• Let me write a poem (?) on this issue,

    The new born babe had a holy text in its hand

    He don't want mother, father or teacher as he is a born devotee to brought up him.

    He grew up without depending on these mortals
    Only he needed was gods book nothing else

    No demigod or teacher required to him

    Though a great scholar,
    The baby is still a baby!

    No disease and not deceased! !
    Let's have him as our guru!

    Because he is always enjoying and not suffering, he alone can guide us!

    Because even brahmaji and sivji committed errors and are suffering

    Only he can guide us!
    Even holy books are suffering due to silver fish! and may decay..

    His happiness is guaranteed as he is a devotee
    So be devotees like him and enjoy eternal happiness with this material dress

    Yes the dress is what matters, if the dress is white, accept him as guru!

    If he laments, is not bonafied!
    So if you see a devotee suffering, know he is a pretender!
    May he is not a devotee or may be mocking you and only acting, a best actor indeed!

    Are you waiting for such a guru alas! he is not yet born!!!
    Oh the disciple of talking text!
    • you said in your poem : 

      Because even brahmaji and sivji committed errors and are suffering


      This scenario can be only in a human dream or joke. 

      pure devotees are perfect and dont suffering material miseries.

  • The new born baby's blood inside the umbilical cord contains over 200 industrial chemical contaminants. Is it any wonder people are getting cancer? Add to that GMO, synthetic proteins, artificial ingredients, urea, DDT, pesticides, fluoride, Fukushima, 2000 nuclear weapon tests, cell phone towers and phone radiation, WIFI, etc. We are living in a toxic waste dump. 

    On top of all that people don't know how to eat. They take too many sweet, sour, salty foods and increase their KAPHA which is a metabolic cause of unwanted tissue growth. Everything is sweet now. People are avoiding bitter and astringent foods and they are getting fat, cancer, diabetes, allergies, asthma, etc. These are all kapha spectrum disorders. Through ayurveda it can be prevented. We have an ayurveda ministry that is not teaching anyone ayurveda. God knows why?

  • this is the way how to recognize real devotee of sri krishna :

    SB 7.7.34 — One who is situated in devotional service is certainly the controller of his senses, and thus he is a liberated person. When such a liberated person, the pure devotee, hears of the transcendental qualities and activities of the Lord’s incarnations for the performance of various pastimes, his hair stands on end on his body, tears fall from his eyes, and in his spiritual realization his voice falters. Sometimes he very openly dances, sometimes he sings loudly, and sometimes he cries. Thus he expresses his transcendental jubilation.
    SB 7.7.35 — When a devotee becomes like a person haunted by a ghost, he laughs and very loudly chants about the qualities of the Lord. Sometimes he sits to perform meditation, and he offers respects to every living entity, considering him a devotee of the Lord. Constantly breathing very heavily, he becomes careless of social etiquette and loudly chants like a madman, “Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa! O my Lord, O master of the universe!”
  • body pain of devotee is vanish with speed of the light by lords mercy ,

    but because unfaithful humans dont believe in a miracles of surrendering to god, they never surrender.


    SB 7.7.51-52 — My dear friends, O sons of the demons, you cannot please the Supreme Personality of Godhead by becoming perfect brāhmaṇas, demigods or great saints or by becoming perfectly good in etiquette or vast learning. None of these qualifications can awaken the pleasure of the Lord. Nor by charity, austerity, sacrifice, cleanliness or vows can one satisfy the Lord. The Lord is pleased only if one has unflinching, unalloyed devotion to Him. Without sincere devotion, everything is simply a show.


    only faith and devotion is matter to him, nothing else.

  • Cancer is just a nomenclature coined to a certain type of disease which was also existing before. There are examples of great devotees also in the past plagued with diseases eg Guru of Ramanujacharya was affected by severe disease.

    There are 2 types of our past Karma; sanchitha Karma( bundles of sacks of karma stocked in a  godown and not yet opened) and prarabdha karma(that which we are experiencing now). When we surrender to Krishna; he destroys the Sanchitha Karma completely; however he reschedules the prarabdha karma and destroys it slowly in the current life of a devotee and thus at the end of his life he goes back home back to godhead. The Sufferings of a devotee is the result of prarabdha karma.

