Hare Krishna Prabhuji / Mataji,
I am confused whether the soul experiences happiness or mind? What is the connection of happiness with mind and soul? Are feelings felt by soul or mind? What is the purpose of soul and mind? What is ahankar? Is ahankar a different entity or it is situated in mind? If atma is satchitanand then why we experience distress? Also what is Hriday (heart)? I am very much confused I am not understanding can you please help me out with this!
its the modes of material nature
Definition of happiness in mind is shaped by the association kept by the soul. Due to its false ego the soul associated with samsara (it may be anythig of interest of the soul) to enquire/explore independently rather than serving only the Lord and thus it got bewildered because samsara is too vast for the soul to come to any conclusion and thus it ended up in no satisfaction and keeps searching for satisfaction. In that process mind gets attached to so many wrong things and thus soul gets caught up in repeating mind's dictactions. Only solution to get back to our old state is to change the association now and see how pure devotees relish in serving Krishna and start following their instructions to serve devotees of Krishna. Krishna will format our sub-conscious mind memory stack once he sees our endeavour to follow His and His devotees instructions.
- Your Servant
Hare Krishna Prabhu ji,
For one who has conquered the mind, the Supersoul is already reached, for he has attained tranquillity. To such a man happiness and distress, heat and cold, honor and dishonor are all the same. ( BG 6.7)
the devotee of the Lord is unaffected by the dualities of material existence, namely distress and happiness, cold and heat, etc. This state is practical samādhi, or absorption in the Supreme.( purport 6.7 BG)
O scion of Bharata, O conqueror of the foe, all living entities are born into delusion, bewildered by dualities arisen from desire and hate. (BG7.27)
Dualities araise in the uncontrolled mind!!!! Be it sadness or happiness, cold or heat., to do or not to do.. I like this I don't like this.. I love this I hate this. these type of dualities are araising in mind. Mind which is running after senses.
One must understand one simple fact that.. If there is darkness there is sunlight also. this is also duality. How can you anyone appreciate sunlight if her or she has not experiences what is darkness?
similarly if one experiences sadness and pain.. they will appreciate happiness and pleasure. These experiences are all araising because of senses. and senses which are under the controlled of untamed mind.
Have you seen a yogi..? Yogi sits under a tree in samadhi state.. be is raining or in harsh winter or scorching heat he is not feeling anything. His mind is totally under control. Senses are working It doens't mean the Yogi's senses are imperfect..or diseased .. It means that yogi is able to experience all the sadness, pain, pleasure heat cold. but he is not reacting to anything.
Mind is the cause of all misery!!!! if the mind is under control then whatever be the cicumstances one can be stable and maintain inner calmness.
This individual soul is unbreakable and insoluble, and can be neither burned nor dried. He is everlasting, all-pervading, unchangeable, immovable and eternally the same. ( BG 2.24)
The soul is eternally same. It is not be confused with mind. Mind is made up of material thing. But soul is spiritual.
BG 7.4: Earth, water, fire, air, space, mind, intellect, and ego—these are eight components of My material energy.( BG 7.4).
EGo is ahankaar. It is also material.
Senses are controlled by Mind.. Mind is under the control of Intellect.
Intellect's function is discrimination which is good which is bad!!!
Intellect tells the mind hey.. Mind. take right decision don't go to movies.. Mind will direct senses... NO NO to movies come lets go to temple.
Intellect is under the control of EGO or ahankaar.
The ego is the main culprit. Ego is false ego ( jhoota abhimamaan) thinks it is seperate from Lord. This false ego makes the intellect and mind biwildered.
Now how does this work. Let me give you an example
One very rich person now starts thinking he is king of the universe. he is minting money employees so many people under him. started to feel he is great. It is fine untill this man starts to feel he is too high about himself and starts to even question existence of God and says... I am only God. This is super high false ego ..At this point this false ego bewilders the intellect to make wrong decision. In this drunken state of intoxication of wealth he will start insulting illtreating people looking at them like some ants. now he take all wrong decisions only runs after sense enjoyments. He thinks there is nothing in this world that money can't achieve spends lavishly on sense gratification , he is running after everything that gives him temporary pleasure. This person thinking he is only God. he becomes atheist and because he running after sensual pleasures his mind is untamed and out of control.
Just like HirananyaKashyapa demon started to think he is God and started to terorrize all poor brahamins also to accept his supremacy and pray to him and build his own statues and made all public to fear him. False ego or ahankaar taken control over intellect and making him do all wrong things wrong judgements.
If atma is satchitanand then why we experience distress?
you are experiencins distress and happiness because of mind not because of soul or atma. that too mind which is unstable and untamed. whose master intellect is bewildered by false ego.
Hridaya is mann. It is the seat of Supereme Lord. Heart region ( not ur material heart) the soul is powered by Lord. Soul is manifesting consciouness thru out the body how? it is because of the powering given my LOrd.
Soul is eternal and sentiant!!!! because it is powered by Lord who is seated within the soul. Our body's chetana shakti is because of the presence of soul and soul is powered by Supersoul!!!!
When we die the soul leaves the body that is why organs and body parts are no longer sentiant. or having any sensation.
The soul being part of Supersoul it is having same qualities of Supersoul it is undisturbed by material happiness or sadness, or any dualities like heat or cold. It remains eternally same!!! ( BG 2.24)
I hope it is clear.
Hare Krishna Mataji,
Can you please confirm whether I have understood correctly or misunderstood it?
So soul is always the same that means that soul is always in state of spiritual Happiness i.e. anand but due to false ego, our intellect is bewildered and thus our mind. And hence our chetna (consciousness) falls to the level of mind and hence we no longer feel ourselves as soul and couldn't experience aanand! We are just experiencing sukh and dukh which is experienced by the mind! Hriday is the place where soul and supersoul resides! So currently I am experiencing things with my material mind and when ones false ego is diminished he comes to the level of soul and hence now he is experiencing the bliss(anand) and hence he is not affected by the experiences of the mind or material senses(samadhi) and hence he is very calm! Am I right? If no please correct me! And as this mind is material so does it enter dham with the soul?
Yes you rare right except the last line.
soul after quitting the material body. If the mind and false ego and intellect having still some desires they stick back to the soul itself and this soul along with subtle body ( mind+ intellect+ false ego) take up another body to fullfiill the desires.
If the soul is free from false ego and all desires. the soul is called free soul and this mukt atma is now getting some body to enter spiritual plane. That soul is getting a spiritual body instead of subtle body. and the spiritual body + free mukt soul now enter the Spritual abode of Lord.
Hare Krishna Mataji,
Thank you very much for your answers! Last question --> In spiritual world if we have only soul and spiritual body then how do we get spiritual desires of service to lord?
You will be having a Spiritual Body to serve Lord. Soul's eternal desire is to be with Lord. That is its real original position.
Hare Krishna Mataji,
Thank you mataji! I have understood that this spiritual desires come from soul and not material mind! Thanks mataji!