why different shastras contradict on supremacy when it is written by the same writer ved vyasa.

सीतानाथ समारम्भां रामानन्दार्य मध्यमाम्।
अस्मदाचार्य पर्यन्तां वन्दे श्रीगुरू परम्पराम् ।।

Vedā Vyasā Ji himself has said that there is no such Vedā, no such Upanīshad, no such Puranā, no such Samhitā and no such Smrìti which is not equipped with the name and glory of Śrī Rāma.

In the same row we will see the Glory of Śrī Rāma Nāam from Lomashā Samhitā;

Chapter 1:~

शिवशकादयो देवा ध्यायन्ते यमहर्निशं ।

तं वंदे रामभद्रं यलीला रच्यतेोऽखिलं ॥ 1

I bow down to the gracious Śrī Rāma whom the gods Shivā, Indrā and others meditate upon day and night and by whose playful act the entire (world) is created.

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Śrī Lomashā said;

एकदा मुनयः सर्वे शौनकाद्या बहुश्रुताः ।

नैमिषे सूतमासीनं पप्रच्छुरिदमादरात् ॥ 2

Śrī Lomashā said: Once in Naimishãranyā, all the sages beginning with Shaûnakā, who were all very learned, asked with due respect, the seated Sutā the following.

अज्ञानध्वांतविघ्नेश कोटिसूर्यसमप्रभः।

कथिता भवता पूर्व कर्मणां गहना गतिः ॥ 3

O the destroyer of the darkness of ignorance! O the one with a brilliance of million Suns! The obstruse path of karma has been spoken by you earlier.

कर्मणा जायते विप्रः कर्मणा क्षत्रियश्च सः ।

कर्मणा जायते वैश्यः तथा शूद्रादि कर्मणा ॥ 4

(A man) is born as a vipra by the virtue of his karma. He is a kshatriya by the virtue of his karma. By the virtue of his karma he is born as a vaishya. Also he becomes a shudra etc by the virtue of his karma.

कर्मणा सर्वमेतद्धि स्थितं यत्कर्मणा जगत्।

पूर्वजन्मकृतं कर्म कथं ज्ञेयं शुभाशुभम् ॥ 5

This entire world, whatever it is, exists because of karma. How can the good and bad karma done in the previous lives be known?

एतन्मे संशयं छिन्धि भगवन्भूतभावन ।

सुताख्याहि कथां श्रेष्ठां सर्व मे वक्तुमर्हसि ॥ 6

O lord! O the benefactor of beings! Dispell this doubt of mine. O Suta! Speak the excellent story. You deign tell me everything.

मुनिरुवाच (Muni said)

ऋषीणां वाक्यमाकर्ण्य जगाद लोमहर्षणः।

तान्प्रति भगवान्सूतः प्रवकुमुपचक्रमे ॥ 7

The sage said: After hearing the words of the sages, Lord Lomaharshana Suta began to speak to them.

श्रीसूत उवाच (Śrī Sutā said)

शृणुध्वं ऋषयः सर्वे रहस्यं परमद्भुतम्।

पार्वतीशिवसंवादं चतुर्वर्गप्रदायकम् ॥ 8

Śrī Sutā said: Listen all sages, a supreme and astonishing secret, a conversation between Parvati and Shiva, which bestows the fourfold objectives (dharma, artha, kama and moksha).

कैलासशिखरासीनं देवदेव जगह लोकानां ।

च हितार्थाय पार्वत्युवाच शंकरम् ।। 9 ।।

Parvati spoke to Shankara, the god of gods, the teacher of the world, who was seated on the peak of mount Kailasha, for the benefit of the world.

देवदेव महादेव सर्वज्ञ परमेश्वर त्वत्तः ।

श्रुतो मया पूर्व मंत्रतंत्राण्यनेकशः ॥ 10 ॥

सर्वधर्माणि जीवानां व्यवहाराणि यानि च।

O god of gods! O Mahadeva! O omniscient one! O supreme lord! Earlier I have heard several kinds of mantras and tantras from you. (I have heard about) all the dharmas of living beings and all their conducts and practices.

