i heard that nirakar brahman is subordinate in krishna. also what is brahmajyoti ? i only know it is krishna effulgence but i have doubt that maybe brahmajyoti is nirakar brahman which is subordinate in krishna...sorry for bad english !!JAY JAY SHRI RADHE GOVINDA !!
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There are 3 stages of God Realisation - Brahman, Paramatma and Supreme Lord/ Bhagawan. Brahman feature is the nirakar / formless feature of the lord , which says that lord has no form. Paramatma feature is the all pervading feature of the lord - which means the Supreme Lord is present as Supersoul in each and every living and non living entity in the material world. Supreme Lord feature is the lord as He is - with form, with characteristics of sat, cit and anand. He is a personality - as mentioned in the beginning of Brahma Samhita - Isvarah Paramah Krsnah Sacchidanand Vigraha, Anadiradir Govinda Sarva Karana Karanam.
The effulgence of this Supreme Lord is the Brahmajyoti. Therefore, people who pray to the Brahman merge into this effulgence after death. They are not able to see the person beyond the effulgence, which is the Supreme Lord. Thats why it is said that God is both nirakar as well as sakaar - He is both formless as well as has form. Depending on the desire of the jivatma, he can attain either the Brahman feature of the lord or the Bhagawan feature of the lord.
The example is given of a camera or a vision of the same thing from different angles - suppose a helicopter view of a house is a very tiny small object, or even no vision at all - just a dot on earth, whereas as one comes closer, one can see the shape of the house, gradually, the colours on the walls, texture and other details are visible depending on how good the camera is or how close the person is to the object of the vision. Same way, bird's eye view is the Brahman feature, which is only sat, then clearer vision is the paramatma feature, whihc is sat and cit, but the clear vision is the Bhagawan feature, whihc is the sat, cit and anand feature of the lord.
I hope I have been able to explain.
Pls feel free to ask if you have any doubts.
Haribol,
Your servant,
Rashmi
Manohar Patil > Radha Rasamayi DDSeptember 3, 2015 at 4:37pm
thanks rashmi mataji !! i understood what is nirakar and sakar ! but mataji who comes first i mean from nirakar/brahman sakar/parbrahma appeared or from sakar nirakar appeared.
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hare krishna!!
Hare Krsna Prabhuji,
PAMHO.
There are 3 stages of God Realisation - Brahman, Paramatma and Supreme Lord/ Bhagawan. Brahman feature is the nirakar / formless feature of the lord , which says that lord has no form. Paramatma feature is the all pervading feature of the lord - which means the Supreme Lord is present as Supersoul in each and every living and non living entity in the material world. Supreme Lord feature is the lord as He is - with form, with characteristics of sat, cit and anand. He is a personality - as mentioned in the beginning of Brahma Samhita - Isvarah Paramah Krsnah Sacchidanand Vigraha, Anadiradir Govinda Sarva Karana Karanam.
The effulgence of this Supreme Lord is the Brahmajyoti. Therefore, people who pray to the Brahman merge into this effulgence after death. They are not able to see the person beyond the effulgence, which is the Supreme Lord. Thats why it is said that God is both nirakar as well as sakaar - He is both formless as well as has form. Depending on the desire of the jivatma, he can attain either the Brahman feature of the lord or the Bhagawan feature of the lord.
The example is given of a camera or a vision of the same thing from different angles - suppose a helicopter view of a house is a very tiny small object, or even no vision at all - just a dot on earth, whereas as one comes closer, one can see the shape of the house, gradually, the colours on the walls, texture and other details are visible depending on how good the camera is or how close the person is to the object of the vision. Same way, bird's eye view is the Brahman feature, which is only sat, then clearer vision is the paramatma feature, whihc is sat and cit, but the clear vision is the Bhagawan feature, whihc is the sat, cit and anand feature of the lord.
I hope I have been able to explain.
Pls feel free to ask if you have any doubts.
Haribol,
Your servant,
Rashmi
thanks rashmi mataji !! i understood what is nirakar and sakar ! but mataji who comes first i mean from nirakar/brahman sakar/parbrahma appeared or from sakar nirakar appeared.
What came first - prabhuji The Supreme Lord is eternal, so is His effulgence. There is no before or after.