What is reincarnation ^___^ ???

 

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Statistical Proof from Dr. Wambach


People who claim to have lived prior lives have always seemed fake to me. Toooften they claim to have been someone famous, like an Egyptian Pharaoh,Napoleon or Joan of Ark. Certainly, if reincarnation is real, it is notlimited to the rich and famous.

I was surprised that someone else had addressed this obvious flaw. Her name was Dr. Helen Wambach and she set about to prove how foolish the whole idea of reincarnation was by conducting a scientific investigation of her own in the 1960s.

Dr. Wambach questioned 1088 white, middle class subjects from California while they were under hypnosis. The subjects were asked to regress to a former life. If this was successful, they were told to remembereverything when they awoke from their hypnotic state.

Not satisfied to just ask who they were or when they lived, Dr. Wambach also made them describe their status, gender, race, clothing, footwear, utensils, tools they used, their money, housing and even the food theyate!

The subjects frequently reported viewing the former lives much like watching a movie. They said they could experience whatever the individual experienced in that particular time. They heard ancientlanguages but did not understand them. The full details of theirexperiences were recorded both during and after the sessions. Neverbefore had past life inquiries been that specific or involved such alarge population. The results of her 10 years of research surprisedeveryone.

The detailed reports were thoroughly investigated to see if they corresponded with historical facts. In all but 11 cases (less than 1%),the descriptions were totally accurate. Some of the results are asfollows:

  • 50.6 % of the past lives reported were male and 49.4 % were female -- this is exactly in accordance with biological fact.
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  • The reported class or status was exactly the same proportion as the estimates of historians of the specific period of the former life.

    In general, this was approximately 10% upper class, 20-35% from the middle class and the remaining 55-70% from the lower class. Although the proportion of middle class was higher around 1000 BC, the proportionlater dropped and increased again after 1700 AD.

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  • The recall by subjects of clothing, footwear, type of food and utensils used was better than that in popular history books. She found over and over again that her subjects knew better than most historians -- when she went to obscure experts her subjects were invariablycorrect.

    A subject who lived around 1000 B.C in Egypt described different types of clothing worn by the upper and lower classes. The upper classes wore either a half-length or full-length white cotton robe. The lower classeswore something like an exotic-looking type of pants that was wrappeddownwards from the waist. The researchers viewed historic records ofclothing worn during the respective periods and could therefore compareit to the descriptions of these subjects. The descriptions were found tobe correct.

 

  • Between 60-77% of the ancient population lived at or below the poverty level. They wore home made clothes and lived in simple, even primitive, abodes. The majority were farmers who labored every day in the fields. None of the hypnotized individuals recalled being a famous historical figure.Those who recalled a high social position seemed highly dissatisfiedwith their lives, as if it was a burden to be alive. Those who recalledbeing a farmer or a member of a primitive tribe appeared to be content.
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  • Their recollections were from different geographic areas and races during their prior life. Dr. Wambach divided them into several categories: Caucasians, Asians, Indians, Blacks and Middle Easterndescent.

    Around 2000 BC, only 20% of the subjects reported that they were Caucasians. They lived widely dispersed throughout what is now known as the Middle East, the Mediterranean, Europe and Central Asia (Kazakhstan,Uzbekistan, etc., called the central steppe during historical times).

  • Five subjects stated that they lived in Central Asia between 1000 and 2000 BC. They recalled living in tents, which was common to the migratingpopulation of that region. Amazingly, they found themselves to havewhite skin color and yellow or golden hair! At first, this didn't appearto be historically accurate as Asian people should have black hair anddarker skin. However, recent discoveries of mummified corpses [right] along the ancient Spice Route have shown that there were indeed light skinned and blond haired people!

     

  • Eating habits of people who lived around 500 B. C. were not that bad. Twenty percent of the subjects recalled that they ate poultry and sheep meat. However, between A.D. 25 to A.D. 1200, people's eating habits were rather poor. The subjects recalled that the food wastasteless. One young man said: "I will never bad-mouth McDonald's food".It is not surprising that those who recalled the best tasting food werethose who remembered a prior life in China.
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  • Among all the subjects, 62% died of old age and illness, 18% percent died violently during war, or some other manmade catastrophe and the remaining 20% died in accidents. Many of the prior lives ended during the two world wars, as well as civil wars in Asian countries.Thus, these people reincarnated shortly after they died. We will see more evidence for this in our next striking example.