अधुना श्रोतुमिच्छामि किं तत्त्वं कृतनिश्चितम् ॥ 11

गुह्याद्गुह्यतरं गुह्यमैहिकं परमं च यत् ।

सुगमं चाप्रयासेन सिद्धं साध्यं जनैरपि ॥ 12

Now I desire to listen (to the answer of the following question). What is that secret tattva which is decidedly the most secret amongst the secrets, which is relevant to both this world as well as the afterworld, which is easily understood without much effort, which is well proven and which is accomplishable by ordinary men as well?

पार्वतीवचनं श्रुत्वा विरूपाक्षी जगद्गुरुः ।

प्रोवाच शैलजा भर्गो वचनं सर्वसिद्धिदं ॥ 13

After hearing the words of Parvati, Virupaksha', the teacher of the world, Bharga, spoke to the daughter of the mountain, words which bestow success in all endeavours.

श्रीशिव उवाच (Śrī Shivā said)

धन्यासि कृतपुण्यासि यस्माते मतिरीदृशी।

पृढं लोकोपकाराय तस्मात्त्वां प्रवदाम्यहम् ॥ 14

Sri Shiva said: You are blessed indeed! You have done meritorious deeds because of which your mind is (asking) such (a question). You have asked for the benefit of the world hence I am answering you.

रहस्यं परमं पुण्यं सर्वसिद्धिप्रदायकम् ।

रामनामपरं तत्त्वं सर्वशास्त्रेषु च स्फुटं ।। 15

The name of Śrī Rāma is a secret supreme and auscipicious. It confers all kinds of successes and it is enunciated in all sacred texts.

तस्य नामप्रभावेण सर्वज्ञोऽहं वरानने।

रामनामात्परतरं नास्ति किंचिज्जगत्त्रये ॥ 16

O the one with a beautiful face! It is by the grace of his name that I am omniscient. There is nothing in the three worlds which is superior to the name of Śrī Rāma.

रामेति यक्षरं यत्र तत्र वैकुंठमुच्यते ।

रामं देवं परित्यज्य योऽन्यदेवमुपासते ॥ 17

दिव्यवर्णसहस्राणि कुम्भिपाके प्रपच्यते।

Wherever are present the two syllables of the word Rāma, there is Vaikuntha'. Those who worship other gods rejecting Rāma, they suffer torments in the hell named Kumbhï Pākam for a thousand divine years.

अज्ञानाद्यदि वा ज्ञानाद्रामेति व्यक्षरं वदेत् ॥ 18

जन्मजन्मान्तरकृतं पापं नाशयति क्षणात् ।

स्थितं रामे जगत्सर्वं रामः सर्वेषु संस्थितः ॥ 19

The one who, either knowingly or unknowingly, utters the two syallabled word Rāma, his sins committed in this birth as well as those committed in previous births are destroyed in a moment. The entire universe is situated in Rāma and Rāma is situated in everything.

