas, Upanishads, Itihasas, Puranas, Vedic chants, accents, and rituals, including Anuvakas, Anushasanas, and Aranyakas, are all created by the Supreme Being
ऋचः सामानि छन्दांसि पुराणं यजुषा सह |
उच्छिष्टाज् जज्ञिरे सर्वे दिवि देवा दिविश्रितः |
(Atharvaveda 11:1:24)
Translation : All the Devtas residing in heaven were created along with the Rig, Sama and Yajur Vedas along with Puranas .
मध्याहुतयो ह वा एतादेवानांयदनुशासनानी विद्या वाकोवाक्यमितिहासः पुराणं गाथा नराशंस्य: य एवम् विद्वाननुशासनानि विद्या वकोवाक्यमितिहास पुराणं गाथा नाराशंसिरित्यहरह: स्वाध्यायमधीते
(Śatapatha Brahmana 11:3:8:8)
Translation : Shastras are offerings among the God, which include the knowledge of God, Brahma-vidya, and other Vidya, as well as texts in the form of question and answer, history, Puranas, poetry(Gitas) , and Narashamsi. These Shastras are to be studied regularly as a sacrifice to the God.
अथ नवमेऽहन्तानुपदिशति पुराणं वेदः ।
सोऽयमिति किञ्चित् पुराणामचक्षीत्।
(Shatapatha Brahmana 13:4:3:13)
Translation : "Then on the ninth day, the Purana was taught, the Vedas said, 'This is it,' and thus spoke of some Puranas."
𝗣𝘂𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗮𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗩𝗲𝗱𝗮𝘀 𝗲𝘀𝘀𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗲 -
वेदवन्निश्चलं मन्ये पुराणं वै द्विजोत्तमाः ।
वेदाः प्रतिष्ठिताः सर्वे पुराणे नात्र संशयः ॥ ९० ॥
(Skanda Purana: Prabhaskhanda 1:2:90)
O excellent Dvija , the Purāṇa is steady like the Vedas. All the Vedas are established in the Purāṇas. There is no doubt about it.
सर्ववेदार्थसाराणि पुराणानीति भूपते ।
(Narada Purana 1:6:100)
Translation : "O King, the essence of all Vedic knowledge is present in the Puranas."
𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝘁𝗼𝗽𝗶𝗰 𝗲𝘅𝗽𝗹𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗲𝗱 𝗶𝗻 𝗣𝘂𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗮𝘀
While reading Puranas I have noticed a same verse repeated many times for defining Puranas content -
सर्गश्च प्रतिसर्गश्च वंशो मनवन्तराणि च।
वंशान्चरितञ्चैव प्राणं पञ्चलक्षणम् ।।
( Matsya Purana 53:64)
(Kūrma Purāṇa 1:1:12)
(Brahmavaivarta Purāṇa, 4:133:6)
(Suta Samhita 1:1:33)
(Vishnu Purana 3:6:25)
(Vayu Purana 4:10)
Translation:
These five topics are covered in the Puranas -
1. Manvantara Vijñana (Knowledge of Manus or the cyclic periods of time)
2. Sarga Vijñana (Knowledge of Creation)
3. Pratisarga Vijñana (Knowledge of Recreation)
4. Vamsha Vijñana (Knowledge of Genealogy)
5. Vashanucharita Vijñana (Knowledge of Dynasties and their conduct)
𝗖𝗹𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗳𝗶𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗼𝗳 𝗣𝘂𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗮
वैष्णवं नारदीयं च तथा भागवतं शुभम् ।
गारुडं च तथा पाद्मं वाराहं शुभदर्शने ।
सात्विकानि पुराणानि विज्ञेयानि शुभानि वै ।।
ब्रह्माण्डं ब्रह्मवैवर्तं मार्कण्डेयं तथैव च ।
भविष्यं वामनं ब्राह्मं राजसानि निबोधत ।।
मात्सयं कौर्मं तथा लैङ्गम् शैवं स्कान्दं तथैव च ।
आग्नेयं च षडेतानि तामसानि निबोधत ।।
(Padma Purana : Uttarakhanda 236:18-20)
Translation : Vishnu Purana, Naradiya Puran, Padma Purana, Garuda Purana, Varaha Purana, Srimad Bhagavata Purana .
Brahmanda Purana, Brahmavaivarta, Markandeya Purana, Bhavishya Purana, Vamana Purana, Brahma Purana .
Matsya Purana, Kurma Purana, Linga Purana, Shiva Purana, Skanda Purana, Agni Purana .
वाराहं वैष्णवं पाद्मं वायुप्रोक्तं च गारुडम्।
श्रीमद्भागवतं चैव सात्विकानीति हि श्रुतिः॥
ब्रह्माण्डं ब्रह्मवैवर्तं मार्कण्डेयं च वामनम्।
भविष्यं नारसिंहं च राजसानि षडैव हि॥
मात्स्यं कौर्म्यं तथा लैङ्ग्यं शैवं स्कान्दं तथैव च।
पाशुपतसंज्ञिकं चेति तामसानि विदो विदुः॥
(Prakasa Samhita 1:4:32-34)
Translation : Varaha ,Vishnu,Padma, Vayu, Garuda and the Srimad bhagavata purana are sattvik puranas.Brahmanda, Brahmavaivarta, Markendeya,Vamana,Bhavishya and Narsimha purana are always rajasic.Matysa, Kurma,Linga,Siva,Skanda and the Pasupata Sastra are the tamasic in nature.
