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  • I agree that (Yin & Yang) are present in all with the dommenent preference/Rassa being indacated by thr gender of the form of the body (goven) - assumed balance is important but not always equel in all.. And so it is said that in regard to our relationship with the GodHead "all are (yin)" & Krishna is the Supreme Yang. We are all product's of His compassion & Love. This is the generaly accepted Bhakti perspective!
  • first: if you are in a moving plan and there are no external feeds of any kind you will never know its moving or not.( read my previous answer again ).  

     second: vedas were never claimed by any human only shruti and shmriti do as they are personal remembrance of universal truth.

     third:regarding size sipiritual world is complete so it does have all parameters and more than the material world what is so surprising if  soul is said to have some size in a particular context it is also said that it occupy whole conscious filed ( read gita about chetra and chetra gaya--field , owner of the field and knower of both ).

    scriptures were only compiled by veda vyasa  into four parts as we know ( search the meaning of vyasa = compiler these names of rishies are not birth name they are given in honor of of an great spiritual acts ) vedas were always precent ( read about the first avatar of vishnu ).

     regarding the rig veda sloka you have quoted .... plzz read the slokas above it too,, it says before creation when there was no life force only he was there ,,, you don't want to acknowledge who was he but only want to quote a random sloka to imply what.

    ALSO YOU DID NOT ANSWER ARE YOU READY TO EXCEPT YOU ARE BODY AND WILL STOP TO EXSIST AFTER BODY IS FINISHED FIRST ANSWER THAT THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT OTHER BIG BIG SLOKAS.- HK  ( i appreciate your questioning but as its said some answer can only be understud by applying the instruction , reading vedas without following some instruction of scriptures is not appreciated ).

  • IT IS LIKE SITTING ON A MOVING FAN AND SAYING ITS STATIONARY. THE REFERENCE CAN'T DETECT ITS SELF,,

    WE CAN SEE THE THING BY FIRST ACKNOWLEDGING THE REFERENCE ,,, AND AS RIGHT KNOW WE ARE trying TO SEE SOUL BY PUTTING MATERIAL CREATION AS REFERENCE so WE CAN'T EXAMINE THE SPIRITUAL by material as reference

    so only true spiritual scriptures (VEDAS = NOT MAN WRITTEN ),ALSO TRUE TRANSLATION AND INSIGHT OF THEM BY GREAT DEVOTEES IS VALID.AND THOES can bridge THAT GAP OF MATERIAL AND SPIRITUAL.

    as sound or vani ,, also it is said material creation has happened by sound vibration. so scriptures are carrying some universal philosophy as sound vibration   that can bridge material and sipiritual  BY GIVING REMEMBERANCE TO JIVA (US) about its constitutional position.

     SOUL IS SPIRITUAL AND  OPTION OF REFERENCES ARE MAYA AND YOGAMAYA . ONLY BY SITUATING IN YOGAMAYA WE CAN TRULY EXAMINE OR  SEE SOUL AND ITS CHARACTERISTICS .

    # THIS IS MY UNDERSTANDING HOPE THIS HELPS SIR ---HARE KRISHNA.

    # DO WRITE IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER DOUBTS.

    #BUT SOME DOUBTS GET CLEARED BY ASKING AND OTHERS BY PRACTICING VAISHNAV THEOLOGY.--- HARI KRISHNA--SORRY FOR ANY offence. 

    • also we should do 1. purushrtha ( social duties),,2. sadhana bhakti (spiritual awaking) both can't neglect any as arjuna do had to perform his duty and that was his dharma too he had love for Krishna already from the begning.

      just a caution as wandering in endless doubts is also not good.

  • vim ji,,,(hare krsna).

    YOU said = how do we know soul exists ?

    my understanding is = one thing is sure body will not exist ,, so at that time what will be your and mine state of existence DO WE stop to exist ARE YOU READ EXCEPT THAT sir.

    i respect all type of endless questions ,,, but one thing is there ask question and find the answer don't leave it hanging SRILA PRABUPAD AND OTHER VAISHNAV ACHARYA HAVE WRITTEN SO MUCH READ  and examine it with openheart and mind .

  • Hare Krishna! Dantavat Pranam!

    In general, Gender is for the body and not for soul.  In Vaishnavite mode of worship, the lord is the enjoyer (Paramapurusha) and all Jivas are females (dependent on the lord).

    Bg 7.7 — O conqueror of wealth, there is no truth superior to Me. Everything rests upon Me, as pearls are strung on a thread.

    Bg 13.23 — Yet in this body there is another, a transcendental enjoyer, who is the Lord, the supreme proprietor, who exists as the overseer and permitter, and who is known as the Supersoul.

    Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu!

    Bg 7.7
    There is a common controversy over whether the Supreme Absolute Truth is personal or impersonal. As far as Bhagavad-gītā is concerned, the Absolute T…
    • hare krsna to all.

      lord enjoys many form of rasa and these are both feminine and masculine and infinite more other form of rasa

      so you cant say jivas are only capable of feminine aspect as a reference point of spiritual world . both are present in perfect harmony in service of lord , if gopies are there gopas are there too but not competing each other but only serving krishna.

      So if WE ARE TAKING GENDER As TOO SIDES SO THE TWO SIDES IN SIPIRITUAL WORLD CAN BE A. DEVOTEES(BHAKTA)  B.KRISHNA(BHAGVAN ). BHAKTA ARE DIFFERENT TASTES AND BHAGVAN IS TASTER and giving back love in reciprocation.

       ---- hare krsna

       

  • this is my understanding,

    as right now we as soul are not in our constitutional position so , gender as we think is a vial ( if we take spiritual world as reference point : (0,0)=spiritual world ).  

    every soul is individually related to Krishna in a unique relation , so relation as we know in this world is also vial ( if (0,0 =spiritual world ).

    but genders are still there in spiritual world but that is in true nature of our individual soul to serve lord better , in spiritual world body and soul are same so there is no external and internal.

    and things and individual are only dependent on Krishna fully and empowered by him to be situated in never ending eternal joy so in that state  gender and the differences become irrelevant.

    but the feminine quality and masculine quality both are present in complete harmony in relishing the bhakti rasa  mere bhakti is practice of devotion but bhakti rasa is reciprocal and spontaneous and never ending.

    so in a way we can say both feminine and masculine quality are there but THE TRUE GENDER IN SPIRITUAL WORLD AS TWO SIDES ARE (A) BHAKTA (DEVOTEES) , (B) BHAGVAN ( KRISHNA = ONE WHO ATTRACTS ALL : here all= devotees and one= krishna.)

    # i m not qualified enough but this is my understanding plzz forgive if any thing is over the top.---hare krishna.

  • Soul does not have a gender. 

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