वृक्षेषु कल्पवृक्षच वथा नृषु च वैष्णवः।

नदीषु च यथा गंगा सागरेषु पयोदधिः ॥ 20

ग्रहेषु भगवान्सूर्यो व्रतेष्वैकादशी यथा ।

संवत्सरेषु प्रभवः स्वयने चोत्तरायणः ॥ 21

यथर्तुषु वसंताख्यो मासेषु मार्गशीर्षकः ।

तिथिषु विष्णुदैवत्यो यथा वारेषु भास्करः ॥ 22

नक्षत्रेषु यथा पुष्यो योगेषु हर्षणाहयः बभौ ।

यथा श्रुतौ ब्राह्मः मुहूर्तेषु यथाभिजित् ॥ 23

पुरीषु च यथा काशी पर्वतेषु हिमाचलः ।

यथा गावः पशुष्वैवं यथा धातुषु कांचनम् ॥ 24

आश्रमेषु च सन्यासो यथा वर्णेषु भूसुरः ।

यथा दासेष्वहं भद्रे देवेषु गरुडध्वजः ॥ 25

अक्षरेषु यथाकारशकिष्वैकः प्रकीर्तितः।

अर्थेषु च यथा विद्या धर्मेषु शरणं हरेः ॥ 26

भगवद्भक्तिः कामेषु सायुज्यं चैव मुक्तिषु।

तथा सर्वेषु शब्देषु रामशब्दो विधीयते ॥ 27

Just like Kalpavriksha is supreme amongst trees, just like a Vaishnavā is supreme amongst all men, just like the Ganga is supreme amongst all rivers, just like the ocean is supreme amongst all water bodies, just like the Sun is supreme amongst all planets, just like the vrata of Ekadashi is supreme amongst all uratas, just like Prabhava is supreme amongst all the samvatsaras, just like Uttarayana is supreme amongst the two ayanas, just like Spring is supreme amongst all seasons, just like the month of Margashirsha is supreme amongst all months, just like the tithi ruled by Vishnu is supreme amongst all tithis, just like Sunday is supreme amongst all days, just like Pushya is supreme amongst all constellations, just like Harshana is supreme amongst all the yogas, just like the Brahm shines forth in all Vedas, just like Abhijit is supreme amongst all muhurats, just like Kashi is supreme amongst all cities, just like the Himalayas are supreme amongst all mountains, just like the cow is supreme amongst all animals, just like Gold is supreme amongst all metals, just like sanyaasa is supreme amongst all ashrams, just like Brahmana is supreme amongst all varnas, just like I am supreme amongst all servants and Vishnu is supreme amongst all lords, just like the letter A is supreme amongst all letters, just like the number one is supreme amongst all numbers, just like knowledge is supreme amongst all possessions, just like taking the refuge of Vishnu is supreme amongst all religious duties, just like the desire for bhakti of the Lord is supreme amongst all desires, just like Saayujya is supreme amongst all kinds of muktis similarly the word Rāma is supreme amongst all words.

तस्मात्सर्वप्रयत्नेन रामभक्तिं कुरु प्रिये ।

विहाय रामं सर्वज्ञं नान्यः संसारतारकः॥ 28

Therefore, O beloved one! Perform devotion to Rāma by all efforts. There is no one except Rāma who takes (men) beyond the ocean of samsara.

इति ते कथितं देवि रहस्यं परमाद्भुतम्।

गोपनीयं प्रयलेन येन श्रेयो वाप्स्यसि ॥ 29

O Goddess! Thus I have spoken the supremely astonishing secret to you. It should be kept hidden by you using all your efforts, through which you will certainly obtain prosperity. ॥

इति श्रीलोमशसंहितायां षष्ठिसाहस्रायां प्रथमोत्थाने श्रीशिवपार्वतीसंवादे परमरहस्यकथनो नाम प्रथमोऽध्यायः

Thus ends the first chapter entitled "The Enunciation of the Supreme Secret" in the conversation between Shiva and Parvati in the first part of Lomasha Samhita of sixty thousand verses.

Chapter 2

सूत उवाच (Sutā said)

श्रुत्वा रहस्यं परमं रामनामयशोऽमृतं ।

पुनः पृच्छति सा देवं पार्वती नीललोहितं ॥ 1

Suta said: After listening to the nectar of the fame of Rāma, the supreme secret, Parvati asked lord Nilalohita' again.

पार्वत्युवाच (Maa Parvati said)

यत्त्वया कथितं देव सर्वशास्त्रौघवियहं।

श्रीरामपरमं तत्त्वमित्यहं कृतनिश्चितं ॥ 1

Parvati said: O lord! I am convinced that the name of Śrī Rāma, the embodiment of all the sacred texts, that you have mentioned, is the supreme tattva.