अन्यानि विष्णोः प्रतिपादकानिसर्वाणि ते सात्त्विकानीति चाहुः।
(Garuḍa Purāṇa 3:1:42)
Translation : The Purāṇas devoted to Lord Sri Hari are Satvika .
विष्णोः पुराणं भागवतं पुराणं सत्त्वोत्तमं गरुडं चाहुर् आर्यः।
(Garuda Purana 3:1:52)
Translation : “The Arya Purāṇas Vishnu Purana, Bhagavata Purana and Garuda Purana the best of the Satvika Puranas .
𝗦𝘂𝗽𝗿𝗲𝗺𝗲 𝗣𝘂𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗮 𝗮𝗺𝗼𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝗣𝘂𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗮𝘀
पुराणेषु तु सर्वेषु श्रीमद् भागवतं परम्
यत्र प्रति-पदम् कृष्णो गीयते बहुधा ऋषिभिः।
(Padma Purana: Uttara-khanda 193:3)
Translation : Of all the puranas, the Srimad Bhagavatam is the greatest. In every line the Sages glorify Sri Krsna in various ways.
सर्ववेदान्तसारं हि श्रीभागवतमिष्यते ।
तद्रसामृततृप्तस्य नान्यत्र स्याद्रति: क्वचित् ॥ १५ ॥
(Śrimad Bhāgavatam 12 : 13 : 15)
Translation : Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam is declared to be the essence of all Vedānta philosophy. One who has felt satisfaction from its nectarean mellow will never be attracted to any other literature.
सूत उवाच - श्रीमद् भागवतस्याथ श्रीमद्भगवतः सदा ।
स्वरूपमेकमेवास्ति सच्चिदानन्दलक्षणम् ॥
(Skanda Purana : Vaishnava khanda 6:4:3)
Translation : Sutji says, "O sages! The form of Shrimad Bhagavatam and Shri Bhagavan are always the same, and that is the embodiment of truth, consciousness, and bliss.
𝗪𝗵𝘆 𝗗𝗶𝗳𝗳𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗽𝘂𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗮𝘀 𝘄𝗿𝗶𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗻 𝗯𝘆 𝗩𝘆𝗮𝘀𝗵𝗮𝗱𝗲𝘃𝗮 ?
We have to understand that there is not only one Vyashdeva but actually there are traditionally total 28 Vyasas, who are believed to be the compilers of the Vedas and the Puranas. The term "Vyasa" means "compiler" or "editor." However, the most well-known Last Vyasa is Krishna Dvaipayana Vyasa, who is considered to be the author of the Mahabharata, as well as the compiler and editor of the Vedas and the Puranas. In every Kalpa Vishnu take Incranation as a Vyasha to explain the Dharma through scriptures.So all "Vysha" is a title given to that scriptures compiler.
संक्षिप्य चतुरो वेदांश्चतुर्द्धा व्यभजत् प्रभुः । व्यस्तवेदतया ख्यातो वेदव्यास इतिस्मृतः ।।पुराणमपि संक्षिप्तं चतुर्लक्षप्रमाणतः । अद्याप्यमर्त्यलोके तु शतकोटिप्रविस्तरम् ।।
(Vayaviya Samhita 1:33-34)
Translation : "The Lord Incranation Krishna Dvaipayan divided the four Vedas into four parts and thus classified them. He became famous as Vedavyasa due to this division of the Vedas. Even the Puranas were summarized into four hundred thousand verses. Today, there are still hundreds of millions of verses in the mortal world.Shri Vedavyasa condensed and abbreviated the vast Puranas into four hundred thousand verses. Even today, there are one hundred crore (one billion) verses in the realm of Brahmaloka (the divine realm)."
पुराणेषु च वैषम्यं युगकल्पव्यवस्थया ।
न चाप्रामाण्यशंका ते कथाया व्यत्यये क्वचित् ॥ ७० ॥
(SkandaPurana:Vaishnava khanda 7:13:70)
Translation : "There is diversity in the Puranas due to differences in the arrangement of Yugas and Kalpas, but there is no doubt about their authenticity. The differences are only minor."
◉So the Vyashdeva wrote according to Kalpa in which he take Incranation -
सात्त्विकेष्वथ कल्पेषु माहात्म्यमधिकं हरेः।
तामसेषु हरस्योक्तं राजसेषु प्रजापतेः॥
(Kūrma Purāṇa 2:45:41)
Translation : The sāttvika kalpas predominantly glorify Lord Hari. The glories of Śiva is prominent in the tāmasika ones; and those in the mode of passion prominently glorify Brahmā.
