Purana and bhagwatam are written by ansh avaatar of shrikrishna,ved vyasa.But in different puranas ,supremacy of that god is given ,on which puranas are named,like in shiv purana-lord shiva is termed as supreme above lord vishnu and in devi bhagvatam,devi maa is said as supreme.in srimad bhagwatam,lord vishnu is said as supreme personality of godhead and lord siva ,devi maa is described as demi gods below the supreme shri krishna.
I, personally,love lord krishna and strongly believe that only he is the supreme personality but this fact confuse me why different purana tell differenat things regarding same thing when all the puranas are written by the same person, vyasa deva.
Is the puranas tampered with in kalyuga or something else is the reason?
सीतानाथ समारम्भां रामानन्दार्य मध्यमाम्।
अस्मदाचार्य पर्यन्तां वन्दे श्रीगुरू परम्पराम् ।।
Vedā Vyasā Ji himself has said that there is no such Vedā, no such Upanīshad, no such Puranā, no such Samhitā and no such Smrìti which is not equipped with the name and glory of Śrī Rāma.
In the same row we will see the Glory of Śrī Rāma Nāam from Lomashā Samhitā;
I bow down to the gracious Śrī Rāma whom the gods Shivā, Indrā and others meditate upon day and night and by whose playful act the entire (world) is created.
Śrī Lomashā said;
Śrī Lomashā said: Once in Naimishãranyā, all the sages beginning with Shaûnakā, who were all very learned, asked with due respect, the seated Sutā the following.
O the destroyer of the darkness of ignorance! O the one with a brilliance of million Suns! The obstruse path of karma has been spoken by you earlier.
(A man) is born as a vipra by the virtue of his karma. He is a kshatriya by the virtue of his karma. By the virtue of his karma he is born as a vaishya. Also he becomes a shudra etc by the virtue of his karma.
This entire world, whatever it is, exists because of karma. How can the good and bad karma done in the previous lives be known?
O lord! O the benefactor of beings! Dispell this doubt of mine. O Suta! Speak the excellent story. You deign tell me everything.
मुनिरुवाच (Muni said)
The sage said: After hearing the words of the sages, Lord Lomaharshana Suta began to speak to them.
श्रीसूत उवाच (Śrī Sutā said)
Śrī Sutā said: Listen all sages, a supreme and astonishing secret, a conversation between Parvati and Shiva, which bestows the fourfold objectives (dharma, artha, kama and moksha).
Parvati spoke to Shankara, the god of gods, the teacher of the world, who was seated on the peak of mount Kailasha, for the benefit of the world.
O god of gods! O Mahadeva! O omniscient one! O supreme lord! Earlier I have heard several kinds of mantras and tantras from you. (I have heard about) all the dharmas of living beings and all their conducts and practices.
Now I desire to listen (to the answer of the following question). What is that secret tattva which is decidedly the most secret amongst the secrets, which is relevant to both this world as well as the afterworld, which is easily understood without much effort, which is well proven and which is accomplishable by ordinary men as well?
After hearing the words of Parvati, Virupaksha', the teacher of the world, Bharga, spoke to the daughter of the mountain, words which bestow success in all endeavours.
श्रीशिव उवाच (Śrī Shivā said)
Sri Shiva said: You are blessed indeed! You have done meritorious deeds because of which your mind is (asking) such (a question). You have asked for the benefit of the world hence I am answering you.
The name of Śrī Rāma is a secret supreme and auscipicious. It confers all kinds of successes and it is enunciated in all sacred texts.
O the one with a beautiful face! It is by the grace of his name that I am omniscient. There is nothing in the three worlds which is superior to the name of Śrī Rāma.
Wherever are present the two syllables of the word Rāma, there is Vaikuntha'. Those who worship other gods rejecting Rāma, they suffer torments in the hell named Kumbhï Pākam for a thousand divine years.
The one who, either knowingly or unknowingly, utters the two syallabled word Rāma, his sins committed in this birth as well as those committed in previous births are destroyed in a moment. The entire universe is situated in Rāma and Rāma is situated in everything.
Just like Kalpavriksha is supreme amongst trees, just like a Vaishnavā is supreme amongst all men, just like the Ganga is supreme amongst all rivers, just like the ocean is supreme amongst all water bodies, just like the Sun is supreme amongst all planets, just like the vrata of Ekadashi is supreme amongst all uratas, just like Prabhava is supreme amongst all the samvatsaras, just like Uttarayana is supreme amongst the two ayanas, just like Spring is supreme amongst all seasons, just like the month of Margashirsha is supreme amongst all months, just like the tithi ruled by Vishnu is supreme amongst all tithis, just like Sunday is supreme amongst all days, just like Pushya is supreme amongst all constellations, just like Harshana is supreme amongst all the yogas, just like the Brahm shines forth in all Vedas, just like Abhijit is supreme amongst all muhurats, just like Kashi is supreme amongst all cities, just like the Himalayas are supreme amongst all mountains, just like the cow is supreme amongst all animals, just like Gold is supreme amongst all metals, just like sanyaasa is supreme amongst all ashrams, just like Brahmana is supreme amongst all varnas, just like I am supreme amongst all servants and Vishnu is supreme amongst all lords, just like the letter A is supreme amongst all letters, just like the number one is supreme amongst all numbers, just like knowledge is supreme amongst all possessions, just like taking the refuge of Vishnu is supreme amongst all religious duties, just like the desire for bhakti of the Lord is supreme amongst all desires, just like Saayujya is supreme amongst all kinds of muktis similarly the word Rāma is supreme amongst all words.