After few chapters the supreme nectar i.e. Rasik lila of Śrī Rāma starts which can't be written here as all are not eligible for that nectar, so stopping here with a quote;

Stop The Mind's Drama Just Chant Hare Rāma

Hail to Priya Pritam Sarkar ❤️

Hail to Ānand Bhāshyakār Śrīmad Jagādgurü Ramānandacharya 🚩

Hare Krishna, Ankit Jaiswal prabhu.

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. All glories to Guru-deva.

Vyasadeva wrote in all his books,Puranas, Bhagvatam etc, that all the devi's and devta's are fully aware of the supremecy of Lord Krishna. Krishna was the supreme. That was a fact in Vyasadeva's books. Nobody, even the devi's and deva's dare to doubt that. And all the devi's and devta's accepted Krishna also that he was the Original Supreme Personality Of Godhead. You can find this also in the nice comments of Gourab Saha prabhu.

However, when Shankara acarya came, who was an incarnation of Shiva, starts to preach the mayavadi-filosify,ordered By Krishna, he start to preach that Krishna was not the supreme. Personally Shankara acarya knew that Krishna was the Supreme. So, after the rising of the mayafadi's, they start to write books, that were not in line with the books of Vyasadeva. In these books the mayavadi's were preaching that Shiva was the supreme god. Seeing this , the followers of Laxmi came with their own book, declaring that Laxmi mata was the supreme.

So, by this you had a lot of books created in the moods. Those books telling that Krishna was not the Supreme, but Shiva (Shiva purana)was the supreme or Laxmi ( Laxmi purana)was the supreme and that these demigods could operate independly of Krishna, became degraded in the mood of passion and ignorance. And those books , declaring that Krishna ( Prabhupada's books) is the supreme were still in the mood of goodness, the same way Vyasadeva had wrote them.

I hope this could answer your question. Otherwise if any devotee has any doubts,please i am begging you to correct me.

Thank you so much.

Radha Radha.

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Radha Sakhi December 22, 2022 at 12:41pm

सीतानाथ समारम्भां रामानन्दार्य मध्यमाम्।
अस्मदाचार्य पर्यन्तां वन्दे श्रीगुरू परम्पराम् ।।

Vedā Vyasā Ji himself has said that there is no such Vedā, no such Upanīshad, no such Puranā, no such Samhitā and no such Smrìti which is not equipped with the name and glory of Śrī Rāma.

In the same row we will see the Glory of Śrī Rāma Nāam from Lomashā Samhitā;

Chapter 1:~

शिवशकादयो देवा ध्यायन्ते यमहर्निशं ।

तं वंदे रामभद्रं यलीला रच्यतेोऽखिलं ॥ 1

I bow down to the gracious Śrī Rāma whom the gods Shivā, Indrā and others meditate upon day and night and by whose playful act the entire (world) is created.

Śrī Lomashā said;

एकदा मुनयः सर्वे शौनकाद्या बहुश्रुताः ।

नैमिषे सूतमासीनं पप्रच्छुरिदमादरात् ॥ 2

Śrī Lomashā said: Once in Naimishãranyā, all the sages beginning with Shaûnakā, who were all very learned, asked with due respect, the seated Sutā the following.

अज्ञानध्वांतविघ्नेश कोटिसूर्यसमप्रभः।

कथिता भवता पूर्व कर्मणां गहना गतिः ॥ 3

O the destroyer of the darkness of ignorance! O the one with a brilliance of million Suns! The obstruse path of karma has been spoken by you earlier.

कर्मणा जायते विप्रः कर्मणा क्षत्रियश्च सः ।

कर्मणा जायते वैश्यः तथा शूद्रादि कर्मणा ॥ 4

(A man) is born as a vipra by the virtue of his karma. He is a kshatriya by the virtue of his karma. By the virtue of his karma he is born as a vaishya. Also he becomes a shudra etc by the virtue of his karma.

कर्मणा सर्वमेतद्धि स्थितं यत्कर्मणा जगत्।

पूर्वजन्मकृतं कर्म कथं ज्ञेयं शुभाशुभम् ॥ 5

This entire world, whatever it is, exists because of karma. How can the good and bad karma done in the previous lives be known?

