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Good population in human society is the basic principle for peace, prosperity and spiritual progress in life. The varṇāśrama religion’s principles were so designed that the good population would prevail in society for the general spiritual progress of state and community. Such population depends on the chastity and faithfulness of its womanhood. As children are very prone to be misled, women are similarly very prone to degradation. Therefore, both children and women require protection by the elder members of the family. By being engaged in various religious practices, women will not be misled into adultery. According to Cāṇakya Paṇḍita, women are generally not very intelligent and therefore not trustworthy. So the different family traditions of religious activities should always engage them, and thus their chastity and devotion will give birth to a good population eligible for participating in the varṇāśrama system. On the failure of such varṇāśrama-dharma, naturally the women become free to act and mix with men, and thus adultery is indulged in at the risk of unwanted population. Irresponsible men also provoke adultery in society, and thus unwanted children ﬂood the human race at the risk of war and pestilence.
SB 2.7.6 — To exhibit His personal way of austerity and penance, He appeared in twin forms as Nārāyaṇa and Nara in the womb of Mūrti, the wife of Dharma and the daughter of Dakṣa. Celestial beauties, the companions of Cupid, went to try to break His vows, but they were unsuccessful, for they saw that many beauties like them were emanating from Him, the Personality of Godhead.
The Lord, being the source of everything that be, is the origin of all austerities and penances also. Great vows of austerity are undertaken by sages to achieve success in self-realization. Human life is meant for such tapasya, with the great vow of celibacy, or brahmacarya. In the rigid life of tapasya, there is no place for the association of women. And because human life is meant for tapasya, for self-realization, factual human civilization, as conceived by the system of sanātana-dharma or the school of four castes and four orders of life, prescribes rigid dissociation from woman in three stages of life. In the order of gradual cultural development, one’s life may be divided into four divisions — celibacy, household life, retirement and renunciation. During the first stage of life, up to twenty-five years of age, a man may be trained as a brahmacārī under the guidance of a bona fide spiritual master just to understand that woman is the real binding force in material existence. If one wants to get freedom from the material bondage of conditional life, he must get free from the attraction for the form of woman. Woman, or the fair sex, is the enchanting principle for the living entities, and the male form, especially in the human being, is meant for self-realization. The whole world is moving under the spell of womanly attraction, and as soon as a man becomes united with a woman, he at once becomes a victim of material bondage under a tight knot. The desires for lording it over the material world, under the intoxication of a false sense of lordship, specifically begin just after the man’s unification with a woman. The desires for acquiring a house, possessing land, having children and becoming prominent in society, the affection for community and the place of birth, and the hankering for wealth, which are all like phantasmagoria or illusory dreams, encumber a human being, and he is thus impeded in his progress toward self-realization, the real aim of life. The brahmacārī, or a boy from the age of five years, especially from the higher castes, namely from the scholarly parents (the brāhmaṇas), the administrative parents (the kṣatriyas), or the mercantile or productive parents (the vaiśyas), is trained until twenty-five years of age under the care of a bona fide guru or teacher, and under strict observance of discipline he comes to understand the values of life along with taking specific training for a livelihood. The brahmacārī is then allowed to go home and enter householder life and get married to a suitable woman. But there are many brahmacārīs who do not go home to become householders but continue the life of naiṣṭhika-brahmacārīs, without any connection with women. They accept the order of sannyāsa, or the renounced order of life, knowing well that combination with women is an unnecessary burden that checks self-realization. Since sex desire is very strong at a certain stage of life, the guru may allow the brahmacārī to marry; this license is given to a brahmacārī who is unable to continue the way of naiṣṭhika-brahmacarya, and such discriminations are possible for the bona fide guru. A program of so-called family planning is needed. The householder who associates with woman under scriptural restrictions, after a thorough training of brahmacarya, cannot be a householder like cats and dogs. Such a householder, after fifty years of age, would retire from the association of woman as a vānaprastha to be trained to live alone without the association of woman. When the practice is complete, the same retired householder becomes a sannyāsī, strictly separate from woman, even from his married wife. Studying the whole scheme of disassociation from women, it appears that a woman is a stumbling block for self-realization, and the Lord appeared as Nārāyaṇa to teach the principle of womanly disassociation with a vow in life. The demigods, being envious of the austere life of the rigid brahmacārīs, would try to cause them to break their vows by dispatching soldiers of Cupid. But in the case of the Lord, it became an unsuccessful attempt when the celestial beauties saw that the Lord can produce innumerable such beauties by His mystic internal potency and that there was consequently no need to be attracted by others externally. There is a common proverb that a confectioner is never attracted by sweetmeats. The confectioner, who is always manufacturing sweetmeats, has very little desire to eat them; similarly, the Lord, by His pleasure potency, can produce innumerable spiritual beauties and not be the least attracted by the false beauties of material creation. One who does not know alleges foolishly that Lord Kṛṣṇa enjoyed women in His rāsa-līlā in Vṛndāvana, or with His sixteen thousand married wives at Dvārakā.
SB 3.31.38 — Just try to understand the mighty strength of My māyā in the shape of woman, who by the mere movement of her eyebrows can keep even the greatest conquerors of the world under her grip.
Hare krishna , Thank you very much for the reply
Well, I happen to have a woman's body. So it's always a bit discouraging whenever this discussion comes up, and frankly, it feels bad.