    Surprisingly, Dr. Wambach found that 69% of the subjects who had died during the 1850's were Caucasians, while between 1900 and 1945, only 40% were Caucasian. It seems that transmigration of the different racesincreased after 1945. This is still not understood

Dr. Wambach went on to publish her findings in Reliving Past Lives: The Evidence Under Hypnosis and Life Before Life (1984). Although she began her work as a skeptic, she would later write,

"...Fantasy and genetic memory could not account for the patterns that emerged in the results. With the exception of 11 subjects, all descriptions of clothing, footwear, and utensils were consistent with historicalrecords..."

And in later interviews, she stated,

"I don't believe in reincarnation -- I know it!"

 

As we mentioned in the report, Dr. Wambach's results suggest that reincarnation usually happens shortly after death. In the next example we will see an amazing case that saw a reincarnated woman who was ableto be reunited with her husband and son after remembering her formerlife at the age of 4 years old!

This famous case was thoroughly studied by both believers and skeptics of reincarnation -- including the famous religious teacher, Mahatma Ghandhi. It happened in the 1930s in India...

 

The Story of Shanti Devi

On January 18,1902, a daughter was born to a family named Chaturbhuj, residents of Mathura, India. Her name was Lugdi. When Lugdi was 10, amarriage was arranged with a man named Kedarnath Chaube, a shopkeeper inthe same village. After puberty, Lugdi became pregnant for the firsttime but her child was stillborn following a Cesarean section. Duringher second pregnancy, Kedarnath took her to the government hospital atAgra, where a son was born, again through a Cesarean. There were somecomplications, however, and several days later, on October 4, Lugdi'scondition deteriorated and she died at 10 A.M.

One year ten months and seven days after Lugdi's death, on December 11, 1926, a beautiful daughter was born to Babu Rang Bahadur Mathur ofChirawala Mohulla, a small locality of Delhi. The girl was named Shanti Devi.Shanti was unusually quiet and hardly spoke until she was four yearsold. When she started talking, she surprised her family by tellingthem, "This is not my real home! I have a husband and a son in Mathura! Imust return to them!"

Shanti said that her husband was in Mathura where he owned a cloth shop and they had a son. She called herself Chaubine (Chaube's wife). The parents considered it a child's fantasy and took no notice. They gotworried, however, when she talked repeatedly about it and, over time,narrated a number of incidents connected with her life in Mathura withher husband.

On occasions at meals, Shanti would say, "In my house in Mathura, I ate different kinds of sweets." Sometimes when her mother was dressing her she would tell what type of dresses she used to wear. Curiously, shementioned three distinctive features about her husband: he was fair, hada big wart on his left cheek, and wore reading glasses. She alsomentioned that her husband's shop was located in front of Dwarkadhishtemple.

This strange talk continued. By this time Shanti was six-year-old, and her parents were perplexed and worried. Shanti even gave a detailedaccount of her death following childbirth. They consulted their familyphysician who was amazed how this little girl correctly described somany details of the complicated surgical procedures she claimed to haveendured.

As Shanti grew older, she insisted that her parents take her to Mathura. All this time, however, she never mentioned her husband's name. It is customary in India that wives do not speak the name of their husbands.Even when specifically asked, Shanti would only blush and say, "I willrecognize him, if I am taken there."

Her parents thought their daughter was mentally ill and tried everything to discourage her strange talk. But Shanti continued to talk about her"other family" and gave a specific address and more details about herprevious home, her husband and his family.

Eventually, a teacher in Ramjas High School Daryaganj in Delhi, told Shanti that if she told him her husband's name, he would take her to Mathura. Convinced, she whispered his name into his ear -- "KedarnathChaube." The teacher told her that he would arrange for the trip toMathura after he had made some inquiries. He wrote a letter to KedarnathChaube, detailing all that Shanti had said, and invited him to visitDelhi.