एतन्मे संशयं छिन्धि भगवन्भूतभावन ।

सुताख्याहि कथां श्रेष्ठां सर्व मे वक्तुमर्हसि ॥ 6

O lord! O the benefactor of beings! Dispell this doubt of mine. O Suta! Speak the excellent story. You deign tell me everything.

मुनिरुवाच (Muni said)

ऋषीणां वाक्यमाकर्ण्य जगाद लोमहर्षणः।

तान्प्रति भगवान्सूतः प्रवकुमुपचक्रमे ॥ 7

The sage said: After hearing the words of the sages, Lord Lomaharshana Suta began to speak to them.

श्रीसूत उवाच (Śrī Sutā said)

शृणुध्वं ऋषयः सर्वे रहस्यं परमद्भुतम्।

पार्वतीशिवसंवादं चतुर्वर्गप्रदायकम् ॥ 8

Śrī Sutā said: Listen all sages, a supreme and astonishing secret, a conversation between Parvati and Shiva, which bestows the fourfold objectives (dharma, artha, kama and moksha).

कैलासशिखरासीनं देवदेव जगह लोकानां ।

च हितार्थाय पार्वत्युवाच शंकरम् ।। 9 ।।

Parvati spoke to Shankara, the god of gods, the teacher of the world, who was seated on the peak of mount Kailasha, for the benefit of the world.

देवदेव महादेव सर्वज्ञ परमेश्वर त्वत्तः ।

श्रुतो मया पूर्व मंत्रतंत्राण्यनेकशः ॥ 10 ॥

सर्वधर्माणि जीवानां व्यवहाराणि यानि च।

O god of gods! O Mahadeva! O omniscient one! O supreme lord! Earlier I have heard several kinds of mantras and tantras from you. (I have heard about) all the dharmas of living beings and all their conducts and practices.

अधुना श्रोतुमिच्छामि किं तत्त्वं कृतनिश्चितम् ॥ 11

गुह्याद्गुह्यतरं गुह्यमैहिकं परमं च यत् ।

सुगमं चाप्रयासेन सिद्धं साध्यं जनैरपि ॥ 12

Now I desire to listen (to the answer of the following question). What is that secret tattva which is decidedly the most secret amongst the secrets, which is relevant to both this world as well as the afterworld, which is easily understood without much effort, which is well proven and which is accomplishable by ordinary men as well?

पार्वतीवचनं श्रुत्वा विरूपाक्षी जगद्गुरुः ।

प्रोवाच शैलजा भर्गो वचनं सर्वसिद्धिदं ॥ 13

After hearing the words of Parvati, Virupaksha', the teacher of the world, Bharga, spoke to the daughter of the mountain, words which bestow success in all endeavours.

श्रीशिव उवाच (Śrī Shivā said)

धन्यासि कृतपुण्यासि यस्माते मतिरीदृशी।

पृढं लोकोपकाराय तस्मात्त्वां प्रवदाम्यहम् ॥ 14

Sri Shiva said: You are blessed indeed! You have done meritorious deeds because of which your mind is (asking) such (a question). You have asked for the benefit of the world hence I am answering you.

रहस्यं परमं पुण्यं सर्वसिद्धिप्रदायकम् ।

रामनामपरं तत्त्वं सर्वशास्त्रेषु च स्फुटं ।। 15

The name of Śrī Rāma is a secret supreme and auscipicious. It confers all kinds of successes and it is enunciated in all sacred texts.

तस्य नामप्रभावेण सर्वज्ञोऽहं वरानने।

रामनामात्परतरं नास्ति किंचिज्जगत्त्रये ॥ 16

O the one with a beautiful face! It is by the grace of his name that I am omniscient. There is nothing in the three worlds which is superior to the name of Śrī Rāma.

रामेति यक्षरं यत्र तत्र वैकुंठमुच्यते ।

रामं देवं परित्यज्य योऽन्यदेवमुपासते ॥ 17

दिव्यवर्णसहस्राणि कुम्भिपाके प्रपच्यते।

Wherever are present the two syllables of the word Rāma, there is Vaikuntha'. Those who worship other gods rejecting Rāma, they suffer torments in the hell named Kumbhï Pākam for a thousand divine years.