I am sort of reconciling it by looking it at this way, Krishna also says in the Bhagavat Gita that be it women, shudras, or untouchables, everyone is purified in Krishna consciousness. Now that means even men who are shudras are in the same category as women. Plus in Kaliyuga, everyone is to be considered as a sudra because no one does the garbadhana samskara. So whether you are a man, woman, anything, we are technically in the same boat.
I do admit that physically bodies are different,and one devotee told me that in my previous life I might have been a man and thinking of a woman so i got to be a woman (Whatever one thinks at the moment of death, he attains that- BG) And you might have been a woman and thinking of a man so became a man in this life. So no one really knows apart from Krishna. And I think Krishna won't judge me for being a woman in this birth. To him i am already in the material world hankering for other things that dont concern him, like any other man. But when I serve krishna,... "Samoham sarva bhutesu na me dveshyo stinah priya. "I envy no one, nor am I partial to anyone, I am equal to all. But whoever renders service unto me with love and devotion is a friend, is in me, and I am also a friend to him. "
So Krishna didnt put any conditions here, he just said "whoever renders service unto me" which means everybody practically. In pushtimarg vaishnavism of the Rudra Sampraday, women are more favoured compared to men because the whole worship centers on caring for bala gopal. So caring for a 3 year old boy like yashodamata. This is because of the natural maternal affection that comes from the hormones found only in the women's body. Men can't really care for a child even practically speaking. So according to my understanding, women are "less intelligent" but that's not really a weakness,... its nature. I could also call men as having less "emotional intelligence". in fact, there is now something known as IQ (intelligence quotient) and EQ(Emotional Quotient) Predictably, women score more on EQ tests than men (though women also do well on IQ, but you get the point) Men are very terrible at understanding emotions and cannot readily empathise, visibly. If you have a child, you must have looked at your wife as having supermystical powers..how does she really know that the child is crying not because he is hungry but because of indigestion? That means you are less intelligent in that way, the emotional quotient.
Now talking about self-realisation, i do think the type of body matters, but to only 40%. The rest is in your mind. These days there is something known as hormone therapy where they change the sex of the person, and quite remarkably. So when I see women who become men, perfectly intelligent, and the reverse, the genderlessness of the body becomes more tangible to my understanding, and I suddenly see everything as soul ultimately. After a certain point after reading those verses and getting discouraged, I sort of picked up by looking at that. This story is real, of Barbara from wikipedia, u could read the full article.
"Barres has described experiences of gender discrimination in MIT. Once, after solving a difficult math problem that stumped many male students, he was charged with an accusation that it was solved for him by a boyfriend. He was the top student in the class, but found it hard to get a willing supervisor for research. He lost a scholarship to a man who had only one publication, while he already had six.While earning a PhD at Harvard, he was told that he was to win a scientific competition, which was evidently between him and one man; the Dean confided to him, “I have read both applications, and it’s going to be you; your application is so much better.” But the award was given to the man, who dropped out of science a year later.
After transitioning, he noticed that people who were not aware of his transgender status treated him with respect much more than when he presented as a woman.After delivering his first seminar as a man, one scientist was overheard to comment, “Ben Barres gave a great seminar today, but his work is much better than his sister’s [believing Barbara to be his sister] work.”In 2012, he recollected the events of his sex change as:
When I decided to change sex 15 years ago I didn't have role models to point to. I thought that I had to decide between identify and career. I changed sex thinking my career might be over. The alternative choice I seriously contemplated at the time was suicide, as I could not go on as Barbara.
So to conclude, I would like to point out to the verses of Bhagavad Gita "To one who is engaged in constantly serving me with love, I give them the understanding by which they can come to me" I cant help but think of pushtimarga and all those higlhy elevated devotees I have come to see in my acquaintace, they dont know much of philosophy, but they are so into taking care of lala, by giving him bhog, in fact their whole worship could last from anything from 1-6 hours daily!!
The specific sanskrit word is "dadami buddhi" meaning "give intelligence". So now even if women are less intelligent hypothetically, then Krishna will supply that intelligence now. Also "I preserve what they have and take to them what they lack" what does that mean? Whatever women lack, Krishna will supply.
Also note that bhakti personified is a woman, from the Srimad Bhagvatam story of bhakti. And her two sons are gyan and vairagya. knowledge and renounciation. She became weak around 5000 years ago, and was instructed by Narada muni to go to naimisaranya where the Bhagvatam was being spoken to get revived. Also Saraswati devi herself is a woman, ancient gurukulas had all men pray to her to get knowledge. So we can see where the definitions of intelligent and less intelligent, man and woman are simply dualities of the material world. You have been a woman probably millions of times in this manvantara, and I a man many other millions of times. Better not to get encouraged or discouraged by the temporary body we happen to have in this birth, and look at the supreme diamond of bhakti that we shouldnt let go and pray to enter vraja in this birth.
Please correct me devotees if this needs corection, this is my current understanding of the situation.
Hare Krishna , Mataji thank you for your reply , I myself was not convinced earlier then i started to realize .
Those man who foolishly are attracted by form of a woman in this life, in next they become woman. Similar to that, woman attached to man gets mans body in next life. Vaishnavis who wanna learn the Truth should first understand that clearly and then without feeling of being offended, start to understand who we really are.
The process of migration of the soul from one material body form to another should be known by every Vaishnava neophyte. Unfortunately in modern time of this Age, those who teach that we are not this body, usually do not have a faith in such knowledge, then how the others can have.
To have a faith means to be fully convinced, and those who are fully convinced behave according to that.