Amazingly, the teacher received a quick reply from Kedarnath, admitting that his young wife, Lugdi, had recently passed away. Even more amazing was that all the details Shanti had described about her old house andmembers of her previous family were all true!

Shanti's story spread all over India through the media. Many intellectuals became interested in it. When the famous teacher and pacifist, Mahatma Gandhi, heard about it, he personally talked to Shantiand then requested her to stay in his ashram. Gandhi instigated acommittee to investigate and report on the claims the little girl wasmaking. Soon a committee of 15 prominent people, including polticians,national leaders and members from the media was formed and theypersuaded Shanti's parents to allow her to accompany them Mathura.

Upon arriving at Mathura by train, Shanti -- on her own -- quickly lead them straight to her previous home. She correctly described what it had looked like years earlier -- before its recent refurbishing.

As a test, to mislead Shanti Devi, Kanjimal introduced Kedarnath as his elder brother. Shanti blushed and stood on one side. Someone asked why she was blushing in front of her husband's elder brother. Shanty said,"No, he is not my husband's brother. He is my husband himself." Then sheaddressed her mother, "Didn't I tell you that he is fair and he has awart on the left side cheek near his ear?"

She then asked her mother to prepare meals for the guests. When the mother asked what should she prepare, she said that he was fond ofstuffed potato paranthas and pumpkin-curry. Kedarnath was speechless, asthese were his favorite meals. He asked whether she could tell themanything "unusual" to help him accept that this was really his formerwife. Shanti replied, "Yes, there is a well in the courtyard of ourhouse, where I used to take my bath."

She was also able to relate extremely intimate information, such as extramarital affairs of family members that no one, outside the family, could possibly have known. But that wasn't enough to convincedKedarnath. He needed something really private, that only his dead wife would know.

Apparently, Lugdi had suffered from painful arthritis, making it difficult for her to move. This presented problems when the couple tried to have sex. But Lugdi had found a way to move that enabled her to haverelations with her husband. This was an extremely private matter, yetShanti was able to describe this in intimate detail. That convinced him!

Dr. Ian Stevenson, leading authority on reincarnation, said:

"I also interviewed Shanti Devi, her father, and other pertinent witnesses, including Kedarnath, the husband claimed in her previous life. My research indicates that she made at least 24 statements of hermemories that matched the verified facts."

If not proof, it is certainly strongly suggestive of reincarnation.

 

Hare Krishna~

Radhadasi

Statistical Proof from Dr. Wambach

http://www.viewzone.com/reincarnation.napoleon.gifPeople who claim to have lived prior lives have always seemed fake to me. Too often they claim to have been someone famous, like an Egyptian Pharaoh, Napoleon or Joan of Ark. Certainly, if reincarnation is real, it is not limited to the rich and famous.

I was surprised that someone else had addressed this obvious flaw. Her name was Dr. Helen Wambach and she set about to prove how foolish the whole idea of reincarnation was by conducting a scientific investigation of her own in the1960s.

Dr. Wambach questioned 1088 white, middle class subjects from California while they were under hypnosis. The subjects were asked to regress to a former life. If this was successful, they were told to remember everything when theyawoke from their hypnotic state.

Not satisfied to just ask who they were or when they lived, Dr. Wambach also made them describe their status, gender, race, clothing, footwear, utensils, tools they used, their money, housing and even the food they ate!

The subjects frequently reported viewing the former lives much like watching a movie. They said they could experience whatever the individual experienced in that particular time. They heard ancient languages but did not understandthem. The full details of their experiences were recorded both during andafter the sessions. Never before had past life inquiries been that specificor involved such a large population. The results of her 10 years of researchsurprised everyone.

The detailed reports were thoroughly investigated to see if they corresponded with historical facts. In all but 11 cases (less than 1%), the descriptions were totally accurate. Some of the results are as follows:

  • 50.6 % of the past lives reported were male and 49.4 % were female -- this is exactly in accordance with biological fact.
  • The reported class or status was exactly the same proportion as the estimates of historians of the specific period of the former life.