अज्ञानाद्यदि वा ज्ञानाद्रामेति व्यक्षरं वदेत् ॥ 18

जन्मजन्मान्तरकृतं पापं नाशयति क्षणात् ।

स्थितं रामे जगत्सर्वं रामः सर्वेषु संस्थितः ॥ 19

The one who, either knowingly or unknowingly, utters the two syallabled word Rāma, his sins committed in this birth as well as those committed in previous births are destroyed in a moment. The entire universe is situated in Rāma and Rāma is situated in everything.

वृक्षेषु कल्पवृक्षच वथा नृषु च वैष्णवः।

नदीषु च यथा गंगा सागरेषु पयोदधिः ॥ 20

ग्रहेषु भगवान्सूर्यो व्रतेष्वैकादशी यथा ।

संवत्सरेषु प्रभवः स्वयने चोत्तरायणः ॥ 21

यथर्तुषु वसंताख्यो मासेषु मार्गशीर्षकः ।

तिथिषु विष्णुदैवत्यो यथा वारेषु भास्करः ॥ 22

नक्षत्रेषु यथा पुष्यो योगेषु हर्षणाहयः बभौ ।

यथा श्रुतौ ब्राह्मः मुहूर्तेषु यथाभिजित् ॥ 23

पुरीषु च यथा काशी पर्वतेषु हिमाचलः ।

यथा गावः पशुष्वैवं यथा धातुषु कांचनम् ॥ 24

आश्रमेषु च सन्यासो यथा वर्णेषु भूसुरः ।

यथा दासेष्वहं भद्रे देवेषु गरुडध्वजः ॥ 25

अक्षरेषु यथाकारशकिष्वैकः प्रकीर्तितः।

अर्थेषु च यथा विद्या धर्मेषु शरणं हरेः ॥ 26

भगवद्भक्तिः कामेषु सायुज्यं चैव मुक्तिषु।

तथा सर्वेषु शब्देषु रामशब्दो विधीयते ॥ 27

Just like Kalpavriksha is supreme amongst trees, just like a Vaishnavā is supreme amongst all men, just like the Ganga is supreme amongst all rivers, just like the ocean is supreme amongst all water bodies, just like the Sun is supreme amongst all planets, just like the vrata of Ekadashi is supreme amongst all uratas, just like Prabhava is supreme amongst all the samvatsaras, just like Uttarayana is supreme amongst the two ayanas, just like Spring is supreme amongst all seasons, just like the month of Margashirsha is supreme amongst all months, just like the tithi ruled by Vishnu is supreme amongst all tithis, just like Sunday is supreme amongst all days, just like Pushya is supreme amongst all constellations, just like Harshana is supreme amongst all the yogas, just like the Brahm shines forth in all Vedas, just like Abhijit is supreme amongst all muhurats, just like Kashi is supreme amongst all cities, just like the Himalayas are supreme amongst all mountains, just like the cow is supreme amongst all animals, just like Gold is supreme amongst all metals, just like sanyaasa is supreme amongst all ashrams, just like Brahmana is supreme amongst all varnas, just like I am supreme amongst all servants and Vishnu is supreme amongst all lords, just like the letter A is supreme amongst all letters, just like the number one is supreme amongst all numbers, just like knowledge is supreme amongst all possessions, just like taking the refuge of Vishnu is supreme amongst all religious duties, just like the desire for bhakti of the Lord is supreme amongst all desires, just like Saayujya is supreme amongst all kinds of muktis similarly the word Rāma is supreme amongst all words.

तस्मात्सर्वप्रयत्नेन रामभक्तिं कुरु प्रिये ।

विहाय रामं सर्वज्ञं नान्यः संसारतारकः॥ 28

Therefore, O beloved one! Perform devotion to Rāma by all efforts. There is no one except Rāma who takes (men) beyond the ocean of samsara.