Therefore, O beloved one! Perform devotion to Rāma by all efforts. There is no one except Rāma who takes (men) beyond the ocean of samsara.
O Goddess! Thus I have spoken the supremely astonishing secret to you. It should be kept hidden by you using all your efforts, through which you will certainly obtain prosperity. ॥
इति श्रीलोमशसंहितायां षष्ठिसाहस्रायां प्रथमोत्थाने श्रीशिवपार्वतीसंवादे परमरहस्यकथनो नाम प्रथमोऽध्यायः
Thus ends the first chapter entitled "The Enunciation of the Supreme Secret" in the conversation between Shiva and Parvati in the first part of Lomasha Samhita of sixty thousand verses.
सूत उवाच (Sutā said)
Suta said: After listening to the nectar of the fame of Rāma, the supreme secret, Parvati asked lord Nilalohita' again.
पार्वत्युवाच (Maa Parvati said)
Parvati said: O lord! I am convinced that the name of Śrī Rāma, the embodiment of all the sacred texts, that you have mentioned, is the supreme tattva.
After few chapters the supreme nectar i.e. Rasik lila of Śrī Rāma starts which can't be written here as all are not eligible for that nectar, so stopping here with a quote;
Stop The Mind's Drama Just Chant Hare Rāma
Hail to Priya Pritam Sarkar ❤️
Hail to Ānand Bhāshyakār Śrīmad Jagādgurü Ramānandacharya 🚩
Hare Krishna, Ankit Jaiswal prabhu.
Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. All glories to Guru-deva.
Vyasadeva wrote in all his books,Puranas, Bhagvatam etc, that all the devi's and devta's are fully aware of the supremecy of Lord Krishna. Krishna was the supreme. That was a fact in Vyasadeva's books. Nobody, even the devi's and deva's dare to doubt that. And all the devi's and devta's accepted Krishna also that he was the Original Supreme Personality Of Godhead. You can find this also in the nice comments of Gourab Saha prabhu.
However, when Shankara acarya came, who was an incarnation of Shiva, starts to preach the mayavadi-filosify,ordered By Krishna, he start to preach that Krishna was not the supreme. Personally Shankara acarya knew that Krishna was the Supreme. So, after the rising of the mayafadi's, they start to write books, that were not in line with the books of Vyasadeva. In these books the mayavadi's were preaching that Shiva was the supreme god. Seeing this , the followers of Laxmi came with their own book, declaring that Laxmi mata was the supreme.
So, by this you had a lot of books created in the moods. Those books telling that Krishna was not the Supreme, but Shiva (Shiva purana)was the supreme or Laxmi ( Laxmi purana)was the supreme and that these demigods could operate independly of Krishna, became degraded in the mood of passion and ignorance. And those books , declaring that Krishna ( Prabhupada's books) is the supreme were still in the mood of goodness, the same way Vyasadeva had wrote them.
I hope this could answer your question. Otherwise if any devotee has any doubts,please i am begging you to correct me.
Thank you so much.
"Shiva and Devi-maa,..... r not all-attractive."
This is not correct way to put it. Forgive me for saying it prabhu.
Lord Shiva is the greatest of Vaishnavas. Devi maa is also devotee. She is in charge of 1/3 of Lord Krishna's energy, the material world.
They are extremely attractive. How could they not be attactive? Lord Shiva is an expansion of Lord Vishnu.
newsletter from, New Goloka:
"On Febuary 18th we celebrated the auspicious occasion of Siva Ratri.
One might question why do we celebrate Siva Ratri in a Krishna Temple? Who is Lord Siva according to the previous acaryas in the Vaisnava line? In the Srimad -Bhagavatam and other Vedic literatures it is explained that Lord Siva is the greatest Vaisnava of Lord Krishna. He is always meditating on Lord Krishna with devotion. We honor Lord Siva in relationship to Lord Krishna. It is explained that he is not an ordinary jiva soul but is an expansion of Lord Vishnu."
We must not speak so lightly of Lord Shiva who is foremost Vaishnava.
Are we not all attracted to Prabhupada?
We are all attracted to devotees of the Lord, because of their relationship with Lord Krishna.
Please dont mis understand. I am not criticizing you Prabhu.
I have learnt my lessons not to criticize a devotee of the Lord. By the blessing of devotees here I kicked the bad habit.
Very detrimental to spiritual growth. One of the 10 Namaparada
I understand Prabhu, its just how you said it. Perhaps its the shortcomings of English language. Forgive me if I offended you.