In general, this was approximately 10% upper class, 20-35% from the middle class and the remaining 55-70% from the lower class. Although the proportion of middle class was higher around 1000 BC, the proportion later dropped and increased again after 1700 AD.

  • The recall by subjects of clothing, footwear, type of food and utensils used was better than that in popular history books. She found over and over again that her subjects knew better than most historians -- when shewent to obscure experts her subjects were invariably correct.

A subject who lived around 1000 B.C in Egypt described different types of clothing worn by the upper and lower classes. The upper classes wore either a half-length or full-length white cotton robe. The lower classes wore something like an exotic-looking type of pants thatwas wrapped downwards from the waist. The researchers viewed historic recordsof clothing worn during the respective periods and could therefore compare itto the descriptions of these subjects. The descriptions were found to be correct.

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  • Between 60-77% of the ancient population lived at or below the poverty level. They wore home made clothes and lived in simple, even primitive, abodes. The majority were farmers who labored every day in the fields. Noneof the hypnotized individuals recalled being a famous historical figure.Those who recalled a high social position seemed highly dissatisfiedwith their lives, as if it was a burden to be alive. Those who recalledbeing a farmer or a member of a primitive tribe appeared to be content.
  • Their recollections were from different geographic areas and races during their prior life. Dr. Wambach divided them into several categories: Caucasians, Asians, Indians, Blacks and Middle Eastern descent.

Around 2000 BC, only 20% of the subjects reported that they were Caucasians. They lived widely dispersed throughout what is now known as the Middle East, the Mediterranean, Europe and Central Asia (Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, etc., called the central steppe duringhistorical times).

http://www.viewzone.com/reincarnation.mummies.gifFive subjects stated that they lived in Central Asia between 1000 and 2000 BC. They recalled living in tents, which was common to the migrating population of that region. Amazingly, they found themselves to have white skin color and yellow orgolden hair! At first, this didn't appear to be historically accurate asAsian people should have black hair and darker skin. However, recentdiscoveries of mummified corpses [right] along the ancientSpice Route have shown that there were indeed light skinned and blond hairedpeople!

  • Eating habits of people who lived around 500 B. C. were not that bad. Twenty percent of the subjects recalled that they ate poultry and sheep meat. However, between A.D. 25 to A.D. 1200, people's eating habits wererather poor. The subjects recalled that the food was tasteless. Oneyoung man said: "I will never bad-mouth McDonald's food". Itis not surprising that those who recalled the best tasting food werethose who remembered a prior life in China.
  • Among all the subjects, 62% died of old age and illness, 18% percent died violently during war, or some other manmade catastrophe and the remaining 20% died in accidents. Many of the prior lives ended duringthe two world wars, as well as civil wars in Asian countries. Thus, thesepeople reincarnated shortly after they died. We will see moreevidence for this in our next striking example.

Surprisingly, Dr. Wambach found that 69% of the subjects who had died during the 1850's were Caucasians, while between 1900 and 1945, only 40% were Caucasian. It seems that transmigration of the different races increased after 1945. This is still not understood

Dr. Wambach went on to publish her findings in Reliving Past Lives: The Evidence Under Hypnosis and Life Before Life (1984). Although she began her work as a skeptic, she would later write,

"...Fantasy and genetic memory could not account for the patterns that emerged in the results. With the exception of 11 subjects, all descriptions of clothing, footwear, and utensils were consistent with historical records..." 

And in later interviews, she stated,

"I don't believe in reincarnation -- I know it!" 

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  • Jai Shri Krishna..

     

    It's a pity no one thought of asking the subjects what type of entities they were in their previous lives.  It took Shanti Devi one year ten months and seven days to be born as a human after her death as Lugdi.  For some insects that would be centuries.  Since they related the questions to the form of human being.. I suppose their data is incomplete.  The only complete data is found in the Shastras.  For those who find the shastras hard to believe such as scientists, they will probably announce that all this test was done and then some Indian updated the Shastras..Lol

     

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