इति ते कथितं देवि रहस्यं परमाद्भुतम्।

गोपनीयं प्रयलेन येन श्रेयो वाप्स्यसि ॥ 29

O Goddess! Thus I have spoken the supremely astonishing secret to you. It should be kept hidden by you using all your efforts, through which you will certainly obtain prosperity. ॥

इति श्रीलोमशसंहितायां षष्ठिसाहस्रायां प्रथमोत्थाने श्रीशिवपार्वतीसंवादे परमरहस्यकथनो नाम प्रथमोऽध्यायः

Thus ends the first chapter entitled "The Enunciation of the Supreme Secret" in the conversation between Shiva and Parvati in the first part of Lomasha Samhita of sixty thousand verses.

Chapter 2

सूत उवाच (Sutā said)

श्रुत्वा रहस्यं परमं रामनामयशोऽमृतं ।

पुनः पृच्छति सा देवं पार्वती नीललोहितं ॥ 1

Suta said: After listening to the nectar of the fame of Rāma, the supreme secret, Parvati asked lord Nilalohita' again.

पार्वत्युवाच (Maa Parvati said)

यत्त्वया कथितं देव सर्वशास्त्रौघवियहं।

श्रीरामपरमं तत्त्वमित्यहं कृतनिश्चितं ॥ 1

Parvati said: O lord! I am convinced that the name of Śrī Rāma, the embodiment of all the sacred texts, that you have mentioned, is the supreme tattva.

After few chapters the supreme nectar i.e. Rasik lila of Śrī Rāma starts which can't be written here as all are not eligible for that nectar, so stopping here with a quote;

Stop The Mind's Drama Just Chant Hare Rāma

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Caitanya Mahaprabhu (das)LOK. February 22, 2011 at 6:19am

Hare Krishna, Ankit Jaiswal prabhu.

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. All glories to Guru-deva.

Vyasadeva wrote in all his books,Puranas, Bhagvatam etc, that all the devi's and devta's are fully aware of the supremecy of Lord Krishna. Krishna was the supreme. That was a fact in Vyasadeva's books. Nobody, even the devi's and deva's dare to doubt that. And all the devi's and devta's accepted Krishna also that he was the Original Supreme Personality Of Godhead. You can find this also in the nice comments of Gourab Saha prabhu.

However, when Shankara acarya came, who was an incarnation of Shiva, starts to preach the mayavadi-filosify,ordered By Krishna, he start to preach that Krishna was not the supreme. Personally Shankara acarya knew that Krishna was the Supreme. So, after the rising of the mayafadi's, they start to write books, that were not in line with the books of Vyasadeva. In these books the mayavadi's were preaching that Shiva was the supreme god. Seeing this , the followers of Laxmi came with their own book, declaring that Laxmi mata was the supreme.

So, by this you had a lot of books created in the moods. Those books telling that Krishna was not the Supreme, but Shiva (Shiva purana)was the supreme or Laxmi ( Laxmi purana)was the supreme and that these demigods could operate independly of Krishna, became degraded in the mood of passion and ignorance. And those books , declaring that Krishna ( Prabhupada's books) is the supreme were still in the mood of goodness, the same way Vyasadeva had wrote them.

I hope this could answer your question. Otherwise if any devotee has any doubts,please i am begging you to correct me.

Thank you so much.

Radha Radha.
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Gourab Saha February 14, 2011 at 9:30pm