    • you said : Sufferings of a devotee is the result of prarabdha karma.

      from which scripture its based that statement ?

      well, im going to quote the sloka from which my statements come.

      SB 3.25.23 — Engaged constantly in chanting and hearing about Me, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the sādhus(devotees) do not suffer from material miseries because they are always filled with thoughts of My pastimes and activities.
      sadhus or devotees ,do not suffer from material miseries such as illness or disease , because they always filled with thoughts of sri krishna ,but despite that fact , some vaisnavas dont agree with that.
      when devotee doing sravana kirtana smarana..., with faith , his material body also gets purification.
      when material body is purified ,chakras, vital air and material elements is also in good shape.
      under the waterfall dirt cant stay ,
      therefore even if disease come it cant stay in purified material body of devotee.
      krishna is master of karma, material elements and vital air,
      he is the master of death and life in all universe ,therefore he is master of everything and everyone.
      for sake of his dear devotees ,krishna is always standing with his sudarshana chakra for protection.
      what to talk about dirty illness in the life of neophyte.
      neophyte can be any person, despite position in society, but still without real faith in god.
      when person dont have a faith on the path of getting bhakty, being to proud and making offence to lord and his dear devotees, illness can be even more powerful.
      srimad bhagavatam gives us all eternal good advice about that subject,
      and im going to share it with those who have at least a drop of faith in god.

      SB 9.17.4

      kāśyasya kāśis tat-putro
       rāṣṭro dīrghatamaḥ-pitā
      dhanvantarir dīrghatamasa
      yajña-bhug vāsudevāṁśaḥ
      Word for word: 
      kāśyasya — of Kāśya; kāśiḥ — Kāśi; tat-putraḥ — his son; rāṣṭraḥ — Rāṣṭra; dīrghatamaḥ-pitā — he became the father of Dīrghatama; dhanvantariḥ — Dhanvantari; dīrghatamasaḥ — from Dīrghatama; āyuḥ-veda-pravartakaḥ— the inaugurator of medical science, Āyur Veda; yajña-bhuk — the enjoyer of the results of sacrifice; vāsudeva-aṁśaḥ — incarnation of Lord Vāsudeva; smṛta-mātra — if he is rememberedārti-nāśanaḥ — it immediately vanquishes all kinds of disease.
      The son of Kāśya was Kāśi, and his son was Rāṣṭra, the father of Dīrghatama. Dīrghatama had a son named Dhanvantari, who was the inaugurator of the medical science and an incarnation of Lord Vāsudeva, the enjoyer of the results of sacrifices. One who remembers the name of Dhanvantari can be released from all disease.
      so, what is the need or use of any doctor for real devotee of lord ?
      • Srimad Bhagavatam 4:29:73 purport of HDG Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupad reads: 
        It is sometimes said that because a child is innocent he is completely pure. Actually this is not the fact. The effects of fruitive activities reserved in the subtle body appear in three concurrent stages. One is called béja (the root), another is called küöa-stha (the desire), and another is called phalonmukha (about to fructify). The manifest stage is called prärabdha(already in action). In a conscious or unconscious state, the actions of the subtle or gross bodies may not be manifest, but such states cannot be called the liberated state. A child may be innocent, but this does not mean that he is a liberated soul. Everything is held in reservation, and everything will become manifest in due course of time.

        • thanks for your effort, but this statements is for ordinary humans, not for devotees.

          devotees of lord are special and therefore they dont suffer material miseries.

          SB 3.25.23 — Engaged constantly in chanting and hearing about Me, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the sādhus(devotees) do not suffer from material miseries because they are always filled with thoughts of My pastimes and activities.

          • E-Counselor

            Hare Krsna Prabhuji,


            It means "Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional." Devotee also undergoes pan, but being absorved in Krsna, does not suffer.


            Your servant,


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