it is wrong bcz they are also humans...even though they eat meat but they also pray sincerely...how can some one folowing their customs can be said wrng..and dont you think that hating muslims means u r nt loving gods creation..they r also his children...i know some ppl are kind of bad...but it dosent mean that everyone is bad.. u say allah or u say krishna god comes for help..then y these hatered feeling..

           dont u think that when god loves everyone..u should allso love them

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  • Volunteer

    it is true when we dislike people for their sins we won't be able to give them something. If for anger we answer with anger it means we are in the same level. But senior and little bit intelligent one should forgive and give love, respect ...to the soul and Super soul.

    It is true because of uncontrolled senses some people do many wrong things but somehow we have to find way of pacifying their anger and then ignorance but it won't happen if we do as they do to us.

    Who knows who we were in our previous life times? MLECHCHHA! YAVANA! OUT CASTE! Jai ho! So much low! 

    So there is no need and time for such like discrimination :(((((

    EVERY SINNER HAS A FUTURE & EVERY SAINT HAS A PAST. 

    So if we offend jivas who knows if those jivas by the supreme miracle of God become a pure Devotee of Krishna???? Then our offense will be considered as a great Vaishnava apparadha be it done before person becomes a Devotee.

    So it is very dangerous to disturb others.

    It is like Dhruva Maharaja's step mother.

    She offended him when he was not a Devotee but after he became a Devotee she got a full pack of reaction of a Vaishnva apparadha:

    her son was lost in the forest and looking for him she was burnt in forest fire into ashes...

    So it is very dangerous.

    Only way is TO FIND SOME OTHER SOLUTION OF GIVING THEM KRISHNA. Heart!!!!

    Everyone has heart but in some it is locked very tightly in some not so. Only the kindest and selfless person can open those doors into their hearts and put there seed of bhakti. Let' pray to be one of such 'heart openier' Devotees! ;) 

    Your servant, 

     

  • It is not difficult to love your fellow Vaishnav because he loves you!

    Jesus Christ says "love your enemies, those who persecute you!"(There is a reference to Christ Jesus in the Quran)

    For if you love only those who love you, where is the reward in that?

  • HARI BOL

    JAI SRILA PRABHUPADA

    JAI ACHARYAS

    JAI VAISHNAVAS

    MATA JI!

    FIRST OF ALL WHO ARE MUSLIMS ACCORDING TO VEDAS- BOOKS OF KNOWLEDGE? THEY ARE YEVANANS OR MLECHHAS AND ARE CALLED MEAT-EATERS OR OUTCASTES. THEY ARE FIFTH LEVEL BELOW SUDRA. FOR THEIR ELEVATION THERE IS KORAN. THEY CAN’T FOLLOW VEDAS.

    MOHAMMAD WAS HIMSELF SENT TO ELEVATE THEM FROM ANIMAL CONSCIOUSNESS.

    NOW CONSIDER CATEGORIES:

    SO-CALLED MUSLIMS: TWO TYPES:

    SO-CALLED SECULARS AND SINFUL

    WHEN ONE ACTS AGAINST DIRECTIONS OF SCTIPTURES, IT IS CALLED SIN. THERE ARE MANY SO-CALLED MUSLIMS WHO SPREAD VIOLENCE AND HARM BUDDHISTS, HINDUS, INNOCENT PEOPLE AND WORST OF ALL VAISHANAVAS.

    THERE ARE MANY SO-CALLE SECUALRS WHO ARE IN REALITY DISGUISED ATHEISTS. THESE TWO TYPES OF MUSLIMS CANNOT PROGRESS BUT DEGRADE.

    NORMAL MUSLIMS(LIKE KARMIS): THEY ARE LIKE FOLLOWERS OF KARMA-KANDA OF VEDAS. THEY BELIEVE IN ALLAH’S JUSTICE AND OMNISCIENCE. BUT  THEY EAT MEAT, AND DO NOT WANT TO KNOW REALLY ABOUT ALLAH.

    ELEVATED MUSLIMS: THESE TYPE OF PEOPLE ARE SPIRITUAL-MINDED. THEY READ SCRIPTURES SCRUTINIZINGLY AND CAN CROSS SECATRIANISM TO KNOW TRUTH. THEY DON’T EAT MEAT. THESE PEOPLE ARE FIT TO SURRENDER TO LORD AND BECOME VAISHANAVAS(REVIVING ORIGINAL NATURE OF JIVA). SRILA PRABHUPADA SAYS THAT KRSNA CONSCIOUSNESS IS POST GRADUATE OF ALL RELIGIONS. SO, ONE CERTAINLY HAS TO GO BEYOND KORAN, BIBLE AND AVAISHNAVA SCRIPTURES WHICH CONTAIN INDIRECT GLORIES OF SUPREME IN DIFFERENT FEATURES.