Hare Krishna, prabhuji, I hope Bhagavat Gita is the perfect one where Krishna says, I'm the source of everything, everything emanates from me.I'm the cause of all causes. He also says, whatever is glorious, beautiful or opulent , know that it is born of a spark of my splendour. So, there must be no doubting in His words. So this, Shiva, Durga, they get their majesty from Krishna. They have got no independent existence beyond Krishna. When Krishna plyed flute during Rasa dance, Shiva, Devi maa, Nrayan, Lakashmi, all got attracted by the music and wanted to take part in the dance. This suggests the supremacy of Krishna and His infinite opulences which form the source of both material and spiritual opulences. Ultimately, Krishna is the personality of Godhead, since 1) He is full of six opulences 2) He is all-attractive. He attracts male, female, animals, birds and everything in the creation. Without the property of all-attraction, one can't be God. The very name 'Krishna' means all-attractive. And God and God alone can be all-attractive. Lord Shiva , Devi maa, they only work under the direction of Krishna. They r not sovereign. But those belonging to Shiva cult and the Devi cult are not aware of this fact. Consequently, they take them to be Godheads. Shiva and Devi-maa, and other demigods, r not all-attractive. They can't be considered as Godheads.
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  Shravn Prabhu > Gourab Saha February 16, 2011 at 1:13pm
  
  "Shiva and Devi-maa,..... r not all-attractive."
  
  This is not correct way to put it. Forgive me for saying it prabhu.
  
  Lord Shiva is the greatest of Vaishnavas. Devi maa is also devotee. She is in charge of 1/3 of Lord Krishna's energy, the material world.
  
  They are extremely attractive. How could they not be attactive? Lord Shiva is an expansion of Lord Vishnu.
  
  newsletter from, New Goloka:
  
  "On Febuary 18th we celebrated the auspicious occasion of Siva Ratri.
  
  One might question why do we celebrate Siva Ratri in a Krishna Temple? Who is Lord Siva according to the previous acaryas in the Vaisnava line? In the Srimad -Bhagavatam and other Vedic literatures it is explained that Lord Siva is the greatest Vaisnava of Lord Krishna. He is always meditating on Lord Krishna with devotion. We honor Lord Siva in relationship to Lord Krishna. It is explained that he is not an ordinary jiva soul but is an expansion of Lord Vishnu."
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    Gourab Saha > Shravn Prabhu February 16, 2011 at 1:33pm
    
    Does Shiva attract u with His beauty like Krishna, prabhuji?? Krishna has 'sriyah'.
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      Shravn Prabhu > Gourab Saha February 16, 2011 at 2:44pm
      
      We must not speak so lightly of Lord Shiva who is foremost Vaishnava.
      
      Are we not all attracted to Prabhupada?
      
      We are all attracted to devotees of the Lord, because of their relationship with Lord Krishna.
      
      Please dont mis understand. I am not criticizing you Prabhu.
      
      I have learnt my lessons not to criticize a devotee of the Lord. By the blessing of devotees here I kicked the bad habit.
      
      Very detrimental to spiritual growth. One of the 10 Namaparada
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        Gourab Saha > Shravn Prabhu February 16, 2011 at 6:51pm
        
        I'm not slighting Shiva Prabhuji, I hv very clearly mentioned 'Shiva is no doubt a great devotee of Lord Rama, hence the greatest of Vaishnavas' and that he is a 'great well-wisher of the devotees of Shri Hari'. But when the question comes about the Supreme-personality of Godhead, it is Krishna who is established. Lord Hanuman is the greatest servitor and the greatest devotee, but we all know Lord Ram as the Supreme personality of Godhead.
        
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        Shravn Prabhu > Gourab Saha February 17, 2011 at 2:18am
        
        I understand Prabhu, its just how you said it. Perhaps its the shortcomings of English language. Forgive me if I offended you.
        
        Hare Krishna
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      Gourab Saha > Gourab Saha February 16, 2011 at 1:39pm
      
      Shiva is no doubt a great devotee of Lord Rama, hence 'the greatest of Vaishnavas', but His position can't be superior to or parallel to Krishna, and it is clearly mentioned in Padma-purana(though I can't remember the exact Sanskrit verse). Whatever power or opulence He has, is derived from Krishna. Shiva is great well-wisher of the devotees of Shri Hari, u can put it in that way. Shiva is an expansion of Krishna, which means His source or cause of His existence is Krishna. Krishna never expands from anything. He is the origin of all causes, expansions and incarnations, hence Krishna is the personality of Godhead.

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