Who is Master Bhagavan ?

Philosophical Search for the Absolute Truth is mentioned in Bhagavad Gita As It Is.

Brahmakumaris philosophy mentions that Bhagavan and Krishna are different.  There is concept of Master Bhagavan.  Bhagavan Uvacha is different and Krishna Uvacha is different.  Even in Bhagavad Gita As It Is, it is written Bhagavan Uvacha, not Krishna Uvacha.  Can devotees understand this and accordingly can they design the universal moral codes of conduct for ISKCON to manage 3 things effectively without any confusion to bring an eternal culture of thought process to differentiate between Grihastha and Brahmacharis and draw the line of difference without disturbing any varna or ashrama:

1.  Talk favourably for Krishna Consciousness.

2.  Act favourably for Krishna Consciousness.

3.  Behave favourably for Krishna Consciousness.

There is also a need to work on below processes in Kaliyuga so that devotees do not get confused in directions and go away from the process of Krishna Consciousness:

1.  Religion in Krishna Consciousness.

2.  Culture in Krishna Consciousness.

3.  Thought process in Krishna Consciousness.

4.  Philosophy in Krishna Consciousness.

5.  Mind in Krishna Consciousness.

6.  People around us, how they affect us in Krishna Consciousness.

7.  Health in Krishna Consciousness.

8.  Transformation in Krishna Consciousness.

9.  Care to be taken of in Krishna Consciousness.

10.  Most important to do things in Krishna Consciousness.

11.  Work or Profession is important or not important in Krishna Consciousness.

12.  Inertia or Dementia is very bad in Krishna Consciousness.

13.  Strive for your own liberation.  No donkey works for others.  Even a blind and lame can work for his own, why can't a devotee ?  Prabhupada said Work now, Samadhi later.  Are devotees serious about this ?

14. Can someone understand what is common sense before discussing Krishna Consciousness philosophy ?

15.  How do energies work in the universe and how do I protect myself ?

16.  Bhagavad Gita As It Is 4.34 purport mentions that one should not do any absurd inquiries when one goes to a spiritual master.  One devotee gave me an example that you should not ask the prices of vegetables when you go to a spiritual master.  Can initiations be restricted and instead first 4 regulative principles and the favourable culture for 4 regulative principles is discussed whatever the country, time, place and circumstances be ?

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  • Hare Krsna
    Vyasadeva has deliberately written Sri Bhagavan Uvaca so as to establish the authority of Krsna.
    Bhagavan is to be taken seriously, since it is possible that one may not take Krsna seriously.
  • Your problem solution is one & only one which is "Don't Read Commentary of any Sanskrit literature book".

    It's only the commentary which has created a huge unsatisfaction among seeking aspirants to know and understand any Sanskrit literature book !!

    So, better is just to read the Sanskrit Slokas of any literature plus its simple meaning but one thing keep in mind "don't go mistakenly on commentary of any Slokas otherwise different-2 types of question will arise & that would make anyone confused bcoz every author/writer write commentaries about any Sanskrit Slokas according to his/her knowledge.

    So, better is just to read the Slokas plus its simple meaning and understand accordingly with respect to what your good intellect and mind says instead believing only on commentaries. I would say "Don't bind yourself to commentaries."

    That's all, hope u get it !!!

  • SB 4.31.8

    maitreya uvāca
    iti pracetasāṁ pṛṣṭo
     bhagavān nārado muniḥ
    bhagavaty uttama-śloka
     āviṣṭātmābravīn nṛpān
    Sri Maitreya rishi said :
    My dear Vidura, being thus petitioned by the Pracetās, the supreme devotee Nārada, who is always absorbed in thoughts of the Lord, began to reply.

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    -Bhagavan is Narada as we can see.

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    SB 6.18.44

    iti sañcintya bhagavān
     mārīcaḥ kurunandana
    uvāca kiñcit kupita
     ātmānaṁ ca vigarhayan
    .
    Kaśyapa Muni, thinking in this way, became somewhat angry. Condemning himself, O Mahārāja Parīkṣit, descendant of Kuru, he spoke to Diti as follows.
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    We can see here that the son of Marīci, Kasyapa, is also bhagavan.
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    SB 10.41.19

    athāparāhne bhagavān
     kṛṣṇaḥ saṅkarṣaṇānvitaḥ
    mathurāṁ prāviśad gopair
     didṛkṣuḥ parivāritaḥ
    Lord Kṛṣṇa desired to see Mathurā, so toward evening He took Lord Balarāma and the cowherd boys with Him and entered the city.
    .
    Krishna is also bhagavan, like other powerful rishis and devas.
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    The Sanskrit word bhagavān means one who is full in six opulences:

     strength, fame, wealth, knowledge, beauty and renunciation.

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  • E-Counselor

    Hare Krsna.

    Beginners do not write advisories to GBC, telling them how to run ISKCON.

    Again I am telling you, the way to remove confusion of your mind is by chanting attentively the mahamantra, reading Gita daily and attending some congregational program in your locality. Association will solve a lot of things. If you chant mahamantra and eat only Krsna prasadam, all confusion will clear gradually.

    Pls follow the process prabhuji.

    Haribol.

  • E-Counselor

    Hare Krsna Prabhuji,

    PAMHO.

    Firstly, ISKCON does not follow Brahmakumaris. I saw your profile - in no of rounds chanted, you have mentioned NA!!! 

    What is the point of such deep analysis of what is going wrong in ISKCON or what needs to be corrected, if you are not on the path at all. What do you know what is happening - whether all the things you mentioned are already being taken care of or not? You are sitting on the fringes and giving your ideas on what you think needs to be done. Deep dive prabhuji, without that, there is no rasa.

    We have a single one size fits all mantra for all ailments - chanting. Chanting will clear all confusion. Everything you mentioned happens when one chants properly. And to those who dont chant properly, anyways the whole world is a mayajaal they are trying to grapple with.

    The choice is yours. 

    Haribol,

    Your servant,

    Radha Rasamayi DD

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