    THERE ARE SOME UNACCEPTABLE THINGS IN KORAN:

    ALLOWING COW SLAUGHTER, SPREADING VIOLENCE TO SPREAD ISLAM, SUBDUING AND HARMING NON-MUSLIMS, ETC.

    THINGS TO BE TAKEN AS FACT:

    ISLAM IS NOT ETERNAL RELIGION.

    KORAN IS NOT ETERNAL. KORAN IS NOT NON-SECTARIAN. KORAN WAS CFREATED TO ELEVATE MEAT-EATERS TO LEVEL OF ATLEAST SUDRA AFTER  MANY LIVES OR DIRECTLY VAISHNAVAS BY DEVOTEE ASSOCIATION.

    PROPHET MOHAMMAD PREACHED ACCORDING TO DESA-KALA-PATRA. IT IS NOT UNIVERSAL.

    THE ABOVE COW SLAUGHTER AND VIOLENCE MAY HAVE BEEN INSERTED LATER OR WE SHOULD NOT BE SURPRISED.

    IT IS SAID IN BHAGAVATAM CANTO 1 THAT IN KALIYUGA, LOWLY HUMANS WILL EAT BEEF AND ENGAGE IN SINFUL ACTIVITIES AND JUST DO LIP SERVICE. THEY ARE NOT REALLY HUMANS BECAUSE HUMAN FORM OF LIFE IS DISTINGUISHED FROM ANIMALS BECAUSE OF RELIGIOUS AND SPIRITUAL ADVANCEMENT.

    THEY ARE PSEUDO-THEISTS, DISGUISED ATHEISTS AND ATHEISTS. THESE CAN DO ONLY HARM TO WORLD AS IS EVIDENT TODAY.

    YOU SHOULD ALSO READ THIS DISCUSSION:

    http://www.iskcondesiretree.net/forum/topics/what-happens-to-sects-...

     

  • Dear Rahul Prabhuji,

    Hare Krishna !

    I only objected to using the phrase 'highly elevated souls' for those who do not deserve to be titled so. Otherwise my intention was not to spread hatred and violence.

    However, I can at no cost develop love towards that religion and its adherents who have declared a war against all other religions.

    How can we develop love towards those who recently beheaded the archavigrahas of our deities in Bangladesh temple ? How can we develop love towards those who slaughter thousands of cows ? How can we develop love towards those who barge inside Hindu temples and shoot Hindu Sadhus and devotees ? How can we develop love towards those who destroy Hindu temples ? 

    In short, I can not develop love towards those people who blaspheme and try to destroy the very basic fabric of Vedic society. 

    I consider these people as cancer virus in human society. 

    There are very few Muslims who possess respect towards other religions. Even if there are some, they are not very religious and have never read the scriptures of their religion.

    Quran views other religions' followers as 'kafirs' and sees them with an eye of contempt. 

    Your servant...

    • Volunteer

      If you can not have feeling that other soul be they of any religion are elevated souls ,

      then it is disobedience of Mahaprabhu's instruction " Trindapi sunichena .. .. "

      Also if you think that these people are virus then you are very very wrong and doing a Vaishnav apradh to sincere followers of ISLAM .

      Even many devotee's in our community is belonged to same religion .

      This will be great insult to Srila Haridas Thakur and The Great Ras Khan .

      • The principle cocooned in the verse, "trnad api sunichena taror iva sahisnuna amanina manadena kirtaniyah sada harih", teaches us to maintain personal forbearance in case of being hurt by our enemies. But it is not applicable when someone harms God/temple or His holy Sadhu or other Vaishnavas or cow or anything sacred. If one maintains silence in the light of blasphemy in such cases, then he should not be called as a devotee, but a non-devotee.

        Having dislike towards adharmis is not an aparadha towards adharmis, but a normal behaviour of a Vaishnava. If we love adharmis then we will soon start following their path. I still can not understand why you call those adharmis as 'elevated souls'.

        Those who convert from Islam to Bhagvad dharma are no longer Mussalmans. They should be treated like any other Vaishnavas. 

  • Volunteer

    No one hates anyone , Its not correct every Muslim eat meat .

    When you will meet real people who follow Quran , you will know they are highly elevated  people .

    We do not hate anyone , we can only hate bad habits .

    • thanks..but most of the people dnt think lyk that..thats the reason fr this post

    • Dear Ashwani Prabhuji,

      • hare krishna ....they may feel idol wrship is sinful..but they do bliv that god exists..and they do pray..krishna bus prem aur devotion chahte hai..jo prem krta hai unke pass hamesha rehte hai..cahhe kisi bhi naam se pukare..aapko kya lagta hai sare muslims bure hai..bcz they eat cows..if you were not hindu..bachpan se jo sikhayenge wahi to aap karoge..aur ek baat vo log jab pray krte hai sache mann se karte hai...there are many bad habits ..but still they r children of gaod..and ppl should know that god loves every one...and insaan jaise bhi ho..jitni bhi galti kare..jab bhagwan ko pray krta hai...vo hamesha unke kareeb rehta hai

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