I have seen a few devotees at temple who knows palm reading & do some sort of calculation by asking your birth date and time, accordingly they tell the future. So lots of other devotees are gets carried away from Krsna Counciousness & starts believing in them.
My question is, is it logical to believe the astrologers?
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This is a good article that will answer your question http://www.dandavats.com/?p=12941
Astrological calculations have come in handy while fixing the dates of various events mentioned in Mahabharata. Ved Vyasa gives a plentitude of astrological references. I extract some portions...
Mahabharata war started Based on the astrological information provided by Veda Vyaasa (Position of the stars etc), Mahabharata war was estimated to have started on 3067B.C. on 22nd November. On the day of the war, Vyaasa has described the astrological positions of the Sun, Moon, Rahu, Saturn, Guru, Mangala and Sukra planets. By looking at the position based on Panchangam, Indian Calendar, and matching with the position of the stars described by Vyaasa and comparing with the Julian calendar, one can arrive at the precise dates for the war. Furthermore all other related incidents that took place before and after the war were described in Mahabharata, and the dates for these can be precisely matched with the Julian calendar, as described bellow.
Last minute effort to make peace
Lord Krishna made a last minute effort to make peace but failed. He left the Upaplaavya city on Kaartiika Shuddha Dvaadasi day in Revati Nakshatra (star) between 7:36 – 8:24 am. He reached Hastinaapura in Bharani Nakshatra, and had discussions with the Kauravaas till Pushyami Nakshatra.
The day Duryodhana rejected the peace proposal was Krishna Pancami. Lord Krishna left Hastinaapura, and had consultations with KarNa before he departed. (He revealed to KarNa that he was the eldest son of Kunti on Uttara Palghuni day). Lord Krishna informed KarNa that Duryodhana must get ready to fight, seven days hence, which would be Amaavaasya day (new-moon day) with JyeshTa Nakshatra. Lord Krishna returned to Upaplaavya city on Chitta Nakshatra. Three days after that on Anuradha Nakshatra Lord Balarama came to Upaplaavya. Next Pushya Nakshtra day Pandavaas left with Lord Krishna to Kurukshetra.
Fifteen days after his return from Upaplaavya city, Lord Balarama left on Punarvasu Nakshatra on a tour of sacred places. (Lord Balarama did not want to participate in the war that involved cousins on both sides). He returned to Kurukshetra after forty-two days in the ShravaNa Nakshatra. The war already started eighteen days back. On the nineteenth day, BahuLa Caturdashi day on ShravaNa Nakshatra, Duryodhana died. It was the fifty-ninth day after Amaavaasya with JyeshTaa Nakshatra. Lord Krishna returned from Hastinaapura after his unsuccessful peace mission on Uttara Palghuna day. Starting from that day, the seventh day is new-moon day (amaavaasya) with Saturn on Rohini Nakshatra as discussed by Vyaasa. Rahu was approaching the Sun, and the Moon was turning towards Amaavaasya (new-Moon day).
Yadu dynasty destroyed
36 years after the Mahabharata war, the Yadu dynasty was destroyed.Lord Krishna predicted this happening in astrological terms. "Rahu has compressed Purnima on Chaturdasi day. This happened once before the Mahabharata war and will be happening again soon. This will lead to our destruction". By mentioning the forthcoming destruction of the Yadu dynastyLord Krishna was remembering Gandhari’s curse on the Yadu dynasty.
Strange phenomenon
Astrologically a strange phenomenon occurred during the Mahabharata war. The lunar cycle (paksha – normally is 15 days) sometimes happens in fourteen days. But during the time of the Mahabharata war- a rare thing happened – the paksha got compressed to 13 days. (May be 13 is an inauspicious number). This aspect has been discussed in the Bhishma parva – 3rd Adhyaaya. Guru and Shani are in Vaishaaka, Moon and the Sun entered in the same house one after the other making amaavaasya on the Trayodasi day itself. This peculiar condensation of the tithis into thirteen from fifteen is a rare phenomenon. Vyaasa in the Mahabharata discussed this subject and this was inevitably followed by mass destruction due to the war. This incident provided a direct means to establish the precise date of Mahabharata war. According to Julian calendar this type of planetary collusion occurred definitely in 3076 BC in November. Vyaasa writes:
Caturdashiim panchadashiim Bhuuta puurvamca shoodhashiim Imaantu naabhi jaaneham Amaavaasyaam trayodashiim Chandra suurya bhougrastou Ekamevam trayodashiim AparvaNi grahaNe tou Prajaa sakshapaishyataH
"I have seen fourteen days a paksha, fifteen day completion or extension to sixteenth day also. This amaavaasya falling on the thirteenth day itself, I have never seen before"
Vyasa says that, Sun and Moon eclipses falling on the same month during the missing tithis is a rare phenomenon, resulting in large-scale disasters to people. One month before, in Margashira, during Purvaashhaada Nakshatra, the armies of the Pandavaas and Kouravaas assembled on the West and the East sides of the Hiranya River, respectively. The next day was Navaraatri and Durga Puja day. Duryodhana due to his demoniac nature was itching for war. That evening Duryodhana sent a word with Sakuni’s son Ulaka, "We have finished the prayer to the arms and everybody is ready – why there is further delay in starting the war?" The next day, Margashira Shudda Ekadashi day, in KRittika Nakshatra, the war started. Hence, the famous Bhagavad Gita teaching also started on that day. The war began at 6:30 am. The date according to Julian calendar was 22nd November, 3067B.C.