रजो ब्रह्मा तमो रुद्रो विष्णुः सत्त्वं जगत्पतिः ।
एत एव त्रयो देवा एत एव त्रयो गुणाः॥४६.१८॥
(Markendeya Purana 46:18)
Translation : "Brahma represents the quality of passion (rajo guna), Rudra represents the quality of ignorance (tamo guna), the Lord of the universe (jagatpatihi) Vishnu represents the quality of goodness (sattva guna). These three deities are nothing but the three qualities (guna) themselves."
◉That's why Sattvika scriptures are based on Truth and must be readable by all -
सात्त्विकेषु पुराणेषु माहात्म्यमधिकं हरेः ।
राजसेषु च माहात्म्यमधिकं ब्रह्मणो विदुः ॥ ६७
तद्वदग्नेश्च माहात्म्यं तामसेषु शिवस्य च ।
संकीर्णेषु सरस्वत्याः पितॄणां च निगद्यते ॥ ६८
(Matsya Purana 53 : 67-68)
Translation : The glory of Hari is greater in sattvika scripture; the glory of Brahma is greater in rajasika scriptures; and that of Agni and Siva greater in tamasika scriptures. In mixed scriptures the glory of Sarasvati and the pitrs is said to be greater."
◉ Therefore only Satvika Puranas gave the path of liberation and truth -
सात्विका मोक्षदाः प्रोक्ताः राजसा सर्वदा अशुभाः ।
तथैव तामसा देवि निरयप्राप्तिहेतवः ।।
(Padma Purana : Uttarakhanda 236:21)
Translation : Among these puranas Satvika Puranas lead one to liberation, Rajasa do not cause good and tamasa puranas lead one to hell.
Hare Krsna,
My obeisances to all devotees, guru and gauranga.
The way I see it prabhu: Mahabharatha was narrated by sage Vyasa and Lord Ganesha transcribed it. And we all know that Bhagavad Gita falls within the Mahabharatha text.
Now, when sage Vyasa who is the literary incarnation of Vishnu and Lord Ganesha who is given the status of Pratham pujya did not have any issues or doubts or conflicts to narrate or write respectively that Lord Krsna is the Supreme Personality, then who are we (insignificant human beings) to compare between demigods and Krsna. If any other God was supreme, then I dont see why sage Vyasa wouldn't have narrated the other God's name.
Prabhu the arguments between who is supreme has, is and will exist for a long time. Let us not waste time trying to understand something that's incomprehensible to us. I am not disrespecting Lord Shiva or his devotees/followers but I am sure even Lord Shiva if prayed will eventually raise the soul towards Krsna. That is how Lord Shiva does his service to Krsna.
That is my limited knowledge on the topic prabhu. Please excuse me if I hurt anyone with my response.
Hare krsna.
According to all scriptures, puranas, upaniahads, vedas, acaryas - Krishna is the Supreme Personality of godhead.
That video is flawed, the book he shows is flawed, the manner he picks selective lines is flawed and most importantly the conclusion is flawed.
Bhagavad Gita As it is & Srimad Bhagavatam written by Srila prabhupada gives the exact sanskrit verse, word to word translation, meaning verse by verse and purport.
Hare Krishna
radhe radhe !! nice bharatji !
i got the answer for shaivas shiva is supreme and for vaishnavas krishna is supreme and by shankaracharya one who compares ram(vishnu) and shiva is a fool person..........also its better for me to follow the puran,ved,upanishad which can boost the krishna bhakti path ! Forgive me for my offences if any !
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cSh_PGToPgk
actually every person doesnt gets a guru and in this ghor kalikal its very hard to get a real guru many dhongi's are there but many real are also there. also guru can be sun,moon,earth,bee, and many more who teaches something which can help one to boost the bhakti path.
thanks i got the answer . hare krishna !
So that is what your friend also might have done. Never read any puranas but assumed many things about it. I hope your confusions are cleared.
Hare Krishna
Hare Krishna,
Krishna is the Supreme Lord he can appear from anywhere and every where. Lord Varaha dev appeared from the nosetel of Lord Brhma, Narshimadev appeared from the Pillar...So does not matter the Supreme Lord he can appear from anywhere..Krishna is supreme lord because he possess the Six opulence in full.. As your friend said each purana glorifies each devas..thats why Sri Narada Muni chatised Vyasadev in 1st canto of Srimad Bhagavatam..why did u write all this puranas and confuse the people? He ask to write clearly and he ask to glorify the supreme lord directly... Manu says in Manusamhita if there is any conflicts between two purana then u need to take which ever the purana is in the mood of goodness. i.e Siva Purana is in the mood of Tamo Guna but Srimad Bhagavatam is in the Mood of Goodness so u need to take it whatever Srimad Bhagavatam says..u can see in srimad Bhagavatam lord siva clearly glorifies Lord Krishna..Visnusahasra Nama lord Siva asking parvathi to chant the name of Lord Rama...So no need to get confuse Krishna is the supreme he is origin of everything ..Hare Krishna
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