Other notable incidences that occurred:
Bhishma’s death: Maagha Shuddha AshTami day in Rohini Nakshtra in the afternoon that 58th day after the war started, Bhishma died. (This is the actual death – He actually fell in the war on the 10th day after the war started).
Lord Krishna’s Birth – He was born on 3112 B.C. on Friday at 11:40 PM.
Pandavaas Birth – Yudhisthira was born on August 31, 3114BC, Tuesday (Mangala Vaaram) Shudda Panchami JyeshhTaa Nakshatra – He was 696 days elder to Lord Krishna.
Bhima was 347 days younger to Yudhisthira. – Krishna Trayodashi, Makha Nakshatra, and Arjuna was 303 days younger to Bhima. Shukla Chaturdashi Soma Vaaram (Monday) Uttara PhalguNi Nakshtra.
When the Pandavaas came to Hastinaapura after the death of their father Pandu, it was 3091BC and Yudhisthira was 14years, 9 months and 11days old. When he was coronated by Bhishma as a prince, Yudhisthira was 20 years, 1 month and 26 days old. (November, 3094BC). They reached Varanasi in PalguNa Shuddha AshTami RohiNi Nakshtra.
Draupadi’s Swayamvaram – was in 3091BC, during the month of April – It took the Pandavaas 10 days to reach the house of wax. They then stayed there for a year. After the burning of the wax-house, they spent six months in the Shaalihotraa’s ashram and seven months in Ekachatra city. The second coronation and building of Indraprasta was in November 3091BC, seven months after the marriage. Rajasuuya yagna was performed after Arjuna’s dig vijaya tour – It took five years and six months for Arjuna. Subhadra’s marriage was in April 3084BC. Three months after that was Khadava vana dahanam.
Abhimanyu was born in 3083BC, February.
Unlucky 13 revisited
Kaliyuga started in 3105BC, October 13th, Amaavaasya Mangala (Tuesday) JyeshaTa Nakshatra – Kali was born. This was the most inauspicious day.
The next Pournima day (Full-moon day) was full eclipse of the Moon, October 1, 3104BC. That was the day, when the five grahaas along with moon were in DhanishTaa Nakshatra.
Dharmaraja’s Rajasuuya – Fifteen years before the Mahabharata war was the Rajasuuya yagna of Dharmaraja. That day was amaavaasya (new-moon day) JyeshTa Muula nakshtra .
Yudhisthira shakam started in 3082BC, October 26th . The gambling and the banishment of Pandavaas to forest was in November 3081BC, Margashira shukla-Trayodashi.
Vanavaasam was 12 years and living incognito was for one year (13 lunar years + 5 lunar months + 12 days or 13 solar years plus 18 days) – Bhishma calculated and declared that Duryodhana’s calculations were wrong.
AJNaata vaasam (living incognito) began in Margashira 3069BC. Arjuna was noticed on Margashira Krishna Navami, 3068BC.
The Great War began on 3067BC, Friday 22nd November, Margashira shudda ekadashi Nakshatra.
The war lasted for 18 days.
Dharmaraja ruled for only 36 years.
25 years later Yudhisthira shaka started. (Thursday October 26th).
Fifteen years after Dharmaraja’s rule started, Dhritaraashtra, Gandhaari, Vidura, Kunti and Sanjaya left for Vaanaprasta (forest living). That year itself Vidura performed praayopavesham.
Two years after that Dhrutaraashtra, Gandhaari and Kunti got caught in the forest fire and died.
Sanjaya was remaining
Friday 13th
Lord Krishna ended his lila on 3031BC, April 13th Friday. (Friday 13th is commonly regarded as being a day of inauspiciousness, a day to be extra careful)
Pandavaas Maahaa Prastaanam (retiring to the Himalayas) was in 3031BC, in November.
These are the dates that matched the Indian astrological description of the stars and the moon, and Julian calendar predictions.
There is so much self-consistency in all the events and the descriptions that it leaves one amazed. Based on these exact details Mahabharata must be five thousand years old (from today) as per the historical accounting.
This analysis is extremely precise and scientific, matching the astrological position of the Indian and the Julian Calendars.
The beauty and the scientific psychoanalysis of Bhagavad Gita stand out as a monumental contribution by the devotees of the Mahabharata period to mankind. Based on the above facts the historicity of Mahabharata cannot be questioned.
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Its all true its came from krishna and followed from that time itself .. if u see in first canto srimad bhagavatam " Under apperance of Maharaja Pariksit " Yuthitra Maharaja called all the Qualified Brahama and Sadhu and sages during the birth of Maharaja Pariksit offered the gift and ask about his future so they told very perfectly but now a days most of the people not Qualified that much just to make money they making the people fool nothing else.
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Rasika Govinda Das